"March of the Penguins" film said to affirm monogamy and intelligent design

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March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder




By JONATHAN MILLER
NY Times

Published: September 13, 2005

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com, an opponent of abortion wrote that the movie "verified the beauty of life and the rightness of protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National Review urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for intelligent design."

The movie is "March of the Penguins," and of all the reactions it has evoked, perhaps the most surprising is its appeal to conservatives. They are hardly its only audience; the film is the second highest grossing documentary of all time, behind "Fahrenheit 9/11."

But conservative groups have turned its stirring depiction of the mating ordeals of emperor penguins into an unexpected battle anthem in the culture wars.

"March of the Penguins," the conservative film critic and radio host Michael Medved said in an interview, is "the motion picture this summer that most passionately affirms traditional norms like monogamy, sacrifice and child rearing."

Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since 'The Passion of the Christ.' This is 'The 'Passion of the Penguins.' "

In part, the movie's appeal to conservatives may lie in its soft-pedaling of topics like evolution and global warming. The filmmakers say they did not consciously avoid those topics - indeed, they say they are strong believers in evolutionary theory - but they add that they wanted to create a film that would reach as many people as possible.

"It's obvious that global warming has an impact on the reproduction of the penguins," Luc Jacquet, the director, told National Geographic Online. "But much of public opinion appears insensitive to the dangers of global warming. We have to find other ways to communicate to people about it, not just lecture them."

In a subsequent interview for this article, he added, "My intention was to tell the story in the most simple and profound way and to leave it open to any reading."

Likewise, the only allusion to evolution in "March of the Penguins" is a line near the beginning, intoned in the English-language version by the narrator, Morgan Freeman: "For millions of years they have made their home on the darkest, driest, windiest and coldest continent on earth. And they've done so pretty much alone."

The movie goes on to follow the penguins as they trek back and forth over 70 miles of ice to their breeding ground and huddle together to protect their eggs in temperatures that average 70 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.

To Andrew Coffin, writing in the widely circulated Christian publication World Magazine, that is a winning argument for the theory that life is too complex to have arisen through random selection.

"That any one of these eggs survives is a remarkable feat - and, some might suppose, a strong case for intelligent design," he wrote. "It's sad that acknowledgment of a creator is absent in the examination of such strange and wonderful animals. But it's also a gap easily filled by family discussion after the film."

Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review, told the young conservatives' gathering last month: "You have to check out 'March of the Penguins.' It is an amazing movie. And I have to say, penguins are the really ideal example of monogamy. These things - the dedication of these birds is just amazing."

Other religious conservatives have seized on the movie as a parable of steadfast faith. In Sidney, Ohio, Ben Hunt, a minister at the 153 House Churches Network, has coordinated trips to the local theater to see the film. (He describes the organization as a Christian denomination with nine churches spread over Ohio and Minnesota.)

"Some of the circumstances they experienced seemed to parallel those of Christians," he said of the penguins. "The penguin is falling behind, is like some Christians falling behind. The path changes every year, yet they find their way, is like the Holy Spirit."

Mr. Hunt has provided a form on the Web site lionsofgod.com that can be downloaded and taken to the film. "Please use the notebook, flashlight and pen provided," it says, "to write down what God speaks to you as He speaks it to you."
 
I just spent the day working at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago. I'm volunteering there one day a week, and they assigned me to work with invertebrate paleontology and paleobotany. Today I worked in paleobotany.

I got to hold in my hand a rock that was 2,500,000,000 years old, containing traces of the earliest life forms as simple black lines laid down in the limestone strata as they died. a few hundred million years later, you could find evidence of algae mats that covered the shallow inlets of the sea, laid down like agate now and turned to stone. I was shown a piece of Rhimiey Chert from Scotland that contained fossil remnants of the first plants that crept onto the land two billion years ago; little finger-sized things without leaves, just little green spikes, when nothing else lived on the land.

It went on and on, cabinet after cabinet of fossils, hundreds of millions of years of slow and painful evolution. Finally we got to the first vascular plants, plants that moved fluid around inside them in vessels, the first leaves, plants that reproduced through spores, then ferns, cycads, giant horsetails. The first true flowers appeared only 130 million years ago.

I was up there for about an hour and half, me and the curator of paleobotany.

I was going to ask him what he thought of this intelligent design stuff, but standing there surrounded by the visible evidence of the evolution of life, I didn't dare. It was all just so obvious.
 
