Lost

[Byron In Exile]

there are a bunch of people with holes in their lives today.

what I saw of it was ok.

pretty ballsy of a network to still embrace spiritual themes.

I didn't mind it.

But... I would have preferred the ending I outlined, more along the lines of what Rod Serling would have done.

What I liked most about "Lost" was how it mirrored The Twilight Zone.

It just didn't follow through at the end.

 

[HB1965]

I didn't expect an answer for everything, but I did think the show would grapple a bit more with the questions that seemed very important for several seasons. I think the biggest loose end was that at least in my view, they never really established that what Jacob believed about the importance of the island was actually true; in fact, the finale seemed to argue for the opposite. If the Man in Black couldn't leave the island until Desmond had switched off its whatever, but then he lost all his superpowers once that happened, why was it so important to keep him bottled up there? And once he was dead, why did the island still need to be "protected" at all, and from whom?
.

This where I think it gets into something more that we don't know. I saw the MIB as tool for a greater evil. I think he became useless after a point because Jacob was able to convince someone to take over and the continuity was not broken.


Keep in mind something. There is a whole lot of unanswered questions out there and a lot of extended universe stuff that provides more story. I really don't think Lost is completely done. I think there will be more done with this.

 

[Bert Notorius]

I didn't mind it.

But... I would have preferred the ending I outlined, more along the lines of what Rod Serling would have done.

What I liked most about "Lost" was how it mirrored The Twilight Zone.

It just didn't follow through at the end.

I hadn't watched for years but still I knew the characters, they were interesting on their own without all the hocus pocus.

Good sci fi is becoming extinct.

 

[HornyHenry]

An observation

I haven't read every reply, so sorry if I might repeat someone.

Did anyone notice that the coffin opened the wrong way?
Here in the USA, every coffin I have ever seen opens on the left for viewing.
So that must have been an Australian coffin, which would be a nice production touch. I assume that Aus. and maybe England coffins open 180 degrees out, you know, backwards, like they drive, on the wrong side?
Can anyone confirm this?
And, raise your hands, how many expected to see Christian in the coffin?
How many expected Jack? Me

I expected, when the camera zoomed out that they would all be seated in their positions on the plane (With a couple of modifications of course).

So, yes, they were all dead at that time and in a type of purgutory.?
When the light went out, MIB lost his power and became human after all. (Anyone like Daft Punk?) The light was "GOOD", from which the evil one was created. Without the "GOOD", there can be no "BAD". Just like the devil, who can only exist if God exists, smokie could not exist without the light.
(If you believe in the devil, you must believe in God. Think about it.)(And conversely, if you don't believe in God, you don't have to worry about the devil.)(Evil is a whole other thing.)

The numbers: I wanted an explanation too. Of course, they were the numbers Jacob wrote next to the "candidates" names in the cave, but how and why did they wind up everywhere else? God's will?

Glad I tvo'd it. It will be good to go back and watch it later.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I've been travelling for two days and finally had enough time to download a bittorrent of the series finale.

It took a lot of willpower to avoid this thread for a day and a half!

I thought it was a satisfying conclusion. Seeing Shannon and Sayid together again...and Libby and Hurley...and Juliet and Sawyer...gave me a good "happily ever after" feeling.

 

[Bacigalupo]

Yeah, I got that vibe too. Also seeing Rose and Bernard in the jungle, didn't know when they were, and the return of Frank. Sweet Frank.

Someone on another forum had an interesting observation about MIB's death. Even then, after being kicked off the cliff, he still couldn't get off the island, landing on a shelf, not far from the water.

Of course, one could still see it as escape in the end. Just had to die to do it.

 

[Spider Rand]

I saw someone raise this question


-If the MIB could suddenly be killed (Dues Ex Machina. I've heard some say it was the cork, some say Jacob disappearing some say Jack being passed the torch) what was the danger in letting him off the stupid island?


Sure he killed people but so did Ben, Widmore and if you believe what they said earlier Jacob ordered them to do much of what they did.


So why not just let him off the island?

MIB could only be killed by removing the source of his power. He's been stabbed/shot repeatedly in human form to no effect, and the "sonic fences" only hurt/repelled him.

That meant turning of the island's "magic" for lack of a better word. Doing that rendered him mortal but was also destroying the island. Remember the island was a "cork in a bottle", well the bottle was clearly building up to blow, and bad things would have happened to the world as a result. So MIB had to die while the magic was off. Otherwise, if he left the island either the island would be destroyed or the magic would have to have been turned back on, returning power to the MIB.

 

[pretty_green_eyes]

I've read so many articles about what the finale was supposed to be about and this one http://screenrant.com/lost-finale-explanation-kofi-61464/ seemed to do the best job of breaking things down.

 

[BoomerP]

My brother started watching lost again. I don't know what's wrong with him

 

[Byron In Exile]

I've been travelling for two days and finally had enough time to download a bittorrent of the series finale.

