Lost

I am so freakin' sad about Jin, Sun and Sayid. Thought you guys might like to read the popwatch blog. I am really gonna miss this show.


But back to your thoughts. “Forget the title of the episode. ‘The Candidate’ had absolutely nothing to do with finding and naming Jacob’s replacement and instead had everything to do with making me feel really, really, REALLY crappy! How dare they take down Jin and Sun in a sinking submarine! How dare they make the Korean couple’s daughter Ji-Yeon an orphan! And how dare they kill Sayid! So what if he died a heroic death and by trying to smother the Locke-ness Monster’s bomb? He’s Sayid! We love him! Why did they have to die? WHY?”

“Because now you know this show is willing and capable of killing anyone,” says Damon Lindelof, suddenly materializing in my office in a puff of brimstone accompanied by Carlton Cuse. (Actually, that isn’t true. I interviewed the producers over hamburgers… but I’ll tell you that boring story in Friday’s Doc Jensen column. On with the important stuff!) Why was it so important for Lost to prove that it can be downright homicidal during its last season? To establish once and for all that the Locke-ness Monster is the true villain of season 6 and quite possibly all of Lost. “There is no ambiguity,” says Cuse. “He is evil and he has to be stopped.”

Or, as Terry O’Quinn told me in a recent interview: “Puffy is one nasty mo-fo.”

To be clear, the producers are not heartless bastards. They’re only semi-heartless bastards. They knew fans would be devastated (and angry) about the deaths and were pretty broken up themselves about offing three beloved creations. “When we watched the death scenes ourselves, it was brutal,” says Cuse. “[But] the story always comes first.” Lindelof elaborates: “In many ways, the season was structured as a long con on behalf of the Man In Black. Once we revealed that Locke was the Monster, we knew the audience would immediately mistrust him, and we would have to spend at least a dozen episodes of Locke trying to convince the audience that he did not have malevolent intention, that all he wanted to do was get off The Island. But everything he was doing was leading up to one moment, which was [trying to] get the candidates in one fell swoop. He knew if he killed just one of them, everyone would know what he was up to.’”

...much more at link

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/04/lost-producers-actors-candidate/
 
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I was ambivalent about Sayid's death mainly because he was very difficult to read this season. It would not have taken much convincing to assert that he wasn't himself in the way that Locke clearly wasn't. When the bomb went off, particularly following on from Jack's certainty that nothing was going to happen, it was quite disorienting and took a while to fully realize that Sayid, a central figure from the beginning, was finally and really gone.
Jin and Sun's demise was quite a bit more immediate and sharper, more difficult to take but ultimately the combination of the three, and with Kate being pretty badly injured, causes me to hope the story isn't wrapped finally by all meeting their ends.
 
Frank, the sun never shone upon our love before,
Until there was Frank.

Up for you from me to you
Sweet floppy Frank
We've had a lifetime of Frank.

Endless Frank will always flow
For all we know.

For all we know.
Right from the first day
I knew your name
I never knew love was the same.

Never knew love was the same.

Hopin' to find
Sweet Frank on the line,
Nothin' but sweet lovin' Frank.

Cause it's Frank

Cause it's knowin' that love
Could be Frank if only
The sun and the moon
Would collide to be Frank.
Let me be frank about Frank,

Let me be frank about Frank.

Let me be frank about Frank,

Cause Frank is the best Frank
That's ever happened to me.

Please, please don't go.

Goodbye, Frank. You were enjoyed.

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They should promote Hurley to some kind of Second Coming , a kind of reluctant , even hapless , Messianic figure in place to counter F'locke's efforts to get off the Island.
That could have cast F'Locke as a parallel to a Fallen Angel/Uber Demon Lucifer/Satan type critter seeking to escape confinement in hell/hades type situation.
Then we have old F'Locke manipulating the deaths of the candidates/potential obstructions .

Plenty of 'Judas-symbol' options about. Almost all of them , really.

There was huge potential for a great scene with good old reliable , quietly and 'hesitantly resolute' Hurley facing the F'Locker down . Hurley has been the main constant throughout the show. A reliable , confused , reluctant , yet adaptable , hero.
Along the lines of F'Locke saying...

"Out of my way Hugo , you can just step aside".

and Hugo rejoining ...

" Sorry Dude , I can't let you leave , you know that. I know that . I don't like it much. 'fact I don't like it all . But hey, you done so much bad stuff here and in the world, an' got so much more planned for if you get off this rock. So here we are. I know I am just the big guy who folks think is either a joke or a freak, but I am a big joke or freak so there's plenty to deal with. You want off the island, come get some Dude. I got plenty to deal out , and you really shouldn't have messed with me an' Libby the way you probably did , that makes me kinda mad. Did I really say all that ?

I think that would allow a better ending than some .
 
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I know Hurley is probably going to die, and I just don't want to see it. I believe Jack will replace Jacob and possibly even have Sawyer replace MIB.
 
I know Hurley is probably going to die, and I just don't want to see it. I believe Jack will replace Jacob and possibly even have Sawyer replace MIB.

I dread the passing of Hurley, as well. What a delightful character.

