Male Fisting

[Bobbiebi]

I'm at 45 year old male, and have been interested in the art of female to male fisting for some time.
I've experimented with a number of female friends moving from smallish vibrators to larger and larger strap-ons. I've taken 1 finger, then 2, then 3, then 4, then the thumb as well, but have yet to take the hole fist of any of them. I've used KY lubricant, Crisco and a few other things. I've been so so close.
I don't think its the length but the width that hampers the ultimate fullfilment, as I 've taken a 10" strap-on ok.
In fact I've even looked for women with smaller and smaller hands, I've experimented with 'E' and hash to lower the inhibitions and relax, all to no avail.
Can anyone please provide advice on how to take the next big step. I enjoy the sensation, I enjoy the sub side of my personality when in this role but REALLY want to go 'all the way'

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

I'm at 45 year old male, and have been interested in the art of female to male fisting for some time.
I've experimented with a number of female friends moving from smallish vibrators to larger and larger strap-ons. I've taken 1 finger, then 2, then 3, then 4, then the thumb as well, but have yet to take the hole fist of any of them. I've used KY lubricant, Crisco and a few other things. I've been so so close.
I don't think its the length but the width that hampers the ultimate fullfilment, as I 've taken a 10" strap-on ok.
In fact I've even looked for women with smaller and smaller hands, I've experimented with 'E' and hash to lower the inhibitions and relax, all to no avail.
Can anyone please provide advice on how to take the next big step. I enjoy the sensation, I enjoy the sub side of my personality when in this role but REALLY want to go 'all the way'

While its not something I have any experience with at all, I've seen mention of it on Tristan Taormino's website. Why don't you have a look? http://www.puckerup.com
Her advice regarding all things anal has always been topnotch.
Good luck.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Personally, I think this is nuts... but to each his own.

I think you are on the right track. This is just going to take time I think. Unlike a woman's vagina, the anus can't be stretched as quickly. Not to mention, I think it's more dangerous to rush things in this area compared to the vagina. I mean, just look at how long it takes most women to be able to accept a fist. It's just going to take you longer is all. Practice makes perfect.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

PBW "Hey Mom, come look at this!"

 

[XtremelyConfusd]

Hi Bobbi,

This should be not too difficult to accomplish. I did it in a few days.

While the male and female pelvis are a bit different, the male pelvic bones determine (as in the female), in effect a maximum circumference/diameter.

A female person, as you know, can deliver a baby given 10 cm dilation. That's a diameter of 3.94 ins, or a circumference of 12.36 ins. It does not much matter if we are talking vagina or anus, though the anus would take more work. A male is, of course, often larger overall, taller than a female, but his birth/anal canal maximum is more limited ( with individual variations) to an object of maybe 10 ins in circumference. I think it's a pretty exceptional--maybe very hippy--male who could equal the 12+ of the average woman.

But the average male hand is a bit less than that 10 ins, and the average female hand may be only about 8 ins (I'm guessing). So the average female hand should be insertable into the average male, imo. (Haven't got too much experimental data, but many gay men have accomodated the _male_ hand, which is larger.)

First of all, I presume you are aware that the fist as such is not inserted, rather the fingertips and thumbtip are drawn together, like a duck's bill.

It's all a matter of measurement. In the case I'm familiar, the circumference of that hand, so held (and somewhat compressed with tape around), at the widest--around the knuckles and second thumb knuckle --was 9 1/2 ins; that's the target. But the hand can compress a bit more. Check the measurements of the hand that is going to go in.

Find 3 or 4 bottles with sloping neck, where the neck isn't too long. Soft drink or beer bottles, for example.

ADDED NOTE as per comments: It must be a strong bottle, like a beer bottle. and if not (smoothly) capped, very well plugged. Bottles permit a number of gradations; it might take a lot of shopping at 10-20 dollars each to acquire graduated butt plugs. Obviously you must not allow the bottle to go much past its midpoint. Flared bottom bottles, like the old coke bottles have advantages.

Needless to say, any cap that isn't rounded and smooth have to be removed. The point of the sloping neck is that it will gradually stretch whatever hole it's inserted into, up to the maximum diameter of the main part of the bottle. You don't want too short a sloping neck, either.

In this case, a standard beer bottle was found, that had a circumference of 8 1/2 ins. That was close enough to the target. Its end could be plugged with a folded Kleenex.
One could not insert it to its widest, however.

So one works up to it.

First you should choose the largest bottle you can hold without too much discomfort. Let's say a smaller bottle of circumference 6 1/2 ins. That is insertable pretty easily.

Then you work your way up. 7 might produce discomfort, so--once lubed with something heavy like vaseline--gently force it or have it forced till in, then leave it for a few minutes; the sphincters have to stretch.

