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IF this is true (and funny enough, Trump said this four years ago last January, too. Was it true then?)

...Who paid the agitators?

I think we all know. Trump's people paid them, to justify the crackdown.
 
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I have no way to verify this, but this gal claims that adverts were on Craigslist under the manual labor portion or “jobs” link in several cities. Notably L.A. and Dallas. This was used in the past, but now that Alt media are on it they’ve had to get creative.

I don’t doubt it for a minute though.
 
HumpDayHoratio said:
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I have no way to verify this, but this gal claims that adverts were on Craigslist under the manual labor portion or “jobs” link in several cities. Notably L.A. and Dallas. This was used in the past, but now that Alt media are on it they’ve had to get creative.

I don’t doubt it for a minute though.
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No anarchist group has that kind of money.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
He actually campaigned on the opposite.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-t-deploy-national-223947002.html
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If you read into the article what Trump was referring to was the National Guard being mobilized under title 10 to actual engage protestors. Under the 'POSSE COMATATUS' certain declarations have to be made by the president of the United States, one being enacting the 'insurrection act' another invoking 'Martial Law'. In 2020 he refused both.

The active duty status for national Guardsmen today is strictly defensive, for the protection of federal property and federal law enforcement. THEY ARE NOT CLOSING with PROTESTERS OR RIOTERS. LAPD, the sheriffs department and CHIPS are handling protesters along with some federal law enforcement. Difference today is that federal law enforcement are there in force, being on the scene allow US attorneys to play a larger role in that federal charges in federal courts will give prosecutions some teeth.

I believe the Marines are not bound by the 'Posse Comitatus act'.

Lessons were learned from 2020 riots. Having active duty soldiers on site is a wise move.

Should of happened J/6.

The president doesn't have to coordinate with governors to activate National Guard to protect federal real estate. That being said, working with governors is the preferred way. Newsom is such a poor leader, he wanted to make Trump look bad by stalling. Trump waited for 2 days for the mayor to mobilize LAPD to assist federal agents and Newsom played politics.

Like I said earlier, things changed in 5 years. Lessons learned from 2020, Politicians grow wiser over time. IMHO
 
icanhelp1 said:
If you read into the article what Trump was referring to was the National Guard being mobilized under title 10 to actual engage protestors. Under the 'POSSE COMATATUS' certain declarations have to be made by the president of the United States, one being enacting the 'insurrection act' another invoking 'Martial Law'. In 2020 he refused both.

The active duty status for national Guardsmen today is strictly defensive, for the protection of federal property and federal law enforcement. THEY ARE NOT CLOSING with PROTESTERS OR RIOTERS. LAPD, the sheriffs department and CHIPS are handling protesters along with some federal law enforcement. Difference today is that federal law enforcement are there in force, being on the scene allow US attorneys to play a larger role in that federal charges in federal courts will give prosecutions some teeth.

I believe the Marines are not bound by the 'Posse Comitatus act'.

Lessons were learned from 2020 riots. Having active duty soldiers on site is a wise move.

Should of happened J/6.

The president doesn't have to coordinate with governors to activate National Guard to protect federal real estate. That being said, working with governors is the preferred way. Newsom is such a poor leader, he wanted to make Trump look bad by stalling. Trump waited for 2 days for the mayor to mobilize LAPD to assist federal agents and Newsom played politics.

Like I said earlier, things changed in 5 years. Lessons learned from 2020, Politicians grow wiser over time. IMHO
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Don't confuse bugshit with details or facts.
 
jomar said:
Unfortunately, I couldn’t find how to post a google search results link. If you know how I’m all ears. In the meantime this is a bit unkempt and incomplete, but you get the idea, trump is multi-tasking, not just about immigration

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House.gov
http://democrats-appropriations.house.gov › press-releases

Mar 14, 2025 — The Trump Administration is breaking the law and undermining the Constitution every day by illegally stealing funds for the programs that help ...

Mazars and Vance, and President Trump's Ongoing ...​

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American Constitution Society
https://www.acslaw.org › mazars-and-vance-and-presid...

But President Trump's assault on our constitutional structures extends well beyond his rhetoric. The examples are legion, but here are just a few: He has ...

Trump's Counter-Constitution​

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Verfassungsblog
https://verfassungsblog.de › trumps-counter-constitution

Feb 21, 2025 — The US Constitution is practically impossible to amend. Trump is therefore revising the Constitution in the only way that US law makes possible.

What's a constitutional crisis? Here's how Trump's recent ...​

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Ohio Capital Journal
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com › 2025/03/03 › whats-a-c...

