Looking for advice from Erotic Horror writers or fans

[tentoestoofar]

Hi all,

I’ve recently started posted stories here to the site and for my last effort I tried something completely different to straight up smut, instead trying my hand at writing some erotic horror. I love B movies and exploitation film so it was perfect for me to try and enter this kind of writing.

Unfortunately, my story, The Glow, was rejected on the grounds of it being Vore or Snuff, which I found to be quite a shocking conclusion - I would never want to write about either of those things lol

So, the plot of the rejected chapter is that a group of drunk teenagers visit a haunted house said to be the site of many Satanic orgies and rituals. One girl, a lesbian, is the first to encounter what I’ve called Ectonymphs, human creatures that live between death and life in a plane/dimension of infinite pleasure. If you’ve seen Hellraiser, I guess it’s kinda like that, only these creatures want to fuck rather than cause havoc lol

After a sexual encounter with these creatures, she is kissed by one, which transfers her spirit / soul / what have you over into the dimension of infinite pleasure. The shock closer to the chapter is that the teenage lesbian is standing alongside the two ectonymphs, and sees her body crumpled on the floor, apparently dead, and she screams out loud.

This was just a cliff hanger, the girl isn’t actually dead, she is just a different plane or dimension. I appreciate that this sounds absolutely ridiculous, but it is pretty hammy erotic horror, but I think it’s this apparent death at the end of the story which has triggered the manuscript rejection.

My question is, how can I alter the story so that it doesn’t get rejected by the filter? In the next chapter, several more stupid or horny teenagers were planned to be taken over in the other world, and in the conclusion, the smart one would bring them all back, save for one girl, who would be happier there and remain in the other world. I’m now afraid to continue in this vein, for fear it would be wasted if I couldn’t share the story.

So TLDR - From what I can tell, I think the main problem is that the that the girl is kissed and then appears to die (she doesn’t), and this was triggered as snuff?

I am looking for advice from lovers of or writers of erotic horror fiction - how do you work in line with Literotica’s Ts and Cs in regards to states that may resemble death, or leaving the “mortal plane”? Lol Or when dealing with ghosts, spirits and otherworldly creatures fucking?

I’ve never written this kind of thing before and have fallen fowl of the rules. I certainly don’t want to write death porn, or whatever the fuck “vore” is (unsure if I should even Google it).

Thank you for your time and I apologise for the ramble!

 

[Jada59]

Or... Could the characters have been perceived as underage? I had to look up the definition of vore. I'm not sure but if it were that, that could be a violation of the rules.

I don't write such stuff and your plot doesn't sound at all interesting to me so perhaps someone who likes this stuff will chime in.

 

[AlinaX]

Can you merge the chapters into one story in which all characters end up alive?

Isn't vore eating stuff? Does that include monsters eating humans?

 

[ElectricBlue]

After a sexual encounter with these creatures, she is kissed by one, which transfers her spirit / soul / what have you over into the dimension of infinite pleasure. The shock closer to the chapter is that the teenage lesbian is standing alongside the two ectonymphs, and sees her body crumpled on the floor, apparently dead, and she screams out loud.

This was just a cliff hanger, the girl isn’t actually dead, she is just a different plane or dimension. I appreciate that this sounds absolutely ridiculous, but it is pretty hammy erotic horror, but I think it’s this apparent death at the end of the story which has triggered the manuscript rejection.

My guess would be, you're probably right - your ending possibly tripped a vore button.

How far away from completion is your next chapter? If it's ready to go, and its opening clarifies what has happened to the girl (ie: not dead), then maybe submitting both chapters together, with an explanatory note of some sort to the Editor, might break the death nexus. It is, after all, Erotic Horror, and it's reasonable to think there will be some weird shit going on.

 

[Bramblethorn]

My guess would be, you're probably right - your ending possibly tripped a vore button.

How far away from completion is your next chapter? If it's ready to go, and its opening clarifies what has happened to the girl (ie: not dead), then maybe submitting both chapters together, with an explanatory note of some sort to the Editor, might break the death nexus. It is, after all, Erotic Horror, and it's reasonable to think there will be some weird shit going on.

Yeah, my first guess would be that Laurel misread something while skimming and thought it was more snuff-y than it was. Either do what EB suggested, or PM Laurel and discuss it.

Literotica has a bunch of stories tagged as "vore" with the most recent being last September, so that's not necessarily an obstacle to publication.

