Magnitude 9 Shake-up in Network & Cable News...

[amicus]

Because of my former profession, radio and television news and commentary; I am a confirmed; ‘news junky’, and thas the truth!(Add a ‘laugh-in’ Edith Ann Raspberry for effect)

Even before television remote controls, it was difficult watching all three network news channel for the six O’clock news and there was no TIVO.

I worshipped CNN when 24 hour a day news was created.

Fox news was a late comer and it took a while to realize that CNN did not deliver cutting edge news or commentary any more.

I never listened to Talk radio, and still don’t, I did talk radio and did not want to be influenced by other performers. This goes back before most of you youngin’s drew first breath.

When a Network News Anchorman today admitted he was not aware of the current notoriety of ACORN, a Community Organizer group with very close ties to the incumbent President since before he was an elected official; I felt the earth move.

Just as Print on Demand POD publishing has staggered the traditional giants of the publishing world, so too have internet social sites, Myspace, Facebook, the entire Blogosphere basically made obsolete traditional Network news sources.

I am still a News junky. Even my kids call to ask what is going on with this and that and behind the scenes.

Just when did ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC & CNN become conveyor belts for left of center interpretation of the News?

Was it a policy decision in the upper echelons of Fox Broadcasting to fill the void or provide opposing views?

I know Faux News is the cable news channel you love to hate, but y’all slip up now and then and expose that you do, in fact, watch and listen.

The ACORN scandal disclosures are a point in fact; Network News is not even aware of the issue…CNN is a distant second to Fox Mulder, ah, I mean News…oops…

I don’t even like the X Files…but the earthshaking bit started to happen with Czar Van Johnson; it was Fox news that brought about his resignation.

Now the ongoing ACORN investigative journalism, ala Dan Rather, 60 Minutes & Jeraldo Rivera, (can’t stand that man) is having consequences in the United States Congress with funding for ACORN being stopped and calls for a full investigation by members of Congress.

All brought about, exclusively, by Fox News. Go figure.

Now I really don’t care if you appreciate my opinions or not, but this ACORN scandal reaches all the way to the White House and this, folks, is gonna be a BIG thing in American History.

Don’t say I didn’t tell you so.

Amicus

Ps: By the way, Slyc, ya gonna watch Colony? Comes on in about ten minutes for the late show....

edited to add: http://amicusfiles.ning.com/profiles/blogs/magnitude-9-shakeup-in-network

Perhaps a little wider audience than the AH...or not...feel free to offer commentary...

edited yet again to add: http://biggovernment.com/

All your ever wanted to know, hear and see about the current ACORN expose'.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

The media has dummed down in the last 30 years. At their best, in the 20s, they were ambulance chasers and invented the news (Mencken and Kenneth Roberts confirmed it). Today most of them are BRECK GIRLS with Rolodex's full of Usual Suspects.

 

[DesertPirate]

Funny thing is that there are over 100 organizations run out of a single house in New Orleans, ACORN and the SEIU are just 2 of them. It really is just a money laundering scheme with our tax dollars providing the cash.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Ami,
Back in the day when I was a child, Walter Cronkite was the "most trusted man in America." I wouldn't go that far, but he did present the news in a way that is not done any longer.

When I was young all the TV anchors were veterins of the trenches, pounding the streets stearching out stories. Some even literally in the trenches in WW II along with the GI's. These people learned the news business from the ground up and had a true feel and understanding of world events. This showed in their presentations.

Now a pretty face and the ability to not mumble is all that's needed to be a news anchor. Too bad for us.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Network News is a joke. The likes of Nancy Grace yelling and squawking their stories which too many of the people seem to care about are a disgrace to the real news personages of the past.

Fox new isn't all that much better but at least they don't have some faux blond bimbo yelling at the top of her lungs about things no reasonable person care about.

I will stick with this list of "news" gathering...