Pure said:
March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder


At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National Review urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for intelligent design."

Erm....the penguins are only monogamous for one year...Anyone can do that.

The only thing that excites the religious people about this movie is the way these poor birds have to live. These birds live a cold hard existence. Trekking miles in the brutal cold, standing up and holding an egg balanced on their feet for months on end, eating snow for sustenance, huddled together to fight the cold bitter winter winds.

This is the kind of suffering a christian can really get into. One can only imagine what these birds did to evoke God's ire. Mayhap they broke the egg of knowledge once upon a time.
 
Couture said:
Erm....the penguins are only monogamous for one year...Anyone can do that.

The only thing that excites the religious people about this movie is the way these poor birds have to live. These birds live a cold hard existence. Trekking miles in the brutal cold, standing up and holding an egg balanced on their feet for months on end, eating snow for sustenance, huddled together to fight the cold bitter winter winds.

This is the kind of suffering a christian can really get into. One can only imagine what these birds did to evoke God's ire. Mayhap they broke the egg of knowledge once upon a time.


Maybe they selected Ellen DeGenerous to host the annual Emperor Emmy's.
 
LadyJeanne said:
Maybe they selected Ellen DeGenerous to host the annual Emperor Emmy's.

Good one! Did you know that you can blow beer out of your nose?
 
Pure said:
March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder
Mr. Hunt has provided a form on the Web site lionsofgod.com that can be downloaded and taken to the film. "Please use the notebook, flashlight and pen provided," it says, "to write down what God speaks to you as He speaks it to you."

God told me to turn off the goddamn flashlight and get my feet off the seat.
:)
 
Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since 'The Passion of the Christ.'

Thats frightening that people actually enjoyed The Passion of Christ. I watched it and felt guilty and ill. I am glad I wathed it, but once is enough and I can't imagine someone saying they've been wainting for another enjoyable movie like PoC to come out. :eek:
 
Dar~ said:
Thats frightening that people actually enjoyed The Passion of Christ. I watched it and felt guilty and ill. I am glad I wathed it, but once is enough and I can't imagine someone saying they've been wainting for another enjoyable movie like PoC to come out. :eek:

Wait till they discover Faces of Death
 
Couture said:
Wait till they discover Faces of Death
I don't know, evidently The Passion of Christ was the feel good movie of the new millenium to some people.

*shudder*
 
Couture said:
Erm....the penguins are only monogamous for one year...Anyone can do that.
Hehe... nice.

By the way, since when did the church have a monopoly on monogamy? I know plenty of monogamous liberal agnostics.
 
Hehe... too many fun directions... can't go all at once...
 
Conservative Groups Decry Scrambled Eggs

[Bumfuck, SC] AP Conservative groups have found enlightenment in the documentary "March of the Penguins", and have condemned scrambled eggs as a result. The condemnation has so far been limited to scrambled eggs, omlettes, quiches and souflees. Poached eggs, as well as fried and over-easy have escaped the proscription, on the grounds that those dishes "preserve the viability of the embryo" by not mangling it with a French whisk.

"Conceivably, the heat applied to a chicken embryo in the act of poaching or frying could lead to spontaneous chick development, in which case we would advocate returning the chick to its biological mother hen.", said Rev. Amply Unctious of the Church of the Divine Designer. "After a suitable period of parental bonding, the mother hen would return to her primary function of laying eggs, and the chick would become a whole fryer." This reinforcement of the "natural order" is evidence of God's design, says Rev. Unctious.

"Destroying the possibility of God's will manifesting itself in the fulsome development of a chicken debases those who would choose omlettes instead of sunny-side-up, as a true believer would order", according to Unctious.
 
OMFG! A right wing film? Will wonders never cease?

Someone actually applauds monogamy, mating for life? Travesty! Heretical!

Mab, gained new respect for you, enjoyable post.

Saw the film advertised have not had the opportunity to see it.


Monogamy, mating for life with one partner accomplishes nurturing of the young, not necessarily among animals, but among humans, as the maturation process takes many years and most animals are self sufficient quickly in life.

Not morals and ethics, just nature.

amicus
 
amicus said:
OMFG! A right wing film? Will wonders never cease?

Someone actually applauds monogamy, mating for life? Travesty! Heretical!

Mab, gained new respect for you, enjoyable post.

Saw the film advertised have not had the opportunity to see it.