 

[SimonDoom]

It doesn't sound like vore. Vore is the sexual fantasy of being consumed. It's more like snuff, but not really. Snuff is when the killing of a person is presented in a way that is intended to be sexually arousing. this site doesn't allow that. But just because there's sex and killing, or faux killing, doesn't make it snuff.

I'd send a note to Laurel to explain the situation and why it's not snuff. This works sometimes. I did this and was successful at explaining recently why one of my submissions was not bestiality. So give it a try.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I'd send a note to Laurel to explain the situation and why it's not snuff. This works sometimes. I did this and was successful at explaining recently why one of my submissions was not bestiality. So give it a try.

Ah yes, but convincing someone about a fish - it's not quite the same is it .

You're right though, I reckon a quick explanation should do the trick. I'd do it with a resubmit though, not a PM, coz the story's already been bounced - and has to be resubmitted anyway.

 

[soulhouse]

But just because there's sex and killing, or faux killing, doesn't make it snuff.

I've been anticipating having to post here with a similar question when it comes time to submitting the final part of my 3-part story "Fucked Stupid", because I want a character to die as a result of having sex. However, death isn't meant to result in pleasure, rather sexual pleasure results in death, if that makes sense. I'm hoping that differentiates it from snuff. In my story, it raises the sense of peril for another character in giving in to desire.

I've long enjoyed the stories of Manyeyedhydra, who often has characters die in similar circumstances, so presumably some sexual situations resulting in death are acceptable to Laurel.

 

[tentoestoofar]

Thanks to everyone who responded, this has all been very helpful feedback and so much too, in such a short period of time. I will take another look at the manuscript and see if there is any wording that may imply otherwise, and then resubmit along with a note to the editor explaining myself, the story and my intentions with it.

Unfortunately part 2 is not finished, I only wrote a few paragraphs of it to make sure it flowed seamlessly with the end of part 1, but I’ve also got a bunch of more “regular” sex stories in the works as well. I tend to flit between stuff when I get a feel for a certain plot development or a lightbulb moment on how to move things forward.

Also to clarify to the question above, all of the characters ages are given as 18 and 19 early on in the story.

And to the person who mentioned manyeyedhydra, I’ve also read a few of their stories, and my initial thought on the rejection of my story was, “wait a second, I read about someone getting eaten alive during sex by a Venus flytrap of a vagina, and MY weak shit gets rejected” Haha

Thank you all for your input and help. It has been very much appreciated .

 

[tentoestoofar]

The story has now been accepted

https://literotica.com/s/the-glow-ch-01

Thank you to everyone who helped with advice, and also to the admins of Literotica

 

[ElectricBlue]

The story has now been accepted

https://literotica.com/s/the-glow-ch-01

Thank you to everyone who helped with advice, and also to the admins of Literotica

Once I got past the first half a page (blah blah blah, who cares about any of the back story? why do writers keep telling me stuff that's got nothing to do with the story itself?); once Tammy got to the house and the point of the story got going, it got sweet and a little bit nasty at the same time.

The "glow" is a neat idea, and the two (no spoilers) having their way were sufficiently ******asmic to be interesting.

It's derivative, but then in rural America, what isn't? but decently written. Once you got past the front-end waffle.

If that stuff really is important (which I doubt), weave it in slowly and make it matter; if it's irrelevant, leave it out. Mind you, there are thousands of readers who want all the backstory explained, as if somehow it makes the characters more credible, but for me it's irrelevant, it doesn't add character at all. The things that add character are what they do, how they speak, and you handled that okay, once they got down to it. Showing, not telling.

As an example, you didn't add back story for the two women in the house, and they came across just fine.

I gave you a five, to counter the ass-hat who'll give you a two because you're not Stephen King. But not for the first quarter, mind, you only get a two for that .

 

[sdsioux]

Too much swearing for me

 

[transrotical]

I thought the plot how you described it in this thread about the satanic house with the ectocreatures was really interesting but when I went to read the story I think it fell a little short.

What I like about horror is the lead-up to the climax that draws one in that's either absent or lost in your story. There's description about the family situation in the beginning that's irrelevant that could be cut. K I S S. If it's relevant to later chapters, leave it for later, not now.

All that over description takes the readers attention away from the good meaty substance of your writing. Have a single paragraph for context and -bam- they're at the satanic house about to enter it.

I can tell by your story that you're a really solid writer, good syntax and word choice. Keep on trooping