WorldNetDaily
The Drudge Report
The WashingtonTimes
The New York Times
NewsMax
The Atlanta Journal - Constitution
The Wall StreetJournal
The Wall Street Journal Opinions
The Nando Times
The Washington Post
MSNBC
Reuters: Sean Hannity
Associated Press
Los Angeles Times
FoxNews
Sierra Times
Just Facts
The Smoking Gun
Jewish World Review (Columns!)
Insight Magazine
The Weekly Standard
Media Research Center
The Cato Institute (Libertarian)
The Heritage Foundation
The Chron

 

[Liar]

Fox new isn't all that much better but at least they don't have some faux blond bimbo yelling at the top of her lungs about things no reasonable person care about.

So Gretchen's a real blond, I gather?

Seriously though, the American television culture is a fascinationg thing. So iconic in it's expressions, the cable and network news especially. News television these days isn't about reporting the things that happen, except maybe in public service.

It's all about picking a base and pander to it to get loyal viewers. Loyal viewers are profitable viewers. You don't want to rock the boat and challenge their word view, they might reach for the remote.

Fox is distilled right wing and MSNBC is distilled left wing. Even their right winger (Joe Whateverough) is there to pander to the left wing audience. Moderate enough to be harmless, but right wing enough so that the audience can say "Hey, I'm being diverse. Look, there's our token Repub."

I disagree with Ami's assesment of CNN as a "conveyor belt for left of center interpretation". They're merely shamelessly commercial with the rest of them. If they were actually liberal, Lou Dobbs would for instance be out on his gnarly ass.

Truth is, they pander to their base too. It's just that their base is not the ideolouges, but the news-as-popcorn-and-cheap-drama junkies. It's news for people who like to think they care about what happens, but really don't.

The rest of them I don't see much of, so I wouldn't know.

 

[Handley_Page]

Network News is a joke. The likes of Nancy Grace yelling and squawking their stories which too many of the people seem to care about are a disgrace to the real news personages of the past.

Fox new isn't all that much better but at least they don't have some faux blond bimbo yelling at the top of her lungs about things no reasonable person care about.

I will stick with this list of "news" gathering...

WorldNetDaily
The Drudge Report
The WashingtonTimes
The New York Times
NewsMax
The Atlanta Journal - Constitution
The Wall StreetJournal
The Wall Street Journal Opinions
The Nando Times
The Washington Post
MSNBC
Reuters: Sean Hannity
Associated Press
Los Angeles Times
FoxNews
Sierra Times
Just Facts
The Smoking Gun
Jewish World Review (Columns!)
Insight Magazine
The Weekly Standard
Media Research Center
The Cato Institute (Libertarian)
The Heritage Foundation
The Chron

You forgot to check out the BBC world news service.
No blonde bimbos there, I think.

 

[SeaCat]

Ami,

I too suppose I'm a news junkie. My choices for the news are a bit different than yours but they work to give an interesting mix.

CNN Headline News in the mornings. (Robin Meade) They don't seem to be too slanted in their showing of the headlines. (They did show the ACORN Videos.)

In the evenings it's the local News Station. (Channel 12 out of West Palm Beach.) Gotta see how many people got shot during the day you know.

On the Internet it is a much larger mix of newspapers from around the country plus one from Germany.

Like I said, an interesting mix.

Cat

 

[amicus]

Perhaps an apology for my lack of clarity just in terms of how American's get their news and how it has changed.

Back in the days when I was, 'reading news', it was just that, rip & read from a teletype machines, mainly Associated Press and local news was usually by-lined by the major newspaper, in my case, the Honolulu Advertiser and then The Porland Oregonian.

The news was offered and accepted as accurate and non partisan and just when that began to change is a question I cannot answer.

Partisan lines hardened and I began to query National News sources as to their political positions on a list of issues. The answers I received, when any came at all, took on a partisan aura. I found that same bias in college also, being challenged in a political science class, 300 level, because I supported Barry Goldwater instead of LBJ.

Modern traditional media today reflects the same percentage of liberals to conservatives as does this forum. As I mentioned elsewhere, I have personally been asked to join other forums to provide the 'single' conservative voice in an all liberal setting.

Although the pot has gone back to 'simmer' from yesterdays 'boiling point', I suspect the schism in news media will take front and center stage as Network News is challenged to question and critique the current administration on an objective level rather that lending full support to every program that Congress is involved in.

