Looking For a Writer To Finish A Great BDSM story

[jennypclicker_8675309]

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[Bramblethorn]

Has he given permission for other writers to work on this?

 

[ElectricBlue]

Has he given permission for other writers to work on this?

Yes, it will be interesting to hear the answer - it's not the first go around we've had on these proposals in the past, and it won't be the last.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Hello All,

I am looking for a writer to help me complete Cheerleader's Torment by James Dawson.

If you are aware, Mr. Dawson's story was one of the most interesting works done. If fact, several writers tried to complete the tail but, no one every did.

Awkward construction, incomplete comparison, and works of art are not "done"; they may be written or painted, or such. "Tale," not "tail." "Ever," not "every"

I am looking for a writer who can take this task.

Tasks are not "taken;' they are "undertaken."

I have links to the current story as well as links to the two versions already began but never finished.

"Begun."

I have been editing for years, so I do not mind helping with the editing as well as the story context.

Do you mean "content?"

My current ideas are to finish the tale in the style of another author, who has been MIA from our site for years. breastysadie

If you have ideas, there should be more than one.


Please let me know if anyone is interested.

As, I would love to bring a conclusion to this masterwork.

With or without the unnecessary comma, this is a sentence fragment. I also expect you'd rather bring it to a conclusion than bring a conclusion to it.


Thank you all.

Please don't help me with the editing.

 

[Voboy]

My thoughts precisely, Tio.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

@Tio-

I didn't even notice all that. My brain just skipped to the part where this seemed like a scam of some kind. Thanks.

As an aside, I can't quite wrap my head around the request. But then, I like to do my own thing.

 

[ElectricBlue]

@Tio-

I didn't even notice all that. My brain just skipped to the part where this seemed like a scam of some kind. Thanks.

As an aside, I can't quite wrap my head around the request. But then, I like to do my own thing.

Me too. I just read the "let's finish someone else's work" trope, and went looking for popcorn.

 

[MichaelGH]

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[jennypclicker_8675309]

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[ElectricBlue]

It has been one story that has been waiting to be finished. Any so far it seems that the author is no longer around to do it. However, it's one that needs to be completed. Mainly due to the fact that it has been passed around the net so many times with everyone getting paid from it. It is unfair that he ever finished the story.

So much so, that the only other James Dawson's has said that it isn't even his story, and wants nothing to do with it.

I want to make sure that this great author gets his. Even if it's a work of fanfiction.

The point you seem to have missed/over-looked/ignored is the ethics of taking someone else's work, without their explicit permission, and doing what you want with it.

This comes up often here in the AH, and apart from the endless go-around about copyright, the consensus from writers is that the basic idea lacks ethics. Simply put, the original piece is NOT yours to take and extend, the original belongs to the author, and if you don't have explicit permission, you really shouldn't do it. Arguing "fan-fic" doesn't over-ride original ownership.

The debates here usually end with the chorus, "Write your own work, don't pinch somebody else's."

 

[MichaelGH]

The point you seem to have missed/over-looked/ignored is the ethics of taking someone else's work, without their explicit permission, and doing what you want with it.

This comes up often here in the AH, and apart from the endless go-around about copyright, the consensus from writers is that the basic idea lacks ethics. Simply put, the original piece is NOT yours to take and extend, the original belongs to the author, and if you don't have explicit permission, you really shouldn't do it. Arguing "fan-fic" doesn't over-ride original ownership.

The debates here usually end with the chorus, "Write your own work, don't pinch somebody else's."

So you’re saying I shouldn’t have plagiarized the entirety for my upcoming story?

 

[Tio_Narratore]

So you’re saying I shouldn’t have plagiarized the entirety for my upcoming story?

Well, I guess if you thought of plagiarizing it, it is your idea.

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

Even if you could get past the ethical and legal issues, which are insurmountable absent explicit consent of the author, who has the time?

 

[Vix_Giovanni]

It seems that he has departed from the internet.

I have spent nearly 15 years trying to contact him and there has been no luck.

In fact, I contact his last known, email address as well as the websites that it was posted on, and the last author who tried to tried to finish his work.

All three addresses:
turned up deadends.

This story would be under the fanfiction format, and would be stated as such.

In fact, someone actually did finish the story, under the following title:

However, you cannot find this title anywhere.

It has been one story that has been waiting to be finished. Any so far it seems that the author is no longer around to do it. However, it's one that needs to be completed. Mainly due to the fact that it has been passed around the net so many times with everyone getting paid from it. It is unfair that he ever finished the story.

