Long, rambling, pointless thread

[Kim_Burly]

I'm apologize in advance for what follows. I have so many thoughts, emotions and questions that I am overwhelmed, unlike many here, I'm not a veteran BDSM player so I'll admit I'm confused. Sir and I recently became Master and Mistress to a married couple. This came completely out of the blue, for me at least. Anyhow, initially Sir and I agreed with each other that we would not have sex with this woman (couple) to keep our relationship monogamous. I trusted Sir to help me live up to this pledge. Unfortunately, in a moment of weakness, he caved and we both used her extensively. I punished her with a cane, crop, paddle and flogger and she serviced me. I got my first rim job that night !Sir took her in everyway possible, while her husband/Master watched. His only relief that nice was very humiliating, but he was grateful.

Let me go back, after our initial "meeting" where I spanked her bare-bottom over the knee at a small dinner party, the next week, we got together for dinner and talked. They wanted to be our subs, they would both be fully available to both of us. Well I will never have another man and even if Sir ordered me to, I wouldn't do it, we would be over. What the husband really wants is to have sex with Sir. He said he would suck Sir and take Sir in his back door with absolutely no obligation for it to go the other way. Sir has no interest in that, so he flat out said no. He did let him eat Lynn (his wife) after he had taken her and he gave him a facial after Lynn had blown him, but that was as far was he was willing to go. Until yesterday that is, Sir and Steve (our male sub) collect the same thing. Weekend bore last, Steve showed Sir a very rare, desirable piece that Sir instantly fell in love with. Monday, he said he would give it to him if he would allow him the aforementioned privileges. Sir is going to pay fair market value for the piece, but he will sodomize Steve and allow him to blow him . I am not looking forward to that!

So, one of my concerns is that when we met this couple, he was her Master. I must say, he has her well trained and she is a very obedient slave. But now, they are both subs to us with Sir being the Master over all of us. I worry how this will affect their relationship. They are both seemingly very eager, but how can they go from a M/s relationship to being equal subs? Will this damage their relationship? As much as I have with Lynn being my bitch, I don't want to harm their marriage in any way.

Second, if she is my sub, as Sir tells me she is, shouldn't I be allowed to tell her if and when she can masturbate? Sir has all of us under a no sex/masturbation directive. I met with Lynn in her home, as friends (I really, really like her as a friend) but she was naked the whole time, served me and stood or sat at the floor at my feet, my choice, but we could have no intimate contact. Sir has given me a lot of control over her, some fun things, some mundane, but if she is my property, I should be able to grant her sexual pleasure, shouldn't I?

Then there is poor Steve, neither I or Sir really want much to do with topping him. We have put him at the bottom of the pecking order, under Lynn, so she can keep an him honest. Will he lose interest and become dissatisfied?

As much fun as I am having, I would rather bail on this whole thing rather than harming or destroying either relationship. Again, I'm sorry, but having written this out, I feel a little better.

 

[Netzach]

I think you should let Lynn and Steve worry about Lynn and Steve, honestly. If they're not happy about him as the uber-bitch to everyone, that's their job to communicate isn't it? He does sound pretty manipulative and not all that super duper submissive. Like you said, he was in charge for a while, but I get the sense this guy is a pushy power bottom with a serious cock sucking fantasy that will probably not quietly go away after one session. My heart isn't exactly bleeding for Steve.

As for your other query, got me, I can't fathom anyone being able to dictate how I run the "running my show" show...makes my head hurt just trying to imagine. It's not that I'm so Dominant I can't handle it, I just can't deal with that many moving parts. When I'm working someone *I* am working them, full stop, or I'm doing a favor for a friend and I'm not going to whine about their limits on their sub.

Your D and you need to communicate and sort this stuff out. Either he needs to give you carte blanche or you need to buck up and follow your orders.