Then again, I could be wrong, have been before...

Amicus

 

[Zeb_Carter]

You know I want really news, real facts. Not made up shit to appease those that think !E is a news channel.

Local news should be about local happenings that are new worthy. Any murders or house fires, etc. Not who was in town for what fucking concert...who gives a crap...you can get that on those idiotic rock/punk/rap music station on the radio.

National news should be about those events that affect our lives...Dolly Parton getting a boob reduction does not effect my life one iota. Nor does what senator slept with what bimbo...unless it effects the way he does his job...as long as he does what his constituents want who cares.

Religion has no place in politics nor in news. It is nothing but self-serving dogma of small, petty minds.

 

[amicus]

Zeb...may I suggest that innovation over the past twenty years or more, has led to an explosion of, 'niche' markets, not just in the world of information, but something as inconsequential as Breweries that cater to a small minority of consumers.

I don't fully understand the impact of the Blogosphere, that is way past my generation, but from what I hear, sites like Twitter, Ning, & Bing, are the waves of the future and it is only going to become more complex as time goes by.

I don't even bother with 'local news' anymore, if I want weather information, I have a desktopped site I just click on. And, I might add, modern music is cacophony to me and gives me a headache.

Just a few thoughts to share...

Amicus

 

[WRJames]

NBC Nightly News has been covering ACORN the past few nights.

What we have not seen in the US news at all (except, of course, World Focus) is the UN report on war crimes during the war in Gaza. That seems far more indicative of who is really controlling the US media.

 

[penandpaper]

Ami,
Back in the day when I was a child, Walter Cronkite was the "most trusted man in America." I wouldn't go that far, but he did present the news in a way that is not done any longer.

When I was young all the TV anchors were veterins of the trenches, pounding the streets stearching out stories. Some even literally in the trenches in WW II along with the GI's. These people learned the news business from the ground up and had a true feel and understanding of world events. This showed in their presentations.

Now a pretty face and the ability to not mumble is all that's needed to be a news anchor. Too bad for us.

I think Jenny, and many of you for that matter, are being quite unfair. Please explain how The News Hour with Jim Lehrer is biased? They always cover both sides, give both sides hard ass questions, and never seem to draw conclusions. If you feel that's biased, I'm afraid the biasses your viewing have already infected you.

 

[amicus]

]I think Jenny, and many of you for that matter, are being quite unfair. Please explain how The News Hour with Jim Lehrer is biased? They always cover both sides, give both sides hard ass questions, and never seem to draw conclusions. If you feel that's biased, I'm afraid the biasses your viewing have already infected you.[/I]

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P&P, are you being serious or making a joke, or maybe you really have never actually listened to what passes as Public Radio and Television news?

They never offer both sides of the news, they never present an unbiased view of anything, ever. To PBS protecting the environment against the encroachment of man has become a religion, they preach it in every newscast.

The News they do highlight is public service, like ACORN, the Peace Corps, any volunteer effort to clean up the evironment left by the nasty business and manufacturing community. They always applaud public, government projects and never the construction of a new mall or plant or factory. Their entire approach is biased, one in favor of public service, with the free market being the fall guy.

And International News, forget it. They count the dead Americans and show the destroyed buildings and the decimation of the civilian population. Everything is anti American. The Brits and Canucks have a better health system, Euro rail and mass transit is lauded over private transportation. State run power plants in Portugal and Spain will get lavish treatment while American Oil interests are trashed, day and after day.

Their view of entertainment? Hoighty Toity, for the ultra liberal, the opera, the classical stage, classical music, anti war folk hero's and music of the sixties and seventies. Always highlighting the counter-culture trends we all know as bohemean left wing and always pro gay and pro abortion.

Watch and listen objectively the next time you tune in and be honest in the fairness or objectivity of their coverage. Non existent. You will listen and watch for an entire year and never find a pro American commentary. Guaranteed.

Amicus

edited to add....I was in the new business for forty years; I know what unbiased reporting is.

 

[DeeZire]

NBC Nightly News has been covering ACORN the past few nights.