ADDED NOTE: Don't cop a jar of vaseline or crisco from the club house, or share. Invest in your own. It's unfornately the case that all the usual watersoluble lubricants, --astroglide, ky etc just don't do the job and disappear readily (washed in the fluids). I'm willing to be shown an example, however, by some of the
'experts' who do not say anything by the way about their first hand knowledge.

Remove and do it again. Everything stretches if it's done slowly. It may take a fair amount of force, however, but do not ignore pain signals. There is some burning or discomfort but there shouldn't be sharp pains.

One way, is very carefully to squat and lower your weight onto the standing bottle. BUT you must not use a bottle with too long a neck or whose total height is going to harm you, if it went in. And it doesn't bend. Let's say 7 in max.

Anyway, over a few days, you gradually increase the size. Your anus will stretch--you don't want it to tear-- and the inner sphincters also. These are the real problem. If you had a proper plug that would not go all the way in, you could leave a large one in place for a few hours.

In the present case, the 8 1/2 in (circumference) beer bottle finally was inserted and could be left there for a few mins. It was pretty clear that was a maximum. The person inserting can feel that the bottle is against various pelvic bones on all sides. (This is equivalent to what a doctor determines as the maximum size of birth canal, and hence of baby's head that will pass.)

Once it was removed, the hand bunched, could be inserted; there's a 'window of opportunity' before everything starts tightening. In inserting the hand the person may have to experiment with different slight rotations. And pay attention to severe pain signals. But as you know, the key is to get that second thumb knuckle in, and past the sphincters. If the bottle(s) done its work, the insertion wont require a huge amount of force.

Once the hand is in, of course there is not much to stop deeper insertion, say a good ways up the forearm, if the insertor can see/feel how to go past the rectum, towards the sigmoid colon.

Note, the enlarged passageway will tend to shrink over days and certainly weeks, if not used to the maximum. If you wait too long, it may again require a few days of stretching.

I hope this assists you. Keep us posted!

xc

POSTSCRIPT ADDED BASED on a visit to the site recommended by LarkSparrow

From Chris Ward "Fisting a Virgin"
http://www.winternet.com/~redright/ffactvirgin.htm

//Usually a first timer needs some kind of drugs, but this is not always the case. I usually recommend poppers at a minimum, and a bit of pot doesn't help//

I do not agree.

//Step three often involves convincing them that they should be using crisco rather than other forms of lube (which are simply not as slick). //

Please note, James G 5 and other 'experts' without experience.

// when the bottom gets to the point of widest stretch, but keeps failing, make him take a triple hit of poppers--this will usually do the trick.//

'Expert' Chris Ward is quite a druggy.... but this clearly indicates the level of pain he is inflicting (poppers briefly, but virtually eliminate pain sensations). Notice that Chris, though he says he has small hands, says not to take more than 15 minutes to warm up a 'virgin' ass. Iow, LS, he's giving you 15 mins to take in fully something almost the size of a standard beer bottle, say 8 ins around. How many poppers do you think _you'd_ need?

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I'm at 45 year old male, and have been interested in the art of female to male fisting for some time.
I've experimented with a number of female friends moving from smallish vibrators to larger and larger strap-ons. I've taken 1 finger, then 2, then 3, then 4, then the thumb as well, but have yet to take the hole fist of any of them. I've used KY lubricant, Crisco and a few other things. I've been so so close.
I don't think its the length but the width that hampers the ultimate fullfilment, as I 've taken a 10" strap-on ok.
In fact I've even looked for women with smaller and smaller hands, I've experimented with 'E' and hash to lower the inhibitions and relax, all to no avail.
Can anyone please provide advice on how to take the next big step. I enjoy the sensation, I enjoy the sub side of my personality when in this role but REALLY want to go 'all the way'

 

[slvjenn]

Wouldn't a plug help to keep it stretched out? I'd think that would be safer than a bottle and could likely be worn for longer.

 

[lark sparrow]

Handballing

 

[James G 5]

Re: Re: Male Fisting

Find 3 or 4 bottles with sloping neck, where the neck isn't too long. Soft drink or beer bottles, for example. Needless to say, any cap that isn't rounded and smooth have to be removed. The point of the sloping neck is that it will gradually stretch whatever hole it's inserted into, up to the maximum diameter of the main part of the bottle. You don't want too short a sloping neck, either.

In this case, a standard beer bottle was found, that had a circumference of 8 1/2 ins. That was close enough to the target. Its end could be plugged with a folded Kleenex.
One could not insert it to its widest, however.

