Male subs. . .

[EustaceMcGargle]

Do you find photos of women in bondage or being sexually abused distressing? I do, I understand a lot of people like that sort of image, but I do wish we could find a way to keep male dom and Fem dom photos and themes separate. That's why I've been a member for so long but only have a few posts.

After a bit, my nerves are on edge and I can't come back here without a long rest.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Do you find photos of women in bondage or being sexually abused distressing? I do, I understand a lot of people like that sort of image, but I do wish we could find a way to keep male dom and Fem dom photos and themes separate. That's why I've been a member for so long but only have a few posts.

After a bit, my nerves are on edge and I can't come back here without a long rest.

Your question explicitly - and incorrectly - ties together women who are bound, presumably voluntarily or even happily, with those sexually abused (rather than those enjoying rough sex, which is a completely different thing), thus portraying those situations in the same light as certain right-wing Bible-thumping (and perverting) crazies would portray a male being (voluntarily and/or happily) submissive.

Do you find pictures of *men* in bondage or enjoying being the object of rough sex distressing enough to drive you away for a rest? *I* don't particularly enjoy them, so I avoid threads primarily devoted to them, or skip over them when they're in a thread I otherwise enjoy. Can't you do the same, rather than let them put your nerves on edge and force you to leave Talk and the Café for a long rest?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Photos of anyone in bondage or being sexually abused-- hit me right in my happy place.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

Do you find photos of women in bondage or being sexually abused distressing? I do, I understand a lot of people like that sort of image, but I do wish we could find a way to keep male dom and Fem dom photos and themes separate. That's why I've been a member for so long but only have a few posts.

After a bit, my nerves are on edge and I can't come back here without a long rest.

Stay away from the Your Favorite BDSM Photos thread.

Otherwise you'll never come back.

 

[EustaceMcGargle]

Your question explicitly - and incorrectly - ties together women who are bound, presumably voluntarily or even happily, with those sexually abused (rather than those enjoying rough sex, which is a completely different thing), thus portraying those situations in the same light as certain right-wing Bible-thumping (and perverting) crazies would portray a male being (voluntarily and/or happily) submissive.

It doesn't matter if I am politically correct in your eyes or not. My religion or lack of it is none of your God damn business you prejudiced asshole.

Do you find pictures of *men* in bondage or enjoying being the object of rough sex distressing enough to drive you away for a rest? *I* don't particularly enjoy them, so I avoid threads primarily devoted to them, or skip over them when they're in a thread I otherwise enjoy. Can't you do the same, rather than let them put your nerves on edge and force you to leave Talk and the Café for a long rest?

No I don't find men in bondage distressing. I LIKE to see men in bondage, particularly at the hands of women. I'm not trying to prevent anyone from seeing ANYTHING they want to see. I am curious to know if male submissives find it distressing or disorienting when they see the gender or genders that inspire their need to submit in a submissive role.

I have reconsidered if I should have called you an asshole or not. But I'm still pretty sure you're an asshole.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6dlvrVMsk1qzkcgao1_500.jpg

Guess I'm an asshole too.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Eustace, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that you react
to seeing women submit by a feeling that "something is wrong with that picture?"

That is a good piece of self- observation on your part. I do wonder if other male subs react the same way. It's a bit fetish-y, perhaps. You see this thing the way you see it, and find any variance hard to process. Are you that way about other things? Non-sexual? Same sandwich for lunch every day, kinds of things?

I have reconsidered if I should have called you an asshole or not. But I'm still pretty sure you're an asshole.

he kinda isn't, really...

h Guess I'm an asshole too. :D[/QUOTE]Yeah, you are. I call non-consent.

 

[NomadLady]

Do you find photos of women in bondage or being sexually abused distressing? I do, I understand a lot of people like that sort of image, but I do wish we could find a way to keep male dom and Fem dom photos and themes separate. That's why I've been a member for so long but only have a few posts.

After a bit, my nerves are on edge and I can't come back here without a long rest.