What we have not seen in the US news at all (except, of course, World Focus) is the UN report on war crimes during the war in Gaza. That seems far more indicative of who is really controlling the US media.

Apparently, NPR is not part of the US media, because that's where I heard about the UN report on the war crimes in Gaza.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112888846

 

[DeeZire]

I think Jenny, and many of you for that matter, are being quite unfair. Please explain how The News Hour with Jim Lehrer is biased? They always cover both sides, give both sides hard ass questions, and never seem to draw conclusions. If you feel that's biased, I'm afraid the biasses your viewing have already infected you.

Didn't you know everyone at PBS is a Communist? It's common knowledge, (in some circles.)

 

[WRJames]

Apparently, NPR is not part of the US media, because that's where I heard about the UN report on the war crimes in Gaza.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112888846

Well -- did the major news shows cover it at all? Not that I've seen.

 

[DeeZire]

Well -- did the major news shows cover it at all? Not that I've seen.

NPR features several major news shows. Unfortunately, most people are unaware of that fact.

I agree with your point on the American media. I'm just being sarcastic to practice my "assholiness" - you know, preparing for the next townhall meeting?

 

[amicus]

DeeZire...that report would be indicative and confirmational concerning my commentary on Public Broadcasting in general.

Palestinian terrorists aided by Hamas terrorists, using Iranian and Russian Rockets, daily bombard innocent Israeli citizens from the Gaza Strip, which if I recall, bowing to UN pressure, is part of the West Bank turned over to the Palestinians.

This is a 62 year old war of Arabs against Israeli's intended to anihilate Jews and you take the side of terrorists who bomb innocent civilians.

As the United States has treaties and alliances with the Israeli's, you therefore parrot PBS in their anti American rhetoric.

Thank you for underlining my contention that PBS is a left wing, anti American propaganda media outlet.

Amicus

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

Youre debating people dependent on psychotropic medication to help them walk across a room. DEE ZIRE probably looks like Fred Astaire, when he does the Haldol Shuffle into his bathroom.

 

[Liar]

What we have not seen in the US news at all (except, of course, World Focus) is the UN report on war crimes during the war in Gaza. That seems far more indicative of who is really controlling the US media.

Don't know about the TV news outlets, but I read about it today on the New York Times' web.

 

[DesertPirate]

People are not buying what the formerly "main stream media" are selling.
Could it be the obvious bias of TV?
Always Biased Coverage
Neverending Barak Coronation
Certified Barak Suckups

The New Yourk Times has been putting editorials on the front page as news for years, ie, anything by Ellen Goodman (admitted plagarist last fall).

They have no standards anymore and now they have no customers.

 

[Liar]

The New Yourk Times has been putting editorials on the front page as news for years, ie, anything by Ellen Goodman (admitted plagarist last fall).

They have no standards anymore and now they have no customers.

*shrug* I'm not read-up on the bias of the NYT. Most papers have an openly political lean, have they not? Their piece on the UN report gave fair voice to Israel's concern anyway.

 

[DesertPirate]

*shrug* I'm not read-up on the bias of the NYT. Most papers have an openly political lean, have they not? Their piece on the UN report gave fair voice to Israel's concern anyway.

The NYT is loosing money faster than GM, so is the Chicago Tribune, the papers in LA and Atlanta. These are the farthest left of them all.

 

[WRJames]

Well, I was watching HLN this morning. I suppose that counts as cable news, sorta. Anyway, ACORN was all over it. It's hard to resist showing that pretty blonde in those tiny outfits. The war crimes report didn't even make the crawl.

Now, whatever you may think of the merits of the report, the fact that it's out there is pretty big news. This is going to come before the Security Council. The US is going to be in a very compromised position. For that matter, so are Russia and China. All those countries are doing more or less the same thing as Israel.

On top of that, this issue threatens to tear apart the liberal coalition. The Christian left is totally disgusted with Israel and with the American Jewish community. This report only adds fuel to that long simmering feud. On top of that, getting Israel's back up at this point is not helpful in promoting the peace process.

Really, this is lot more important story than ACORN -- and I'm surprised all you conservatives aren't more interested in it.