And I still maintain, perhaps stupidly, that the series will end with Jack and Locke sitting on the beach, duplicating the scene with Jacob and Mr. Smoke Monster from last season. With Locke threatening to kill Jack. It'd be a great ending. Cycles of good and evil, repeat, repeat, repeat. Good balances evil. Evil balances good.
 
Awesome episode tonight. We got a lot of answers, still lots of questions. Any theories? What is the light? What did the man in black turn into? Why didn't he get a name, just brother?
 
Who's their father>?

Despite her cunty ways (killing the birth mother of the twins and then trying to kill the Smoke Monster) is she really Eve? If so, who is Adam?

We know Jacob's name, what is Smoke Monster's name?

That footage of Jack and Kate at the end, was that makeshift filler or what?
 
Who's their father>?

Despite her cunty ways (killing the birth mother of the twins and then trying to kill the Smoke Monster) is she really Eve? If so, who is Adam?

We know Jacob's name, what is Smoke Monster's name?

That footage of Jack and Kate at the end, was that makeshift filler or what?

The "Adam" in the cave was Jacob's brother's body, the body he had from before he was reborn as Smokey.

The footage of Jack and Kate was a flashback to a scene in the first season when Jack and Kate found the "Adam & Eve" bodies in the cave.
 
So weird that the brother remains nameless. Just "Brother." And wow, Allison Janney. WOW!

And I also loved the callback to the Jack/Kate episode.

Two episodes left? Is that right? Man, it's going too fast.
 
I'm starting to think that if he does have a name, it might be one of the big revelations to come, perhaps in the final scenes.
 
If it's "Rumplestilskin" I'm going to burn ABC to the ground.

I expect them never to reveal the name. Although the biblical allusion is so strong, i'm gonna stick with Esau. Yet, I guess they prefer to have "evil" be nameless to represent the evil in the world/in all of us and "good" to be represented by actual people with real names (the decision by everyone to fight the evil in himself, what makes us human)


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I think its becoming clear that if you are a person looking for definitive answers and explanations to things like what is the light? you are probably gonna be disappointed. I think they will just leave a lot of things up to interpretation rather than break it down with a 100%, scientific explanation and thats what makes the show intriqueing. Lindelof as well as cast members have stated that with all the rumors out there, none have guessed the ending yet. The whole idea that two candidates will replace Jacob and the man in black in the scene they shared on the beach is false. The Step Mother character never had a rival, so why does the next one have to. The idea that Jack would not be able to be that person based on his character traits, I believe is false. What if the whole point was for him to go from the person he was to someone more like original Locke, a man of faith, willing to do anything to protect the island.
 
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I think its becoming clear that if you are a person looking for definitive answers and explanations to things like what is the light? you are probably gonna be disappointed. I think they will just leave a lot of things up to interpretation rather than break it down with a 100%, scientific explanation and thats what makes the show intriqueing. Lindelof as well as cast members have stated that with all the rumors out there, none have guessed the ending yet. The whole idea that two candidates will replace Jacob and the man in black in the scene they shared on the beach is false. The Step Mother character never had a rival, so why does the next one have to. The idea that Jack would not be able to be that person based on his character traits, I believe is false. What if the whole point was for him to go form the person he was to someone more like original Locke, a man of faith, willing to do anything to protect the idea.

That, to me, is a brilliant idea. Especially, because doctors in my opinion are more likely to be 100% science with very little faith. That would show a great turn around on Jack's part, that I believe we are already seeing.
 
A few things I wanted to know;

was the step mother able to take the form of the smoke monster? How did she kill all those people? If so, obviously she went into the light. It would explain why she was adamnant about Jacob not going down there.

they didn't show alot of the man in blacks people, but I saw no kids, were they also unable to survive birth back then?
 
A few things I wanted to know;

was the step mother able to take the form of the smoke monster? How did she kill all those people? If so, obviously she went into the light. It would explain why she was adamnant about Jacob not going down there.

they didn't show alot of the man in blacks people, but I saw no kids, were they also unable to survive birth back then?

My first thought was when the step mother killed the original mother, it began the "can't survive child birth."
She caused the first sin perhaps? And, so from then on, nobody was allowed.
 
My first thought was when the step mother killed the original mother, it began the "can't survive child birth."
She caused the first sin perhaps? And, so from then on, nobody was allowed.

Oh, my gosh! That's what I thought too! When she gave birth I was like, "Hm, I guess the birth thing isn't in effect yet..." Then she got rocked in the face and I was like, "Aha! THERE it is!" :D
 
My first thought was when the step mother killed the original mother, it began the "can't survive child birth."
She caused the first sin perhaps? And, so from then on, nobody was allowed.
Thats an interesting theory but hse was able to survive childbirth the same way Claire was, she arrived already pregnant, the other mothers to be all lost their babies between the second and third trimester.

What occurred to me was how Claire was told she wasn't meant to raise her child, similar to Jacob and the man in black not being raised by there mother. Perhaps Aaron or the Kwon child are destined to takeover Jacob's role, the names in the cave did say Kwon, it wasn't specific which one.
 
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