I can't understand where you are getting the "sexually abused part" of your question. Pictures of women being dominated are no less different than pictures of men being dominated and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with abuse....

 

[DirtyPet]

I'm a switch so I have male subs but I also have a Dom and my subs have all become upset at the thought of their Mistress submitting..not sure if thats what you meant but thats what it made me think of.

 

[chy_girl]

*snip*
I have reconsidered if I should have called you an asshole or not. But I'm still pretty sure you're an asshole.

*dies laughing*
Yeah, not so much. Actually you'd be hard pressed to find a more non-dickDom PYL on the boards. He's always very nice to us poor, abused subbie-girls.

I'm a switch so I have male subs but I also have a Dom and my subs have all become upset at the thought of their Mistress submitting..not sure if thats what you meant but thats what it made me think of.

For me, it has to do with a sense of protection over my Mistress. The first time I ever saw her scene with our Sir it was very, very hard to not interfere. It still is on occasion. It takes a lot to remember that she likes a good beating as much as I do and that her pain is not of the bad variety.

Now on to business:

Do you find photos of women in bondage or being sexually abused distressing?
*snip*

I find the implication that my being under collar is tantamount to my being in a sexually abusive relationship offensive to an extreme. I've been sexually abused and it is NOTHING like the relationship I am now in.

And why is it non-abusive if the submissive is a male and abusive if it's a female? Are men somehow magically safe from any and all forms of abuse, sexual or otherwise?

 

[JMohegan]

There sure are a lot of straw men wandering around the boards these days.

I don't see a single person arguing that SM is non-abusive if the submissive is a male and abusive if it's a female. Jesus christ, people. Chill.

Do you find photos of women in bondage or being sexually abused distressing? I do, I understand a lot of people like that sort of image, but I do wish we could find a way to keep male dom and Fem dom photos and themes separate. That's why I've been a member for so long but only have a few posts.

After a bit, my nerves are on edge and I can't come back here without a long rest.

Welcome to the board.

I'm male and an M/f fan.

Distressing or disorienting are probably not the right words to describe my reaction to images depicting F/m bondage and SM, but they're close enough. I'd have absolutely no interest in visiting a gallery whose walls were only lined with those shots. And any thread here with CBT or Strap-on in the title is one that I'd just never open. So I do sort of see what you're saying.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Your question explicitly - and incorrectly - ties together women who are bound, presumably voluntarily or even happily, with those sexually abused (rather than those enjoying rough sex, which is a completely different thing), thus portraying those situations in the same light as certain right-wing Bible-thumping (and perverting) crazies would portray a male being (voluntarily and/or happily) submissive.

Do you find pictures of *men* in bondage or enjoying being the object of rough sex distressing enough to drive you away for a rest? *I* don't particularly enjoy them, so I avoid threads primarily devoted to them, or skip over them when they're in a thread I otherwise enjoy. Can't you do the same, rather than let them put your nerves on edge and force you to leave Talk and the Café for a long rest?

[Slightly rearranged to allow coherence in response]

It doesn't matter if I am politically correct in your eyes or not. My religion or lack of it is none of your God damn business you prejudiced asshole.

I have reconsidered if I should have called you an asshole or not. But I'm still pretty sure you're an asshole.

Please re-read my post (re-quoted above for ease of reading). I didn't comment at all on your religion or lack thereof, primarily because I have no knowledge of you in that regard. I simply made a statement that your question associated - and equated - women in bondage with women being sexually abused, and likened that "rough sex toward women = sexual abuse" association to the attitude that people like Fred Phelps would take toward a submissive male... that it's *wrong.*

After due consideration over most of the past six decades, I would have to agree with you that I am an asshole. Prejudiced? Sorry, not so much. I am perfectly happy to let you have the feelings you have, perform whatever sexual or asexual acts your heart desires (and you can find consenting partner(s) for), and believe whatever you wish to believe, whether that be in the realm of theology or cosmology.

