Lubricant question.

[Shayol]

Hello.

Did look through the manual thread and tryed to search, but just got an error on the search so I figured i'd make a new post. So if there are older threads i did not find I am sorry for repost old questions.

Anyways, yes lubricant... Anyone had problems with using body/massage oil as lubricant. Without perfume. My boyfriend thought it an idea to use a soyabased massage oil when our lube did run out. I told him not to use it, but then when I look at the bottle now I wonder if it would be a problem or not(as in irritation).

Any tryed, or know better then me? The oil we have here contains following: Glycine soja, Helianthus annuus, Zea mays, Phenoxyethanol and Tocopherol.

I guess with a condom it would be a no no as oil based, but for sex toys etc.

Best Shay

 

[ChainedRebel]

Oil based products should not be used as personal lubricants. They can trap and intriduce bacteria.

Stick with water-based/soluable lubricants.

 

[SubNebGuy]

lube for a handjob maybe, but I agree about not putting it into the vagina. the outer labia, sure!

 

[SweetErika]

Hello.

Did look through the manual thread and tryed to search, but just got an error on the search so I figured i'd make a new post. So if there are older threads i did not find I am sorry for repost old questions.

Anyways, yes lubricant... Anyone had problems with using body/massage oil as lubricant. Without perfume. My boyfriend thought it an idea to use a soyabased massage oil when our lube did run out. I told him not to use it, but then when I look at the bottle now I wonder if it would be a problem or not(as in irritation).

Any tryed, or know better then me? The oil we have here contains following: Glycine soja, Helianthus annuus, Zea mays, Phenoxyethanol and Tocopherol.

I guess with a condom it would be a no no as oil based, but for sex toys etc.

Best Shay

It's likely one or more of the ingredients in the oil caused irritation. My bet would be the Penoxyethanol, but some of the others could do it for some people, too.

Oil is generally not the best thing to use, but if you must, use a minimal amount of something pure, like olive oil. Don't use stuff with additives or petroleum-based products like vasoline or mineral/baby oil, as they can cause irritation and/or infection.

In addition to not being latex-safe, oil isn't safe for toys that contain any latex/rubber. It can be used with pure vinyl/plastic (including polypropylene condoms and gloves), pure silicone, glass, and metal.

Our favorite lube is silicone because it's latex-safe, feels silky, a little goes a looooong way, it doesn't dry out, is moisturizing, inert (nothing to feed bacteria or irritate), and is fabulous for all sorts of things like handjobs, anal play and shower/water fun. The caveat is that it can't be used with toys that contain silicone.

 

[hulmule]

lubes

wouldnt silicone be bad?? thats like a breast implant? I dont think i would put it into a womens body.

 

[SweetErika]

wouldnt silicone be bad?? thats like a breast implant? I dont think i would put it into a womens body.

Silicone breast implants are back on the market. The old ones were unsafe because they sometimes leaked significant amounts of silicone into the surrounding tissues and bloodstream. The problem with that wasn't the silicone itself, but rather the body thinking the silicone was a foreign invader that needed to be attacked.

However, silicone lube, and the other products we use everyday that contain silicone, are safe because they're used topically and don't get into our blood and tissue. Silicone doesn't penetrate skin or mucous membranes - it sits on top. Even if one had a cut or something, only a negligible amount could get in, rather than a bunch, as was the case with the old implants.

Your comparison of silicone lube and the old implants is like saying, "it's unsafe to put oil on the skin because taking in a lot of oil can cause obesity and heart disease." That's silly because we know the skin doesn't absorb the quantity of oil/fat it takes to cause serious negative health effects.

Anyone who's used lubricated condoms in the past 20 years has most likely used silicone lube, and we haven't really seen problems with that, have we? We also apply and ingest liquid silicone via personal care, beauty, health, food preparation, and a host of other products, yet we're not getting the kind of negative effects we saw with the faulty silicone implants.

If you're still concerned or just curious, here are some articles explaining why silicone (lube), and why it's different from the old implants:
http://www.tantusinc.com/sex_ed_004.php
http://www.goodvibes.com/Content.aspx?id=1108&leftMenu=35&lr=y