If you are primarily a Domme then he needs to back off and let you "do you" and if you are primarily a sub, you need to do what you're told and not pull the "but I should be able to control this!" card. Lynn is, in that case, the same as any other set of directions, and limited as your Dom says. What I'd want if I had some kind of a little sex unit running under me would be for the person in your situation to tell me that the other person performed really well, and it's your opinion that they earned a sexual reward, but that it's up to me.

 

[Kim_Burly]

I think you should let Lynn and Steve worry about Lynn and Steve, honestly. If they're not happy about him as the uber-bitch to everyone, that's their job to communicate isn't it? He does sound pretty manipulative and not all that super duper submissive. Like you said, he was in charge for a while, but I get the sense this guy is a pushy power bottom with a serious cock sucking fantasy that will probably not quietly go away after one session. My heart isn't exactly bleeding for Steve.

As for your other query, got me, I can't fathom anyone being able to dictate how I run the "running my show" show...makes my head hurt just trying to imagine. It's not that I'm so Dominant I can't handle it, I just can't deal with that many moving parts. When I'm working someone *I* am working them, full stop, or I'm doing a favor for a friend and I'm not going to whine about their limits on their sub.

Your D and you need to communicate and sort this stuff out. Either he needs to give you carte blanche or you need to buck up and follow your orders.



If you are primarily a Domme then he needs to back off and let you "do you" and if you are primarily a sub, you need to do what you're told and not pull the "but I should be able to control this!" card. Lynn is, in that case, the same as any other set of directions, and limited as your Dom says. What I'd want if I had some kind of a little sex unit running under me would be for the person in your situation to tell me that the other person performed really well, and it's your opinion that they earned a sexual reward, but that it's up to me.

Netzach: You're right, I am 100% Sir's sub, it's just that is new to me and to have a beautiful woman, that is 10 years older than me, kneeling prostrate naked at my feet, the feeling is euphoric, as you well know. But I must follow the chain of command dictated by Sir, otherwise, what am I, a disobedient sub . We have talked it to death, I am just giddy with my little bit of authority over Lynn and I am overplaying my hand . Tis stuff is crazy, but I think it's worth it.

On the other hand, I can't be as blasé as you about Steve and Lynn's marriage. They have been married 25 years and I don't want to come along and screw that up for some cheap thrill. Call me naïve, but I hope someone else would have the same respect for Sir and my relationship. Thanks, Kim

BTW, I just looked up Netzach, how apropos.

 

[Netzach]

Netzach: You're right, I am 100% Sir's sub, it's just that is new to me and to have a beautiful woman, that is 10 years older than me, kneeling prostrate naked at my feet, the feeling is euphoric, as you well know. But I must follow the chain of command dictated by Sir, otherwise, what am I, a disobedient sub . We have talked it to death, I am just giddy with my little bit of authority over Lynn and I am overplaying my hand . Tis stuff is crazy, but I think it's worth it.

On the other hand, I can't be as blasé as you about Steve and Lynn's marriage. They have been married 25 years and I don't want to come along and screw that up for some cheap thrill. Call me naïve, but I hope someone else would have the same respect for Sir and my relationship. Thanks, Kim

BTW, I just looked up Netzach, how apropos.

Ok, that's cool. How well do you know them outside of sex? Are you sure that they're not in a state of "wow we're stagnating after 25 years" and trying to shake things up? Are you sure that Steve hasn't given her some kind of ultimatum of "I'm a bi bottom and I'm losing my shit completely doing your fantasy of being my slave now for umpteen years, it's my turn to get a break from power"

I understand wanting to tread carefully, but if you don't know, you just don't know.

 

[Primalex]

My random thoughts:

If they are grown-up adults, their relationship is their problem. If they are not, you shouldn't play with them anyway. You are not using unfair tricks to entice them to do stuff they don't want to do (as far as I can tell).


Subbie boys are...exhausting. I doubt you can keep him out of the equation. He will try everything to get his share - and obviously he found a way now.