I was, however:

• subtly trying to suggest that perhaps your question could have been phrased a little differently to not liken consensual rough sex to sexual abuse;
• asking if finding pictures of men in bondage, or men in a submissive situation distressed you;
• and positing a way in which you might relieve that distress, as I relieve my (admittedly very minor) distress at seeing such.

See... I was kinda trying to get you to hang around more, since you've actually started a thread or two that's gained a following, and while I don't travel quite the same road you do (to clarify that: I'm a male heterosexual Sadist with some Dominant tendencies, while from what I've read of your posts I'd believe that you're primarily a male heterosexual submissive), anyone who can keep discussion going here is welcome from my point of view, if they can do it without being too trollish.

No I don't find men in bondage distressing. I LIKE to see men in bondage, particularly at the hands of women. I'm not trying to prevent anyone from seeing ANYTHING they want to see. I am curious to know if male submissives find it distressing or disorienting when they see the gender or genders that inspire their need to submit in a submissive role.

Ahhh... Okay! THAT statement of your inquiry makes it much clearer to me. Thank you! (NO sarcasm intended - I really wasn't quite sure what the entire thrust of your original post was. This clarifies it for me substantially.)

 

[Sir_Winston54]

There sure are a lot of straw men wandering around the boards these days.

I don't see a single person arguing that SM is non-abusive if the submissive is a male and abusive if it's a female. Jesus christ, people. Chill.

Welcome to the board.

I'm male and an M/f fan.

Distressing or disorienting are probably not the right words to describe my reaction to images depicting F/m bondage and SM, but they're close enough. I'd have absolutely no interest in visiting a gallery whose walls were only lined with those shots. And any thread here with CBT or Strap-on in the title is one that I'd just never open. So I do sort of see what you're saying.

You're so damn ... reasonable! Damn you, JM!



Bwahahahaha!

 

[CutieMouse]

Not a male, nor a male submissive, but I can sort of bend my mind around tp see the concept... it is a smidge disorienting/confusing to me to look at men in bondage - rock on with your bad self and all that ; it's simply not how my brain is wired. My solution is like JM's - I simply avoid threads/subjects that are likely to evoke that response or contain things I know I won't be interested in (such as male bondage, CBT, etc).

Having said that - dude. You've been a member since October '09, and female bondage pictures have been so distressing you've taken breaks from the site? Are you participating in a different BDSM Forum than myself? Because I've been around for 6 years now, and 97% of what I see around here are lots and lot of words on a screen, not ginormous in your face female bondage pictures [especially if one has signatures and/or avatars turned off].

 

[JMohegan]

You're so damn ... reasonable! Damn you, JM!Ha!



Bwahahahaha!

Ha!

Not a male, nor a male submissive, but I can sort of bend my mind around tp see the concept... it is a smidge disorienting/confusing to me to look at men in bondage - rock on with your bad self and all that ; it's simply not how my brain is wired. My solution is like JM's - I simply avoid threads/subjects that are likely to evoke that response or contain things I know I won't be interested in (such as male bondage, CBT, etc).

Having said that - dude. You've been a member since October '09, and female bondage pictures have been so distressing you've taken breaks from the site? Are you participating in a different BDSM Forum than myself? Because I've been around for 6 years now, and 97% of what I see around here are lots and lot of words on a screen, not ginormous in your face female bondage pictures [especially if one has signatures and/or avatars turned off].

He did mention photos and themes in the opening post.

Honestly, if this board were as F/m dominated as it is M/f dominated I don't think I'd visit.

Well, maybe for an occasional dose of Netzach.

 

[Homburg]

Photos of anyone in bondage or being sexually abused-- hit me right in my happy place.

This is more in line with where I am. I'm het, but what I dig is the power. I've found erotic beauty in M/f, F/m, F/f, and, yes, M/m. It's the portrayal of power that I dig, and the right emotional vibe in a photo will interest me regardless of the actual participants.

Then again, I tend to look on photos of that sort from an erotic standpoint, not wank material, so maybe my perspective is different. Power is my thing, not male power or female powerlessness. Just power.