Why would you bother with that?

It's on Hulu.

 

[Alt]

I thought it was fantastic!

 

[JinXed]

I've read so many articles about what the finale was supposed to be about and this one http://screenrant.com/lost-finale-explanation-kofi-61464/ seemed to do the best job of breaking things down.

It was an interesting read.
Now I don't feel so bad about not seeing Mr. Eko at the end (it's a shame that the actor wouldn't reprise the role for the finale.)

I like that they didn't answer every question because it allows me to think about it. Days later and people are still talking and sorting it out. Knowing this is how the show was for 6 seasons I'm still surprised by how angry some people are. Even if they had wrapped up things in nice neat packages most of those who aren't satisfied now still wouldn't be satisfied. Anyway, awesome show and great finale. Shame there isn't anything close to it on tv to take it's place.

 

[Alt]

It was an interesting read.
Now I don't feel so bad about not seeing Mr. Eko at the end (it's a shame that the actor wouldn't reprise the role for the finale.)

I like that they didn't answer every question because it allows me to think about it. Days later and people are still talking and sorting it out. Knowing this is how the show was for 6 seasons I'm still surprised by how angry some people are. Even if they had wrapped up things in nice neat packages most of those who aren't satisfied now still wouldn't be satisfied. Anyway, awesome show and great finale. Shame there isn't anything close to it on tv to take it's place.

The finale revealed the episode/season/series was Jackcentric. That alone would alienate those who weren't fans of his.

Personally, I thought it was bloody brilliant and in the end, the unanswered questions don't matter.

 

[DéjàNu]

I read a couple of blogs/forums and poeple seems really mad about the end or are feeling at peace with it.

am not totally satisfied with the ending, the wrap-up was more about this season tho

a twist that would have been fun, when the MIB died, right away we cut to Locke and he wake up, for a second there I thought the MIB did actually escaped and was in Locke body, that would have been a nice turn around!

am happy to have watch every single episodes of that series and like JinXed said there isn't anything close to it on tv to take it's place.

 

[Byron In Exile]

I read a couple of blogs/forums and poeple seems really mad about the end or are feeling at peace with it.

am not totally satisfied with the ending, the wrap-up was more about this season tho

a twist that would have been fun, when the MIB died, right away we cut to Locke and he wake up, for a second there I thought the MIB did actually escaped and was in Locke body, that would have been a nice turn around!

am happy to have watch every single episodes of that series and like JinXed said there isn't anything close to it on tv to take it's place.

It really was unique.

 

[Byron In Exile]

http://www.hulu.com/watch/151670/jimmy-kimmel-live-aloha-to-lost

The "alternate endings" are hilarious.

 

[Sinny]

I've been travelling for two days and finally had enough time to download a bittorrent of the series finale.

It took a lot of willpower to avoid this thread for a day and a half!

I thought it was a satisfying conclusion. Seeing Shannon and Sayid together again...and Libby and Hurley...and Juliet and Sawyer...gave me a good "happily ever after" feeling.

Seeing all those reunions made me realize that Lost really was a series of torrid and heart wrenching love stories ending in loss and separation. The sum of that wasn't evident until the final episode and all the reunions unfolded. I had near forgotten about Sayid and Shannon; and Libby and Hurley, too. Then there was the coupling of Juliet and Sawyer.. Kate and Jack ... Rose and Bernard ... Sawyer and Penny ... Sun and Jin ...Charlie and Claire ... so many love stories.

The writers really decided to go for the emotional ending, rather than the intellectual wrap up. I think I'm cool with that. But my interest certainly waned the last four or five episodes. Wish the last several episodes were a little more revealing, but I can't tell you how they should have differed. I think the enormity of the series and the broad arcs in the story lines made it impossible for a tidy wrap up. Damn me and my need for tidy wrap ups. :/

 

[XXplorher]

In the end... I respect the result.

Lost asked us a ton about us, and them, and where we fit in, and why, and where we’ve come from, where we’re going, and why we’ve been there. In short, what is the purpose of humanity and why must it sustain in it’s flawed state? What are the accurate parameters?

What is the purpose of it all?

And what is ‘actionably’ correct.

The Doc and Locke fought the apex of that real nice for the first 3yrs or so. These last 2yrs I found myself more than a little annoyed by the willingness of character value shift. Just swapping drastically from left to right and back. That made no sense.

Initially, the story was driven by character. Lately, the characters were used to drive the story – in a way that threw away all our prior investment. That was a mistake.

This final episode brought that back, respectably.

And when it comes to ‘answers’... who thinks a show that tackles all those issues is going to define a proper answer? That’s not going to happen. They’ll try to do it in a way that best examples an answer to the intent of the show. I feel they did that. (Check the Bible, or any other insanely up to interpretation of the con/reason for man to supply a perfect answer. There is none.)