Funny question of the day: As Sir is willing to sell his body for some item, would he sell yours, too, for the right item? If he can't sell your body because it would hurt your relationship, why can he sell his without hurting it?

 

[Kim_Burly]

My random thoughts:

If they are grown-up adults, their relationship is their problem. If they are not, you shouldn't play with them anyway. You are not using unfair tricks to entice them to do stuff they don't want to do (as far as I can tell).


Subbie boys are...exhausting. I doubt you can keep him out of the equation. He will try everything to get his share - and obviously he found a way now.


Funny question of the day: As Sir is willing to sell his body for some item, would he sell yours, too, for the right item? If he can't sell your body because it would hurt your relationship, why can he sell his without hurting it?

Funny answer of the day: It's not that Sir has any moral objection to Steve sucking him off, i's just that honestly, he's just repulsed by the thought of a person, that is not a woman sucking his cock. I completely understand, I don't mean to be all judgmental, but to be honest the thought of watching that isn't the least bit appealing (sorry). I'll just take Lynn in another room while that is going on.

They are a great couple and I can see us becoming good friends. Lynn is not only my sub, but someone I can honestly confide in, which is great for me since I have a strong need to emote and blab. I can tell her the hard core stuff that would freak other people out and she understands. We also have a similar need for pain, pain threshold and enjoyment of humiliation.

Steve and Sir have two similar interests, but I think Sir has a hard time respecting a male who wants Sir to take him in the butt. He's not homophobic, but it rubs him the wrong way, so to speak. He's adjusting to the idea, we've all talked about it very frankly, and we have agreed to just take it one step at a time. I think offering him the item was a brilliant idea. Sir fell in love with it the moment he saw it. It is rare, in excellent shape and it has all of the paperwork documenting the story behind it. He didn't compromise his principles, he just decided to let a male suck him. He has already made it clear to Steve that Sir will not reciprocate the oral or the anal, but he really doesn't need to, Lynn is well equipped to handle that, if Sir allows it.

As far as what he would make me do, I'm not concerned. He started this whole thing in order to fulfill a fantasy of mine. He has told me if I choose to, we will eject from the relationship at any time. He has things that he demands 100% control of and obedience on, some other things he is very laize faire about.

OK, so it wasn't a funny answer, sue me. We are all going downtown tonight, it's going to be wild, I am going to hurt my bitch and wear her out!


Thanks, Love Kim

 

[Netzach]

I'm just completely unable to grok not wanting to watch male on male action, especially knowing someone's incredibly uncomfortable but not so much so that he's not gonna do it, but it takes all kinds.

 

[intothewoods]

I'm just completely unable to grok not wanting to watch male on male action, especially knowing someone's incredibly uncomfortable but not so much so that he's not gonna do it, but it takes all kinds.

Yeah, I don't really get this myself. He's repulsed by it, but he'll do it because he wants something or other in exchange? I mean, how repulsed can he be?

 

[Keroin]

I'm just completely unable to grok not wanting to watch male on male action, especially knowing someone's incredibly uncomfortable but not so much so that he's not gonna do it, but it takes all kinds.

Ya, I'm not a PYL but even I would find that burning hot.

Yeah, I don't really get this myself. He's repulsed by it, but he'll do it because he wants something or other in exchange? I mean, how repulsed can he be?

You could give L the fishing boat of his dreams and he wouldn't do it.

 

[Primalex]

I think offering him the item was a brilliant idea.

Interesting wording.

He didn't compromise his principles, he just decided to let a male suck him.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

I'm not even going to comment on the serious potential for drama/disaster presented in this scenario. It's part of your learning curve and those lessons will have to be learned the hard way.

Regarding your particular situation and the hierarchy of the relationships.

Consider yourself in the position of the VP of a company. Or as the executive officer/1st Mate of a military commander/ship captain.