Mar 3, 2025 — Unlike Lincoln or Roosevelt, Trump is trying to seize the powers of Congress and unilaterally transform the federal government. Roosevelt worked ...

Trump's claims of vast presidential powers run up against ...​

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The Conversation
https://theconversation.com › trumps-claims-of-vast-pre...

Feb 25, 2025 — Currently, there are more than 80 lawsuits challenging Trump's executive orders for violating both federal law and the Constitution. Some ...
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Trump's assault on the First Amendment​

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International Bar Association
https://www.ibanet.org › Trumps-assault-on-the-First-A...

May 14, 2025 — The Trump administration has executed a wide-ranging crackdown on freedom of speech by targeting student protestors, lawyers and the press.

Trump's Actions Have Created a Constitutional Crisis ...​

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https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics

Feb 12, 2025 — Law professors have long debated what the term means. But now many have concluded that the nation faces a reckoning as President Trump tests the boundaries of ...

Trump, asked if he has to 'uphold the Constitution,' says, 'I ...​

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May 4, 2025 — Trump argued that fulfilling his promise to rapidly carry out mass deportations may take precedence over giving immigrants the right to due ...
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Says a lot that you don’t support the first amendment.
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What he says off the cuff and what he does are two different situations. It is very obvious and Trump makes it very obvious that he will abide by court decisions and work the system. He will appeal to congress to put district court judges back in line and appeal his cases in succession to the higher courts. In many cases district court judges are wrong but once a decision even if wrong it interferes with article II authority. District court judges that are overruled by higher courts should pay a price for being wrong.
 
icanhelp1 said:
If you read into the article what Trump was referring to was the National Guard being mobilized under title 10 to actual engage protestors. Under the 'POSSE COMATATUS' certain declarations have to be made by the president of the United States, one being enacting the 'insurrection act' another invoking 'Martial Law'. In 2020 he refused both.

The active duty status for national Guardsmen today is strictly defensive, for the protection of federal property and federal law enforcement. THEY ARE NOT CLOSING with PROTESTERS OR RIOTERS. LAPD, the sheriffs department and CHIPS are handling protesters along with some federal law enforcement. Difference today is that federal law enforcement are there in force, being on the scene allow US attorneys to play a larger role in that federal charges in federal courts will give prosecutions some teeth.

I believe the Marines are not bound by the 'Posse Comitatus act'.

Lessons were learned from 2020 riots. Having active duty soldiers on site is a wise move.

Should of happened J/6.

The president doesn't have to coordinate with governors to activate National Guard to protect federal real estate. That being said, working with governors is the preferred way. Newsom is such a poor leader, he wanted to make Trump look bad by stalling. Trump waited for 2 days for the mayor to mobilize LAPD to assist federal agents and Newsom played politics.

Like I said earlier, things changed in 5 years. Lessons learned from 2020, Politicians grow wiser over time. IMHO
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So we both agree that Trump did not campaign on this and in fact campaigned on the opposite. Thanks for clearing that up and admitting you were wrong.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
So we both agree that Trump did not campaign on this and in fact campaigned on the opposite. Thanks for clearing that up and admitting you were wrong.
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jomar said:
You sound like you’re AOK with what trump is doing. As far as Dems promoting violence, what exactly do think trump is up to sending 4700 military personnel to a few blocks of LA uninvited and unneeded?
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He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

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Wrong, you're delusional. He campaigned on enforcing immigration law and mass deportations.

You twisted my post to mean something other than what I actually posted.

I never wrote he campaigned on using the military. Jomar wrote two different thoughts.

Upholding immigration laws was part his campaign strategy. In this case he used the military to protect federal property and federal employees doing their job.

One is a campaign promise and the other is a reaction to the situation on the ground.

You love playing word games. You post an article from 2020 which has zero relevance to the topic at hand. 2020 is not 2025.
 
icanhelp1 said:
Democrat politicians are batshit crazy. Sanctuary status doesn't grant states or local governments the authority to craft their own immigration policy.

Common sense is very uncommon within the democrat ranks.
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They're democrats. Their stock in trade is lies and misstatements.
 
icanhelp1 said:
He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

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Wrong, you're delusional. He campaigned on enforcing immigration law and mass deportations.

You twisted my post to mean something other than what I actually posted.

I never wrote he campaigned on using the military. Jomar wrote two different thoughts.

Upholding immigration laws was part his campaign strategy. In this case he used the military to protect federal property and federal employees doing their job.

One is a campaign promise and the other is a reaction to the situation on the ground.

You love playing word games. You post an article from 2020 which has zero relevance to the topic at hand. 2020 is not 2025.
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Except it was just shown he campaigned on the opposite.
 
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