I think it a proper idea to say, ‘The island happened. But the Sideways didn’t.’ That was NOT a cheat. I loved it. Specifically because it swallowed down all the disparity. It actually made sense of reality.

The shit you think makes no sense... doesn’t. But it occurs. And it will continue to. If you were afforded a fantasy, the moment after you die, that endured long enough for you to admit that you’ve died... wouldn’t everyone else you hold dear want the same equation? And if those ideas where allowed to intertwine... wouldn’t you find each other? And in finding each other, subconsciously knowing you’re dead, wouldn’t that ultimately allow you to let go?

Clearly, the entire arc of the series was... ‘How do we redeem ourselves? And what’s real in our minds while we’re attempting to reason ourselves to redemption? How often are we accurate?’

I found it very fitting that Jack, suddenly realized he was dead. (But not that he was at fault to want to fix everything. He wasn’t. He was flawed to think he could do it all alone. It actually fails the intent of his equation. As does any other thinly disguised admirable trait the Lost were working on). The idea that, rejecting the notion you cannot control the result of anything and everything... wasn’t something Jack could accept. I don’t like the way they transitioned his progress the last 2 yrs (I thought it was sort of lazy) but in the end it’s the right answer to a question I myself have a problem with.

It’s not fully up to you, man. You do what you do. And then you’re gonna die. You’re really not in any position to determine anything. But that doesn’t mean you should lay down either. In the time that Jack was there, he mattered. Is that too finite? Who’s to say? If he wasn’t on the island during that specific moment in time... the world might be dust. The WORLD trusts that Jack will do what he must. Jack will! And the world continues because of it. (That’s Jacobs antithesis of what the man in black believes.)

“There’s only one end. Until then... it’s just progress.” (Jacob)

That scene with his dad chose not to define whether Jack or Locke were correct. Whether faith or action is correct. It only said, ‘You’re going to do what you do. And when that’s over, you’ll be done. And the world will go on.”

And then Jack asked, “Why?” Which is the key element to Jack. I thought it brave of them to ask that. They could have avoided it. It would have been convenient for Jack to no longer feel the desire to ask that... but that wasn’t reasonable. So they let him ask it.

I’m not sure I’m satisfied with, “Because you need to remember... and you need to let go.” That might seem a bit cheap. But ya know, I don’t feel cheated. It’s a good answer. It sounds accurate.

You can’t have any memories without taking action. And you can’t let go without also allowing that.


I’m totally satisfied with how they ended that.


And I’m going to miss them challenging my cranium, and all the characters involved in making crazy shit like their scenario – real, and continually thought provoking. I’m gonna miss it. Of that you can be certain.


RIP L.O.S.T.

 

[Batch]

I am still processing the final episode.

 

[Byron In Exile]

"Jacob being who he is, I expected to be a little more surprised. You're sort of the obvious choice, don't you think?"

"He didn't choose me. I volunteered."

"I assume you're here to stop me?"

"I can't stop you. In fact I want to go with you."

"I'm sorry, Jack, I think you're a little confused about what I came here to do."

"No, I'm not. You're going to the far side of the bamboo forest, to the place I've sworn that I'll protect. And then you think you're going to destroy the island."

"I think?"

"That's right. Because that's not what's gonna happen."

"What's gonna happen, Jack?"

"I'm gonna kill you."

"And how to you plan to do that?"

"That's a surprise."

I still think this is the greatest exchange of the episode.

It was going to be a surprise for both of them.

Jack had no idea what he was going to do, but he had faith in how it was going to end.

 

[Sinny]

I am still processing the final episode.

Me, too. I need to see it again. Or maybe 20 more times. Overload.

And pardon if this already was posted, but here's something amusing and completely dumbirific, but Lost fans will snerk: http://www.youtube.com/v/G-DShnvNNv...xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

 

[Byron In Exile]

And pardon if this already was posted, but here's something amusing and completely dumbirific, but Lost fans will snerk: http://www.youtube.com/v/G-DShnvNNv...xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/byroninexile/lollerskates.gif

 

[Batch]

Me, too. I need to see it again. Or maybe 20 more times. Overload.

And pardon if this already was posted, but here's something amusing and completely dumbirific, but Lost fans will snerk: http://www.youtube.com/v/G-DShnvNNv...xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1

I can barely watch the opening credits of the final. I have tried the last few days.

 

[Sinny]

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/byroninexile/lollerskates.gif

I just watched it again and laughed so hard I thought my lungs were going to turn inside out. I love the Sayid and Sawyer impressions the best.

 

[Sinny]

I can barely watch the opening credits of the final. I have tried the last few days.

Likewise, but my distraction/inability to watch is because I've got a to-do list that has spilled onto a fourth page. Next week I am totally slacking, though.