You are the right hand of The Boss, and The Boss is who you answer to. You are the boss of everyone else in the situation. The Boss sez "no sexy for the company!" then no sexy for the company. If The Boss sez: "No sexy for you, but the minions can haz the sexy." Then that flies. If The Boss sez: "I don't care either way." then you can decide if one or the other or both can have some fun. Verstehen Sie?

 

[Kim_Burly]

I'm done explaining/defending/rationalizing any of this. Life is meant to be lived, not mused over.

Friday night the four of us went out for a nice dinner and went back to Steve and Lynn's house. After sir and I had some fun with Lynn Steve came downstairs in garter belts and stockings and a baby doll . Awkward! After a couple rounds of drinks for the three of them Steve started sucking off Sir. He appeared to be doing a good job, but he couldn't get a rise out of Sir. So we moved to plan B, Lynn fluffed Sir and then he stuck it in Steve's butt. He claimed to be a virgin, but the way he took Sir's thick one, I have my doubts. So after about 5 minutes of brutal pounding, Steve fills the condom he's wearing, big time. Only then does he realize that being dressed as a woman, (body shaved, wig, make-up, the whole deal), being ass fucked in the missionary position, by a big German man that is completely berating and degrading him as his wife watches and I film the event, really isn't all that erotic. Sir used him like a bitch, he put Steve's knees next to his ears and just pounded him as hard as he could. Five minutes later, Sir filled Steve up and pulled out. After his orgasm Steve wasn't really in the mood for clean-up duties, which included gulping down a large amount of his own semen from the condom he was wearing, but before too long he was interested again and wanted to be put into a chastity device.

I don't know who designed this thing, but it must have been made for a small man because even flaccid Lynn really had to work to get him all stuffed in there and locked with a numbered plastic seal. I bet Sir that he won't make it two days in the stupid thing. Besides being hard to clean yourself up, he has to sit down to pee and it doesn't look at all comfortable. Sir thinks he'll make it to Thursday and Lynn thinks he'll be true blue . All in all, it wasn't as hard to watch as I thought it would be, yes, it was two men, well one man and one transvestite. In any case, the elements of domination, degradation and humiliation did make it somewhat erotic. Had the roles been reversed I would have been disgusted and walked and not turned back, but Lynn took it in stride.

That's the bad and the ugly. The good part, and what was ultimately Sir's end game was that shortly after locking up Steve in his little device, we took Lynn home with us for the night, leaving Steve behind . We got home around midnight and we used Lynn like a blow-up doll for the next two hours. In the morning I kicked her out of bed and told her to make us breakfast. Then we took her to the basement and tied her to the St. Andrews cross where I beat the crap out of her. Sir strapped her into his antique gynecological table and had some wicked fun with her. Steve came and picked her up late in the afternoon. I'm sore from working her so hard, I know she's feeling it now. I talked to her today and we agreed it was the craziest 24 hours that either one of us has ever been through. She and Steve both loved every minute of it and want to continue. Sir has a great idea that could take Steve off of our hands and leave us with Lynn mainly as our own little private toy, while Steve gets what he wants. This is some crazy, wacky stuff for nerdy old Kim, what a ride. I never thought I had an inner sadist in me, but torturing, humiliating and making Lynn grovel is soooo erotic. I learn something new about myself all the time.

 

[Keroin]

I'm done explaining/defending/rationalizing any of this. Life is meant to be lived, not mused over.

Going to chirp about this a bit because I'm in the mood for it. Sorry for the hijack. Some of my points are general, some are specific. (I feel rambly today).

Since I've joined Lit, I've seen this scenario more times than I can count: Someone posts something about their personal life (usually in the form of a question), and when the responses don't match what they wanted to hear, or what they imagined they would hear, they make an announcement of some sort stating that they don't want to hear any more. Anger level varies.

I've mulled this over and what I see is this...

