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I would like to find a romantic love. Right now I can't even imagine it . But I treasure and love my friends. There are some I don't see or talk to on a daily basis but I know that they are a phone call away and would drop everything if I needed them. And the same would go if they needed me.
 
angelofthenorth said:
Love
I probably have got the wrong end of the stick here in my understanding of this thread, but since the person, this is aimed at will never see it what does it matter. ?

I love my life I have crossed many bridges and jumped through many hoops of fire to get here. I'm not lost so I don't need finding, I'm not in danger so I don't need rescuing, I'm not stranded so I don't need saving.

But I do and can love as fiercely and passionately as any Yorkshire lass. For my part, you were my friend and remain so.I have not now nor will I ever judge you Even though you have closed every means of communication to me. I can neither wish you a "Happy Birthday nor a Merry Christmas" You gave your reasons and that's fine. Life has many twists and turns and the fates can be cruel.

I would just like to say that in the year (November to October) we have known each other the footsteps you have made in my life will always be worn like the jewels in my crown, and I will always count my self blessed that you were in my life.

Holding you was like holding the worlds most flawless and rarest diamond, knowing that I could work every day my whole life and still never afford such a gem. Knowing too that I would also have to hand this precious jewel back. But for those few extraordinary moments, it was mine.
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Beautiful, heart sturring and what a lucky lady indeed.
 
BlackCashmere said:
No one is unlovable...and everyone is necessary and here for a purpose...I have seen quite a few of your posts despite being new...and you seem very nice to me:heart::)
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I'm unnecessary and unlovable. I've proven it and it's been told to me repeatedly.
 
angelofthenorth said:
Seems to me you need to hang out with a different crowed
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I just want to say this for everyone to see. I am NOT troubledone. I have never used that name and until a week ago I had never heard that name and I am tired of being accused of this person and his/her misdeeds.
 
Ellobomuerto said:
I just want to say this for everyone to see. I am NOT troubledone. I have never used that name and until a week ago I had never heard that name and I am tired of being accused of this person and his/her misdeeds.
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Nooo, I totally think you're someone else after reading through this thread... a certain public apology comes to mind.
 
Do something special for someone that you love. I've heard that saying it isn't enough. So, be a friend or a romance interest, do something special to show that person that you feel something special for him or her.
 
Ricky_Champagne said:
Do something special for someone that you love. I've heard that saying it isn't enough. So, be a friend or a romance interest, do something special to show that person that you feel something special for him or her.
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Always good advice! Its actions together with words that are the complete package.

Love is having your partner help you without even knowing....doing the dishes, doing the laundry, cooking dinner...that is so much love right there.
 
I saw the headline of a story on a news site today that I didn't read but didn't really have to either. Halle Berry said she is 'done with love'. I get the sentiment given her current circumstances, but it kind of made me chuckle at the same time. Does she really have a choice, does anyone? Can you choose not to love? Doesn't it just happen without a conscious thought? If it were only as simple as turning on or off a spigot and choosing to have or not to have water. Sometimes the valve dry rots and the drips come out whether we want them to or not. 💧
 
* bump *

So, today, to show my spouse my love I did the dishes.


:D

Kidding. Anyone do something special?
 
I just saw this thread, I think for the first time.

Love has been very much something I've contemplated here. The Greeks had a number of different words for love.

There is Eros. Erotic love. The love you have for your lover. It's sexy. It's that quickening of the heart when you see them. It's that tingling in the naughty bits when you think about them. And it's most likely what we all first think about when we meet someone who is attractive to us. The Greeks actually often considered this the "least" form of love, but I disagree. For me, that erotic love is where excitement lives. But it can also be where joy lives. Where passion exists. That is amazing and beautiful in it's own right. It is what songs and art are created through.

There is Ludus. That's young love. Playful love. Childhood love. They talk about dancing with someone as Ludus. Flirting. Perhaps Lit embodies Ludus in many ways - perhaps surprisingly as most of us would think of Eros when we think of Lit. But the banter and flirting on the boards, often with strangers, is Ludos. And it's fun. It's also joyful.

Then there is Philia, or deep friendship. I think many of us here have found that, more than any other kind of love. Well, maybe not. Certainly I have. And perhaps my sig line is wrong...but I stand by it (more below). That friendship borne of years of common experience. Talking, sharing emotions. Experiencing life together. In many ways, a good marriage grows into Philia.

But Pragma is what the greeks labeled that long standing love of a married couple. That old couple who seems to always know what the other is thinking. Who have been through life together and still hold hands. It is patience with someone. I think mostly, for me, I struggle with this.

There is Storge or familial love. This is the love we share with family. Parents, children, siblings. It is a love born perhaps of requirement, and yet as a parent I would argue that it is the love that I could never let go. I may fall in or out of love with other people, but I loved both of my children before they were born and cannot imagine not loving them.