And to poke at some of the Mdoms here, who among us hasn't enjoyed Netzach's photos? She's done some brilliant stuff, and I know I've certainly dug it.

 

[JMohegan]

And to poke at some of the Mdoms here, who among us hasn't enjoyed Netzach's photos? She's done some brilliant stuff, and I know I've certainly dug it.

Never seen her in an SM shot, have you?

In her solo pics, my brain translates the image into something she's not. I can't help it; it just does. I'm already on record noting how much this fucks with my head.

 

[Stella_Omega]

This is more in line with where I am. I'm het, but what I dig is the power. I've found erotic beauty in M/f, F/m, F/f, and, yes, M/m. It's the portrayal of power that I dig, and the right emotional vibe in a photo will interest me regardless of the actual participants.

Then again, I tend to look on photos of that sort from an erotic standpoint, not wank material, so maybe my perspective is different. Power is my thing, not male power or female powerlessness. Just power.

And to poke at some of the Mdoms here, who among us hasn't enjoyed Netzach's photos? She's done some brilliant stuff, and I know I've certainly dug it.

You're kind of a cool dude, Homburg.

 

[NomadLady]

You're kind of a cool dude, Homburg.

Ditto that thought Stella...So is JM.

 

[Herefornow]

I'm a switch so I have male subs but I also have a Dom and my subs have all become upset at the thought of their Mistress submitting..not sure if thats what you meant but thats what it made me think of.

I once submitted to a Domme who in turn submitted to a Dom. She explained to me that it made her understand her submissives better if She experienced submission. I believe that most Dominants are not strong enough to allow themselves to feel submission to another.

 

[smotherman]

It doesn't matter if I am politically correct in your eyes or not. My religion or lack of it is none of your God damn business you prejudiced asshole.



No I don't find men in bondage distressing. I LIKE to see men in bondage, particularly at the hands of women. I'm not trying to prevent anyone from seeing ANYTHING they want to see. I am curious to know if male submissives find it distressing or disorienting when they see the gender or genders that inspire their need to submit in a submissive role.

I have reconsidered if I should have called you an asshole or not. But I'm still pretty sure you're an asshole.

Welcome to the world of BDSM. I'm a male submissive and I don't find it distressing because as much as we'd like every single woman on this planet to be dominant, That is not reality. It's people like you that show a lack of respect in the BDSM community. if a woman does choose to be submissive, so be it!

You sir are an asshole.

 

[JMohegan]

Your av is hilarious, smotherman. The irony is intentional - yes?

 

[DirtyPet]

I once submitted to a Domme who in turn submitted to a Dom. She explained to me that it made her understand her submissives better if She experienced submission. I believe that most Dominants are not strong enough to allow themselves to feel submission to another.

I have to admit that when my boyfriend at the time asked me to sub for him..my first thought was.."I'm not weak"..but through ALOT of discussions with submissives and the wonderful people here that share so much of their experiences in this lifestyle..I learned that being submissive is Not a weakness..Oddly I have not met a Dom that once he found out I was a Dominant submissive..did not ask to be Dommed..and I am in NO way saying ALL Doms do this..just all the ones I have been with.

 

[intothewoods]

EM - I'm an f-sub, but I don't find bondage pics featuring men as the bottom disturbing. At any rate, I don't think there's anything wrong with the question, and I agree with Stella on the self-observation.

I personally would welcome more diversity around here.

 

[Herefornow]

I have to admit that when my boyfriend at the time asked me to sub for him..my first thought was.."I'm not weak"..but through ALOT of discussions with submissives and the wonderful people here that share so much of their experiences in this lifestyle..I learned that being submissive is Not a weakness..Oddly I have not met a Dom that once he found out I was a Dominant submissive..did not ask to be Dommed..and I am in NO way saying ALL Doms do this..just all the ones I have been with.

I agree totally weakness does not necessarily equal submissiveness or vice versa. That's interesting that the Dom's wanted you to Dom them that easily. If you had to truly describe yourself - are you Dominant or submissive?