For most of us, when something thrilling/new/amazing happens, especially if that something stirs our hearts or our nether regions, we want to share it with the world. We want to shout it from the rooftops! That's a natural, healthy reaction to joy. In a mainstream relationship, we have many outlets for this - friends, family, co-workers. Cross into any kind of kink, though, and the audience dwindles.

Enter the online kink community.

For the most part, you will find a welcome and understanding audience on this board (well, the General forum being the exception). The problem with posting details of your personal life to a group of strangers in a public forum, however, is that these people have no vested interest in your well being or in sparing your feelings. Your real life friends would take pains not to insult or hurt you because they (usually) want to remain friends. Online people will tell you the truth, as they see it, whether it pisses you off/hurts you or not. Which, by the way, can be helpful sometimes, if you're open to it.

You (general you) don't have to listen or care about what is said in this forum but, by the same token, the other posters do not have to shut up, either. If you don't want opinions from all and sundry, don't post your thoughts publicly. It's as simple as that.

Kim, reading between the lines, what I see is that you have entered into a new relationship that is curling your toes with excitement and happiness, so much so that it's bursting out of you. Good for you and enjoy! Beginnings are a special kind of wonderful.

What you need to bear in mind is that folks here (the regulars in particular) tend to be analytical and language-focused. As well, many have either "been there done that" or they've seen these types of posts about a billionty times. Text is a poor medium to convey emotions, especially the subtle ones, so it will be easy to read some responses as snarky. Most aren't, just FYI.

As an example, your assertion that your Sir is "repulsed" by being with a man. I think this is really just semantics. Your descriptions of his actions suggest that he is "uncomfortable" or "not turned on". And that's fine. Repulsed is a strong word, one that indicates to the reader that nothing short of force could make him engage in the act. For example, I am very uncomfortable with any kind of electric play. This means I will avoid it but it is not impossible that I would consent to it under certain circumstances. I am repulsed by scat play. Nothing but non-consensual physical force would make me engage in scat play. In other words, sexual assault. See the difference?

I think I understand what you are trying to say but one word can drastically change everyone's interpretation. And even if he says he is "repulsed", it just means that he is also using the wrong word to describe his feelings. No biggie, as the kids say.

What matters is that everyone is an adult and is having consensual fun. This may all work out perfectly or it could end in a spectacular drama explosion. Geoff is completely correct when he says this is part of your learning curve. We can throw out all the advice we want but, ultimately, you will do what you want to do. As it should be. My only caution would be that you don't let that very natural self defense reaction (the one that kicks in when you think someone's trying to spoil all your fun) stop you from actually reading and considering the words of those like Geoff and Netz who have "been there done that".

I wish Homburg was around, too. He always had lots of good advice about NRE. (New relationship energy).

Anyway, that is all. Carry on. Have fun. Play safe.

 

[Netzach]

Ok, so let me get this right. Primalex and I both said you're really overthinking it, so we're overthinking it, and furthermore men submitting is gross and loathsome (like I don't have to listen to this every time I log onto lit BDSM) and so you've got a great way to get Steve out of your hair and you're all finally figuring out how to just accept the dude's obvious emotional masochism and actually exploit it for everyone's benefit, including his.

So what's the question again? Or is this mostly "dominating girls is hawt submissive men are GROSS" v. 8million.4?

 

[BiBunny]

So what's the question again? Or is this mostly "dominating girls is hawt submissive men are GROSS" v. 8million.4?

Yes..

 

[Kim_Burly]

To Goeff: Yes, you're right on both points. The potential for drama is infinite. I would go so far as to say that with four people in a messed up D/s relationship, it is inevitable. On your second point, it's the chain of command, I understand it, but I don't have to like it . Thanks for putting me at the VP spot. I was thinking more like administrative assistant.

My original post was just me trying to talk it out. I'm not a expert at this game like many here are. I'm still amazed at what goes on inside the human mind, especially my own.