So much so, that the only other James Dawson's has said that it isn't even his story, and wants nothing to do with it.

I want to make sure that this great author gets his. Even if it's a work of fanfiction.

Also, this is not a scam.

Please read the site and forum rules and remove the author’s personal email addresses.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Please read the site and forum rules and remove the author’s personal email addresses.

The post has been reported, the AHMod will be along soon.

 

[Hypoxia]

The post has been reported, the AHMod will be along soon.

The same post is on Story Ideas and yes, I reported it.

 

[jennypclicker_8675309]

Hello I had no intention of stealing anyone work. I have been a loyal member of this site for almost 20 years.

If that is how it came off, sorry. Please accept my apology. I will never ask for this again.

Also, you don't have to be so harsh to someone, if this was their first post, and threaten them with reporting to admin.

I promise you, I will never ask for this again, or for that matter post anything again, since this was the response I received.

The idea was for a fan-fiction continuation, if that felt like theft, then I am sorry.

I promise you, I will no longer be asking for anything or posting anything again.

 

[Voboy]

Hello I had no intention of stealing anyone work. I have been a loyal member of this site for almost 20 years.

If that is how it came off, sorry. Please accept my apology. I will never ask for this again.

Also, you don't have to be so harsh to someone, if this was their first post, and threaten them with reporting to admin.

I promise you, I will never ask for this again, or for that matter post anything again, since this was the response I received.

The idea was for a fan-fiction continuation, if that felt like theft, then I am sorry.

I promise you, I will no longer be asking for anything or posting anything again.

Might’ve been your first post, but..

1. This is the 5,972nd thread of this sort.

2. First post or millionth, ethics is ethics.

 

[SimonDoom]

While I agree it's not appropriate to do what the OP proposes to do without the original author's permission, 2 things need to be said:

1. The OP made clear she's new, so it's fair to give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't know the rules. This Site does a poor job of consolidating the rules in one, easy place so everyone can get up to speed quickly. I still get confused after almost three years. People should be careful about chiding her too much for not knowing the rules.

2. The ethics of this seem clear to those who've been around for a while, perhaps, but they're not really that obvious. The site has a whole category for, and encourages, fan fiction, and it's hard to distinguish in principle allowing fan fiction but not what she was interested in doing here.

We have a habit on this forum of scaring away newbies unnecessarily. That's not something to feel proud of.

 

[MetaBob]

Hello I had no intention of stealing anyone work. I have been a loyal member of this site for almost 20 years.

If that is how it came off, sorry. Please accept my apology. I will never ask for this again.

Also, you don't have to be so harsh to someone, if this was their first post, and threaten them with reporting to admin.

I promise you, I will never ask for this again, or for that matter post anything again, since this was the response I received.

The idea was for a fan-fiction continuation, if that felt like theft, then I am sorry.

I promise you, I will no longer be asking for anything or posting anything again.

What Simon said. I was going to post something similar but he beat me to it. This place can be harsh, especially to first-time posters, whether right or wrong. Lots of other places on the internet are the same way ... people feel like they have to show the new arrival who's really in the know, and can pile on about it. As if you, the new poster even if you've been frequenting the site as a consumer for years, have to earn acceptance by first getting treated harshly.

I ask that you not refrain from posting again, just merely spend a little more time checking out the rules of the fora. I can't (and won't) apologize for the conduct of those who treated you most rudely, that's something those individuals will have to do themselves, but I understand how you could feel burned. And don't let the grammar nazis get you down.

But also understand that people here have no choice but to report posts to admin when they violate forum rules, whether the author of those posts broke rules knowingly or not.

Best,
-MɛtaBob

 

[Vix_Giovanni]

I really hate to get into these kinds of things. In part, because this is an online forum and tone and intent are sometimes difficult to interpret and come across as harsh when they’re not meant to. But mainly, because as a newbie to the forum (somewhat less of a newbie now), I’ve many times been on the receiving end of the described harshness: the snarky and passively aggressive comments, dismissiveness and sometimes just flat out ignoring.

I’ve been here long enough to agree with SD that there seems to be an unfortunate habit of scaring newbies away: in my short time writing, I’ve seen a handful of writers fall off from this forum and I myself took a long break to stay away from the fray. I’ve seen that other posters edit their comments to delete huge chunks. Personally, I review and re-review everything I post, and then often just delete because I don’t feel comfortable putting my thoughts and opinions under this forum’s microscope.