Then you work your way up. 7 might produce discomfort, so--once lubed with something heavy like vaseline--gently force it or xc

2 comments- Bottles are VERY dangerous! Even plugging it up with tissues doesn't gaurantee that you won't end up vacuum-locking it in to the rectum
This is so common ER's keep special glass cutters for removing trapped bottles, but I don't think you want to make that trip
Also, the bottles CAN slip inside if grip on them is lost, at which point their shape makes them MUCH harder to remove
Butt plugs or anal dildos with flared bases are MUCH safer
There are even "inflatable" dildos with wide bases designed just to stretch out openings by inflating after insertion

Second, I've read in several places here AND on Tristan Taormino's website that Vaseline can be a poor choice for lube since it can leave residue that harbors bacteria for some time

Like I salways say....Play SAFE + play HAPPY!

 

[jon.hayworth]

Following on from James G 5s very pertinent comments on using bottles and their dangers.

DON'T USE THEM - but if you find the idea irresistable then make sure they are bottles made to withstand pressure. NOT standard Wine bottles!!!!!!!! - Champagne Bottles Maybe! Beer Bottles and Coca Cola Bottles are marginally safer.

BEST ANSWER BUY A RANGE OF BUTT-PLUGS

jon

 

[XtremelyConfusd]

Yes, a plug with a flared base, provided it was of the right size could be worn, though a half hour of stretching in a day does work.

One must certainly keep a grip on a bottle and not insert it much past its midpoint.

Wouldn't a plug help to keep it stretched out? I'd think that would be safer than a bottle and could likely be worn for longer.

 

[James G 5]

Corollary, if you REALLY wanna use bottles, get PLASTIC ones
That way they can't break in you <OUCH in a BAD way!>

Following on from James G 5s very pertinent comments on using bottles and their dangers.

DON'T USE THEM - but if you find the idea irresistable then make sure they are bottles made to withstand pressure. NOT standard Wine bottles!!!!!!!! - Champagne Bottles Maybe! Beer Bottles and Coca Cola Bottles are marginally safer.

BEST ANSWER BUY A RANGE OF BUTT-PLUGS

jon

 

[Marquis]

Just out of curiousity has anyone ever actually broken a bottle with their assholes? I didn't realize they were packing that kind of power.

 

[James G 5]

Just out of curiousity has anyone ever actually broken a bottle with their assholes? I didn't realize they were packing that kind of power.

There have been cases of someone smacking an inserted bottle (in vagina or anus) with their hand & causing the bottle to fracture
I work in the wine & liquor biz & I see a lot of bottles with flaws in the glass that break with almost no impact
I didn't mean just the clench of someone's ass would do it

 

[Pure]

James G 5 said,

Corollary, if you REALLY wanna use bottles, get PLASTIC ones
That way they can't break in you <OUCH in a BAD way!>

I agree plastic bottles would work, BUT these aren't solid/rigid, generally. If one filled it to the top with warm water, and tightly capped it, that would make it keep its diameter.

One would then have the problem of filing off all edges and rough spots on the cap, so that it wouldn't tear or abrade.

I've often seen plastic bottles of rubbing alcohol or peroxide, which, if emptied, are usuable; they are in the 2 1/2 to 3 ins diameter range.

I agree with XC that unless a 3 in diameter object--dildo, butt plut or whatever--will fit, an average male hand won't. To get your mistress's hand, you're likely going to have to take an object in the 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 range, unless she's pretty small in hand.

 

[EvilBrat74]

since your entrance is not the problem, you need to streach your inside a bit.

try filling up a condom with air till it is a little larger than a fist and place a small round object in it to help get it started in.A shooting marble or somethin.

with this inside you as you have sex, the anus will push it further inside you.streaching you slowly over time inside.

over time after you do this often as once a week, you should be able to access further inside.

hope this helps ya out.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Mmmmm, interesting topic.

Catalina

 

[canstretch]

soo . . . did it ever happen? I so want to experience this for real, but have taken the "hand" dildo by myself and that is 9 1/2 inches around the knuckles as the one post had mentioned earlier on. Crazy, crazy, crazy. The things I do to myself

 

[AvaAdore]

Re: Re: Male Fisting

A male is, of course, often larger overall, taller than a female, but his birth/anal canal maximum is more limited ( with individual variations) to an object of maybe 10 ins in circumference.
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gee, i dont know any males who give birth through their ass.

 

[Lloyd2004]

Re: Re: Re: Male Fisting

gee, i dont know any males who give birth through their ass.

Some countries must have very strange males,

 

[Pure]

the point is, wise acres, that to get very far up the male ass you have to pass through the 'birth canal' portion of the pelvis; the central 'hole' in the middle of the pelvis--sacrum at the back, pubic arch at the front.