Main threat to human rights

[REDWAVE]

The U.S. government is the main threat to human rights today, both here and abroad. Here, the arbitrary roundup and detention of thousands of immigrants, the arrests of hundreds of peaceful protesters in D.C. last Sept. 27, the recently enacted police state measures (the "Patriot" Act and the "Homeland Security" Act), and the detention without charges even of U.S. citizens, have revealed how utterly false and hollow the U.S.'s claim to be the "land of the free" truly is. Abroad, the U.S. is allied with a number of slimy dictatorships in its war of terror: Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Colombia (where "Death Squad" Uribe is waging a vicious war against his own people) are just a few. Only the American people can halt this drive toward fascism, and spare the entire world a dark, ominous future.

 

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[modest mouse]

Was China somehow omitted?

Its fashinable to say that the US is the worlds leading violator of Human Rights but there is a rub. The US is the most exposed country in the world. Do you think all the human rights abuses in other regions are ont eh news?

REDWAVE, this thread is lemming-like, even by your standards.

 

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[Problem Child]

REDWAVE is the main threat to common sense at Literotica.

 

[REDWAVE]

Remiss

In my initial post, I forgot to mention the infamous gulag at Guantanamo Bay, where hundreds of detainees are being held under barbaric conditions, in violation both of international law and their fundamental human rights . . .

That was remiss of me.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

barbaric. LOL

 

[Problem Child]

I think the biggest threat to my waistline is Little Caesar's Pizza.

Pizza-Pizza

*burp*

 

[REDWAVE]

Historical analogy

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

 

[Lost Cause]

Main Threat.....

Redistribution of wealth by the government, and insurance companies profits codified into public law, ie..seatbelts, helmets.

 

[427cobra]

Re: Historical analogy

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

Ok then, let's play name that tune!

 

[Rodney King]

Red, could you take care of this problem for us? The rest of us are busy with something called "Life" right at this moment. Thank you in advance!

 

[miles]

The U.S. government is the main threat to human rights today, both here and abroad.


I think the people living in North Korea might disagree.

 

[Don K Dyck]

Re: Historical analogy

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

Hi Redwave . . . on Oz ABC Radio the American Correspondent, Alistair Cooke, did a good article today noting the Office of Public Information was given a $US150 million budget to spy on American citizens. And the Head of OPI is none other than that protector of public morality, Admiral poindexter, the amn who took the rap for President Ronald Reagan when Reagan knew about the Iran scandal and funding of Contras in Nicuragua . . . isn't it nice how the Republican party looks after its own after all these years . . .

The Office of Public Information was snuck onto the U$ Patriot Bill and Home Defense Bill agenda without too much notice or comment from either Congress or the Senate, and permits government spying on American citizens . . . just like Stalin in USSR and HItler in Nazi Germany . . . no doubt about it, the U$ Fourth Reich is upon us . . .

 

[HeavyStick]

Re: Re: Historical analogy

the U$ Fourth Reich is upon us . . .

When did the US have it's first three Reichs?

 

[miles]

Re: Re: Re: Historical analogy

When did the US have it's first three Reichs?

They have different history books in Asstralia.

 

[HeavyStick]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Historical analogy

They have different history books in Asstralia.

TY miles, I wasn't expecting an answer from an intelligent person.

 

[KeithO20]

The U.S. government did NOT sign any bill to allow the spying on ordinary U.S. citizens. What the liberal slanted media LOVES to leave out is that for these powers to be put to use there has to be suspicion of terrorist activites or links tied to the person. And to say that is wrong is just ludacris. If we actually have reason to think someone is a potential terrorist threat to this country that persons "civil rights" sure as hell must go out the window. And in my opinion asking a suspected terrorists family questions and getting his finger prints and bringing up his credit card transactions is quite a fair price to pay for increasing our safety. That might just be me though.

 

[miles]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Historical analogy

TY miles, I wasn't expecting an answer from an intelligent person.

If you were Don, would you answer our questions?