But, I’ve also read the rules of the site and the forum. I read them before I joined and posted. They do require a little searching, but not much more of a search than finding anything else on Literotica. And specific to this scenario, a search far less intense than finding the multiple personal email addresses of another author.

And thus, to me, this thread seems an odd catalyst for this observation and scolding about a general unwelcoming attitude harboring the Author’s Hangout. The OP was asking to do something that most writers agree is largely unethical, or at least unseemly; other writers advised her of such. The OP posted multiple personal email addresses and external site links; I’m one of many posters who advised her this isn’t allowed by the Literotica rules. The OP’s question provoked other, very reasonable, questions about whether she’d gotten the author’s permission to continue his work. Finally, the OP offered to edit; the alleged “Grammar Nazis” showed her the mistakes in her post and explained what was grammatically incorrect.

Being corrected stinks. And when you’re corrected because you actually are wrong... well, that really burns the soul. No one likes it. But here, I would argue that the thread’s tenor was far from rude and the information given was helpful for next time.

jennypclicker, I, too, definitely hope you come back. Cause one mistake (and especially, a small mistake) certainly doesn’t make you or anyone a persona non grata. As someone who’s also felt like such in this forum, I hope you’ll come back and read this encouragement, read the site and forum rules (which are in a sticky above these threads!) and post again.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

What Simon said. I was going to post something similar but he beat me to it. This place can be harsh, especially to first-time posters, whether right or wrong. Lots of other places on the internet are the same way ... people feel like they have to show the new arrival who's really in the know, and can pile on about it. As if you, the new poster even if you've been frequenting the site as a consumer for years, have to earn acceptance by first getting treated harshly.

I ask that you not refrain from posting again, just merely spend a little more time checking out the rules of the fora. I can't (and won't) apologize for the conduct of those who treated you most rudely, that's something those individuals will have to do themselves, but I understand how you could feel burned. And don't let the grammar nazis get you down.

But also understand that people here have no choice but to report posts to admin when they violate forum rules, whether the author of those posts broke rules knowingly or not.

Best,
-MɛtaBob

I'm not going to argue about tone, but I will say these two things: 1) Bramblethorn raised a valid question, and 2) if you're going to assert experience in editing, and offer to edit the product you're seeking, it's not helpful to have so many grammatical errors in your post.

Other than those things, yes I hope the OP sticks around, and even writes some of their own stuff. I lurked on the boards here for a while before I posted the first time, and it did help some. But getting into the fray and getting reponses brought out the various regulars' personalites more.

 

[ElectricBlue]

1. The OP made clear she's new, so it's fair to give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't know the rules. This Site does a poor job of consolidating the rules in one, easy place so everyone can get up to speed quickly. I still get confused after almost three years. People should be careful about chiding her too much for not knowing the rules.

But she's not new on Lit - two decades by her own admission, maybe just as a reader not as a forum denizen but still, twenty years.

Not posting emails (let alone three) is fundamental netiquette, in any place, and has been for, well, at least twenty years.

Originally Posted by jennypclicker_8675309 View Post
I have been a loyal member of this site for almost 20 years.

 

[SimonDoom]

But she's not new on Lit - two decades by her own admission, maybe just as a reader not as a forum denizen but still, twenty years.

Not posting emails (let alone three) is fundamental netiquette, in any place, and has been for, well, at least twenty years.

I'll put it this way. Imagine the conversation isn't online. Imagine someone has asked you a question and you're trying to answer it -- in person.

You'd answer it graciously, probably. You'd probably assume it's made in good faith, even if you might secretly think she's being foolish. You don't need to let her know you think she's being foolish to answer her question and to be helpful.

To be honest most of the responses to her were straightforward and snark-free. But it doesn't take much to drive people unaccustomed to interacting here away. People have sensitive skins. I see that even among the very experienced among us on this forum.

 

[ChloeTzang]

....Other than those things, yes I hope the OP sticks around, and even writes some of their own stuff. I lurked on the boards here for a while before I posted the first time, and it did help some. But getting into the fray and getting reponses brought out the various regulars' personalites more.

Yes and yes. It can be a bit disheartening when your first eager and bushy-tailed posts bring down a negative response. Kudos to the OP for asking and being interested. Some of you probably remember my early faux-pas when I was first here, so I have a lot of tolerance for innocently asked questions.

The rules here are pretty obscure sometimes and not all of us are as good at tracking them down as others are. So I figure do unto others as you’d like done unto oneself. Be nice and give people the benefit of the doubt.