I have always found the female form to be the zenith of art in nature. I was never really attracted to women, but as a wannabe feminist, I "knew" the correct path to follow was to become a lesbian and I had no problem with that. Unfortunately for me my mentor n college either wasn't patient or looking back, with what I now know, she may have been a Domme. In any case she came on way too strong (she assaulted me 3 times) and that ended my lesbian career before it ever got started.

I can only speak for myself in saying that seeing a naked man, even a beautiful ripped/well equipped model, doesn't arouse me much, unless I have feelings for him. To me, every square inch of Sir's body is beautiful and arousing. So no, seeing two men cavorting isn't highest on my list of turn-ons. If you go back and read what I said, I did say that I found the D/s aspect of it arousing.

You want to know the arrangement that "gets Steve out of our hair"? The very first night the three couples got together Sir and Steve had conspired on the guest list. I believe that plan was always that Sir and I would get Lynn and Steve would go with the other couple. As it turns out, coincidentally, the husband in the other couple is bi and they like M/F/M. I guess the problem now is that he is not a Top and clearly Steve is a sub, I guess you would say.

So there you have it. I was the one being played all along, but I see the wisdom of Sir's and Steve's plan and I don't think Lynn and I have anything to be angry about. I can't speak for the other couple, they have been approached, but to my understanding nothing has transpired yet. I apologize in advance for whatever I have said that is offensive to whomever.

 

[intothewoods]

Going to chirp about this a bit because I'm in the mood for it. Sorry for the hijack. Some of my points are general, some are specific. (I feel rambly today).

Since I've joined Lit, I've seen this scenario more times than I can count: Someone posts something about their personal life (usually in the form of a question), and when the responses don't match what they wanted to hear, or what they imagined they would hear, they make an announcement of some sort stating that they don't want to hear any more. Anger level varies.

I've mulled this over and what I see is this...

For most of us, when something thrilling/new/amazing happens, especially if that something stirs our hearts or our nether regions, we want to share it with the world. We want to shout it from the rooftops! That's a natural, healthy reaction to joy. In a mainstream relationship, we have many outlets for this - friends, family, co-workers. Cross into any kind of kink, though, and the audience dwindles.

Enter the online kink community.

For the most part, you will find a welcome and understanding audience on this board (well, the General forum being the exception). The problem with posting details of your personal life to a group of strangers in a public forum, however, is that these people have no vested interest in your well being or in sparing your feelings. Your real life friends would take pains not to insult or hurt you because they (usually) want to remain friends. Online people will tell you the truth, as they see it, whether it pisses you off/hurts you or not. Which, by the way, can be helpful sometimes, if you're open to it.

You (general you) don't have to listen or care about what is said in this forum but, by the same token, the other posters do not have to shut up, either. If you don't want opinions from all and sundry, don't post your thoughts publicly. It's as simple as that.

Kim, reading between the lines, what I see is that you have entered into a new relationship that is curling your toes with excitement and happiness, so much so that it's bursting out of you. Good for you and enjoy! Beginnings are a special kind of wonderful.

What you need to bear in mind is that folks here (the regulars in particular) tend to be analytical and language-focused. As well, many have either "been there done that" or they've seen these types of posts about a billionty times. Text is a poor medium to convey emotions, especially the subtle ones, so it will be easy to read some responses as snarky. Most aren't, just FYI.

As an example, your assertion that your Sir is "repulsed" by being with a man. I think this is really just semantics. Your descriptions of his actions suggest that he is "uncomfortable" or "not turned on". And that's fine. Repulsed is a strong word, one that indicates to the reader that nothing short of force could make him engage in the act. For example, I am very uncomfortable with any kind of electric play. This means I will avoid it but it is not impossible that I would consent to it under certain circumstances. I am repulsed by scat play. Nothing but non-consensual physical force would make me engage in scat play. In other words, sexual assault. See the difference?

I think I understand what you are trying to say but one word can drastically change everyone's interpretation. And even if he says he is "repulsed", it just means that he is also using the wrong word to describe his feelings. No biggie, as the kids say.