 

[REDWAVE]

Redistribution of wealth

There has been an enormous redistribution of wealth, from the working class and the poor to the rich, in the U.S. in recent years. The highest marginal income tax rate used to be 90%; now it's only 38%. Social programs which benefitted the poor have been slashed. Unions have been busted down from 40% to 9% of the workforce. The filthy rich have been made much richer, the working class has been impoverished, and the poor have been rendered destitute. A massive increase in repression has been needed to keep the lid on a society in which inequality of wealth and income is rampant and all-pervasive.

 

[miles]

Re: Redistribution of wealth

There has been an enormous redistribution of wealth, from the working class and the poor to the rich, in the U.S. in recent years.

You are consistently full of shit. You live in Bizarro world, dude.

 

[Ham Murabi]

Re: Redistribution of wealth

There has been an enormous redistribution of wealth, from the working class and the poor to the rich, in the U.S. in recent years. The highest marginal income tax rate used to be 90%; now it's only 38%. Social programs which benefitted the poor have been slashed. Unions have been busted down from 40% to 9% of the workforce. The filthy rich have been made much richer, the working class has been impoverished, and the poor have been rendered destitute. A massive increase in repression has been needed to keep the lid on a society in which inequality of wealth and income is rampant and all-pervasive.

More misinformation from the master, Redrave himself. Redistribution is enhanced by high tax rates, not lower rates. People are not greedy for wanting to keep more of what they earn.
Name a social program that has been slashed.
Union membership is decreasing because, increasingly, people find they don't need unions.
The "filthy" rich have been given the opportunity to invest more of their money due to tax cuts. That does the economy a hell of a lot more good that having the government confiscate 90 percent of it and throw it down so black, unproductive hole.

 

[p_p_man]

If we actually have reason to think someone is a potential terrorist threat to this country that persons "civil rights" sure as hell must go out the window.

Yeah sure...

Dear Anti-terrorist Group,

My next door neighbour has visitors all hours of the day and night. He sports a Saddam style moustache and a Fidel type uniform. His accent is broken and sounds Chinese to me although he doesn't have slant eyes. He doesn't mix with his neighbours apart from one time last year when he held a 'Peace Today' barbecue which hardly anyone went to.

He also hasn't returned my lawnmower he borrowed yesterday.

To my mind this makes him untrustworthy and anyway he looks shifty...

I think he may be mixed up with terrorism...

Yours sincerely

ppman

 

[Don K Dyck]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Historical analogy

TY miles, I wasn't expecting an answer from an intelligent person.

. . . and you didn't get one either . . .

The First and Second Reich were German, from high school history, the Bismarck period then the Weimar Republic. The Third Reich was the Nazis "thousand years of peace" funded by five American banks and a whole lot of other Europeans, including the Chamberlain family . . . (he of Munich "Peace in our Time" ignomy) . . . the Fourth Reich is the current Dubyah Shrub Administration that has prostituted the office of President for the benefit of principally U$ multinational corporations . . . the title Fourth Reich in the U$ is too long to worry about . . .

I will try to find a link to the Cooke article . . .

I agree with your analysis Redwave . . . the next revolution in America would be the Third Revolution, coming after the (Second) 60s anti-Vietnam Revoluiton against killing university students on campus (Kent State University) and mass conscription to produce unprecedented profits for the NE military-industrial complex.

However, I think we will see the development of private "armies"rather than a general "revolution" in the Marxist sense . . . Lenin was successful in Russia because he had the backing of the Danish Kuehn Loeb Bank and a group of influential business people who wanted the war to end . . . the 6 million pounds sterling that the bank put up was very useful . . . as was the passage across Germany in the sealed train, organised by the business people with the Kaiser . . .

In America, there is likely to be a return to the "Range Cowboy" scenario so popular in Westerns . . . you know, the big, bad boss with the gang of hired hoods to do all the dirty work killing off the small settlers with their sheep . . . that would fit the Texas image . . .