Monogamy, mating for life with one partner accomplishes nurturing of the young, not necessarily among animals, but among humans, as the maturation process takes many years and most animals are self sufficient quickly in life.

Not morals and ethics, just nature.

amicus

You are getting ridiculous ami. You haven't even watched the movie and here you are -- bitching at all the liberals. I remember watching momma penguin leave the equivalent of a human 2 year old to fend for itself against a seagull in the movie.

I'm thinking "Do *something*"

Penguins are really stupid birds, but it was an interesting movie.
 
Nature/monogamy

Ami Monogamy, mating for life with one partner accomplishes nurturing of the young, not necessarily among animals, but among humans, as the maturation process takes many years and most animals are self sufficient quickly in life.

Not morals and ethics, just nature.


As has been pointed out, in nature, monogamy is NOT common, but where it exists, it's for generally for the time span of the young to mature or at least be able to have a reasonable chance of survival (adolescence).

I'd make that in the 10-15 yr range for humans.

BUT, most instance of human and 'natural' monogamy show the male, and sometimes the female getting 'extra' on the side, though the official story is that this "doesn't count", at least for the man.

There are evolutionary arguments as to the benefits of these extracurricular activities: High status, highly intelligent males like Amicus, can more broadly spread their valuable 'seed' (DNA) through consorting with concubines and prostitutes who, like Amicus, do not believe in abortion.
 
I wonder if the people who lauded this movie so highly for presenting the high moral standard of penguins are aware that emperor penguins quite often form homosexual bonds and in fact, two males are often observed rescuing an abandoned egg and raising it as their own chick?

Just a thought.

The Earl
 
TheEarl said:
I wonder if the people who lauded this movie so highly for presenting the high moral standard of penguins are aware that emperor penguins quite often form homosexual bonds and in fact, two males are often observed rescuing an abandoned egg and raising it as their own chick?

Just a thought.

The Earl

:heart:
 
TheEarl said:
I wonder if the people who lauded this movie so highly for presenting the high moral standard of penguins are aware that emperor penguins quite often form homosexual bonds and in fact, two males are often observed rescuing an abandoned egg and raising it as their own chick?

Just a thought

The Earl

Just an excellent thought.
 
TheEarl said:
I wonder if the people who lauded this movie so highly for presenting the high moral standard of penguins are aware that emperor penguins quite often form homosexual bonds and in fact, two males are often observed rescuing an abandoned egg and raising it as their own chick?

Just a thought.

The Earl
Huh. Neat. Didn't know that.


Anyway... this whole thing... seeing a documentary about penguins...
...these guys, for cryng ot loud....

http://www.snowcrest.net/cafemocha/images/Animated%20Penguins.gif

...and draw conclusions about human monogamy's ups or downs...? Whaaa? Someone must have smoked a bone the size of...well...a penguin. They're (all together now) a different spieces.
 
Queer penguins, eh?

Reaching pretty far to justify human homosexuality, I think.

Monogamous relationships among humans, fidelity and trust in a spouse, extends beyond the maturation period for the young. It provides generational consistency for a wider family involvement and the passing on of acquired skill and knowledge and even property through inheritance.

No one cares that some people choose to be gay. But to continue to foist that life style on others, to even pull aberrant examples from the animal world to defend that position is really, well, just silly.

amicus...
 
amicus said:
Monogamous relationships among humans, fidelity and trust in a spouse, extends beyond the maturation period for the young. It provides generational consistency for a wider family involvement and the passing on of acquired skill and knowledge and even property through inheritance.
Not arguing with you there. Monogamy and continuency works pretty well for the society we have built. But this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to to with penguins.
No one cares that some people choose to be gay. But to continue to foist that life style on others, to even pull aberrant examples from the animal world to defend that position is really, well, just silly.
As is pulling examples of ANY kind of examples from the animal to defend positions on human behaviour.

And for the record, you don't have to be afraid to catch the Gay germs. All that Earl and others pointed out with examples was that people advocating Ye Olde family values of heterosexual monogamy, by pointing at penguins as a good example, don't know what they're talking about. They're monogamous only when it's convenient, and on occation plays the other field.

Like, for instance, many primates. Including us.

But as I said, anyone wanting to draw parrallells between fat, diving tuxedo birds populating Antartica and hairless biped apes populating anything but Antartica, must have licked some serious jungle frog.
 
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