What matters is that everyone is an adult and is having consensual fun. This may all work out perfectly or it could end in a spectacular drama explosion. Geoff is completely correct when he says this is part of your learning curve. We can throw out all the advice we want but, ultimately, you will do what you want to do. As it should be. My only caution would be that you don't let that very natural self defense reaction (the one that kicks in when you think someone's trying to spoil all your fun) stop you from actually reading and considering the words of those like Geoff and Netz who have "been there done that".

I wish Homburg was around, too. He always had lots of good advice about NRE. (New relationship energy).

Anyway, that is all. Carry on. Have fun. Play safe.

This is so kindly stated and so spot on. Seriously!

Ok, so let me get this right. Primalex and I both said you're really overthinking it, so we're overthinking it, and furthermore men submitting is gross and loathsome (like I don't have to listen to this every time I log onto lit BDSM) and so you've got a great way to get Steve out of your hair and you're all finally figuring out how to just accept the dude's obvious emotional masochism and actually exploit it for everyone's benefit, including his.

So what's the question again? Or is this mostly "dominating girls is hawt submissive men are GROSS" v. 8million.4?

I have always found the female form to be the zenith of art in nature. I was never really attracted to women, but as a wannabe feminist, I "knew" the correct path to follow was to become a lesbian and I had no problem with that. Unfortunately for me my mentor n college either wasn't patient or looking back, with what I now know, she may have been a Domme. In any case she came on way too strong (she assaulted me 3 times) and that ended my lesbian career before it ever got started.

What??? How old are you - when were you in college? I am a feminist and have been one practically since I learned the word. I've never once been presented with the idea that the correct path is to become a lesbian. In fact, my anecdotal unscientific experience has always been that lesbians aren't so interested in my femme straight self. Better luck with the bi women, but barely! In any event, it's not your fault Kim but I feel like I am always coming across posters on Lit who are in some strange universe where apparently feminists are in charge. And yet my world is not anything like that.

 

[Keroin]

This is so kindly stated and so spot on. Seriously!

It's amazing the places my brain goes when I am trying to avoid copy editing.

And thanks. I was striving for "kind", it doesn't always work out.

 

[midwestyankee]

It's amazing the places my brain goes when I am trying to avoid copy editing.

And thanks. I was striving for "kind", it doesn't always work out.

I agree that it was kindly and eloquently stated. A good chunk of that post - all the universal portions - ought to be a sticky somewhere.

 

[Keroin]

I agree that it was kindly and eloquently stated. A good chunk of that post - all the universal portions - ought to be a sticky somewhere.

Thanks MWY! I was actually thinking it would be a good idea to have an NRE type thread. Somewhere for folks who need an outlet for all that bursting excitement that is bound to elicit some unintentional snark from all the crotchety old snarksters on here. (I count myself in this number, BTW).

 

[midwestyankee]

Thanks MWY! I was actually thinking it would be a good idea to have an NRE type thread. Somewhere for folks who need an outlet for all that bursting excitement that is bound to elicit some unintentional snark from all the crotchety old snarksters on here. (I count myself in this number, BTW).

Ahem, child of the 70s (when I was finishing college), you aren't a "crotchety old" anything. You can't be because I'm not, yet.

 

[Dyslexicea]

Thanks MWY! I was actually thinking it would be a good idea to have an NRE type thread. Somewhere for folks who need an outlet for all that bursting excitement that is bound to elicit some unintentional snark from all the crotchety old snarksters on here. (I count myself in this number, BTW).

I think your post was not just good but brilliant.

 

[Kim_Burly]

I realize that of late, probably since the beginning I have acted like a spoiled, conceited, 18 year old attention whore here. "Oooo look at me, I stopped drinking, I lost weight, I'm engaged to Mr. Perfect, blah, blah, blah". I apologize.