Then there Agape. This is a love that is truly amazing. It is a love that is selfless and radical. Is a spiritual love born, perhaps of God, or whatever you want. It is something beyond ourselves. I have written, in a number of places on Lit that "I came for Eros but found Agape." There are people here who have been there for me, and I've been for others. People who simply give. I won't name names but they have hauled my ass through some pretty rough times. Giving. Loving. Caring. This is a gift that I've found here.

You may be surprised that I've left self love for last. (Tee hee...I know where your minds went! ;) :p). The greeks actually defined two types of self love. Narcissism which is bad. It is love of self gone awry. Unfortunately, we all too often see it in the real world. But I think too, we all too often condemn all self love this way.

The Greeks recognized that we must love ourselves too: Philautia is the kind of self love that is positive. It is a love of self not unlike the Philia we have for our friends. It is love not unlike the Storge of love for our children and family. It should be natural. Who should be a better friend than yourself? What family member should you love more than yourself? And I've seen here that many of us struggle with this. Indeed, in my reading of posts above and many many conversations I've had here, I think this is the love that we struggle with more than any. So many of you are more than willing to reach out in love to another, here or anywhere, but yet you struggle with loving yourself.

I ask, as you go out into the world today that you love. All kinds of love. Whether it is Erotic love that wields passion and excitement. Or that Agape that is so mysterious and spiritual. And I ask that each of you know that you are worthy of all the forms of love, but especially Philautia. Love yourself. For I have seen the beauty of so many of your souls.
 
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lakesailer_mi said:
I just saw this thread, I think for the first time.

Love has been very much something I've contemplated here. The Greeks had a number of different words for love.

There is Eros. Erotic love. The love you have for your lover. It's sexy. It's that quickening of the heart when you see them. It's that tingling in the naughty bits when you think about them. And it's most likely what we all first think about when we meet someone who is attractive to us. The Greeks actually often considered this the "least" form of love, but I disagree. For me, that erotic love is where excitement lives. But it can also be where joy lives. Where passion exists. That is amazing and beautiful in it's own right. It is what songs and art are created through.

There is Ludus. That's young love. Playful love. Childhood love. They talk about dancing with someone as Ludus. Flirting. Perhaps Lit embodies Ludus in many ways - perhaps surprisingly as most of us would think of Eros when we think of Lit. But the banter and flirting on the boards, often with strangers, is Ludos. And it's fun. It's also joyful.

Then there is Philia, or deep friendship. I think many of us here have found that, more than any other kind of love. Well, maybe not. Certainly I have. And perhaps my sig line is wrong...but I stand by it (more below). That friendship borne of years of common experience. Talking, sharing emotions. Experiencing life together. In many ways, a good marriage grows into Philia.

But Pragma is what the greeks labeled that long standing love of a married couple. That old couple who seems to always know what the other is thinking. Who have been through life together and still hold hands. It is patience with someone. I think mostly, for me, I struggle with this.

There is Storge or familial love. This is the love we share with family. Parents, children, siblings. It is a love born perhaps of requirement, and yet as a parent I would argue that it is the love that I could never let go. I may fall in or out of love with other people, but I loved both of my children before they were born and cannot imagine not loving them.

Then there Agape. This is a love that is truly amazing. It is a love that is selfless and radical. Is a spiritual love born, perhaps of God, or whatever you want. It is something beyond ourselves. I have written, in a number of places on Lit that "I came for Eros but found Agape." There are people here who have been there for me, and I've seen for others. People who simply give. I won't name names but they have hauled my ass through some pretty rough times. Giving. Loving. Caring. This is a gift that I've found here.

You may be surprised that I've left self love for last. (Tee hee...I know where your minds went! ;) :p). The greeks actually defined two types of self love. Narcissism which is bad. It is love of self gone awry. Unfortunately, we all too often see it in the real world. But I think too, we all too often condemn all self love this way.

The Greeks recognized that we must love ourselves too: Philautia is the kind of self love that is positive. It is a love of self not unlike the Philia we have for our friends. It is love not unlike the Storge of love for our children and family. It should be natural. Who should be a better friend than yourself? What family member should you love more than yourself? And I've seen here that many of us struggle with this. Indeed, in my reading of posts above and many many conversations I've had here, I think this is the love that we struggle with more than any. So many of you are more than willing to reach out in love to another, here or anywhere, but yet you struggle with loving yourself.

I ask, as you go out into the world today that you love. All kinds of love. Whether it is Erotic love that wields passion and excitement. Or that Agape that is so mysterious and spiritual. And I ask that each of you know that you are worthy of all the forms of love, but especially Philautia. Love yourself. For I have seen the beauty of so many of your souls.
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that is incredible, absolutely amazing :heart::heart:
 
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