Logic free zone:

[Lisa Denton]

The only restriction I noticed on this thread is that it is to be ”logic free”.

Still, you fellows are complaining that the thread is "boring and lifeless" because of this one tiny restriction.

A more "logical" reaction would be to stay out of a "logic free" thread if you MUST forever be so ballockingly logical!

Somehow, your complaint just doesn't seem quite logical to me.

So, I guess it DOES belong in this thread after all

If any of this analysis betrays the slightest use of logic, I apologize.

Sounds logical to me.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

So, can I employ Reason yet... this is uncomfortable.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

So, can I employ Reason yet... this is uncomfortable.

There's nothing wrong with REASON Joe.

Just try to keep your Log-o-matic Shredder & Spreader off this thread.

Okay?

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Originally posted by Virtual_Burlesque
There's nothing wrong with REASON Joe.

Just try to keep your Log-o-matic Shredder & Spreader off this thread.

Okay?

But... they're... the... same... thing....phew.
I can't play this game.

 

[minsue]

I can see where having people trying to save your soul would drive you nuts, but I don’t experience that much. I just don’t deal with people like that.

A while ago I was checking out of the grocery store and this woman standing at the end of the register asked me, “Pardon me, but are you Jewish?”

I said, “Sure,” and she started to tell me about this Rabbi who was predicting the end of the world and calling for all Jews to get right with God. I was totally shocked.

I said, “Lady, I’m not that Jewish”, and walked away from her.

I was shocked because Jews never, ever proseletyze like that. The Missionary ideal is totally foreign to Judaism, a religon in which people are actually talked out of converting. That’s a holdover from the middle ages where a Jew could be killed for converting a Christian.

So when the Mormons or Witnesses come to my door, I just tell them I’m not interested, because I’m not. Talking to these people is like talking to a third-grader. Their idea of religion is just so childish, like a fairy-tale. I don’t know how anyone can believe that stuff, but I make a distinction between their fairy tales and the idea of religion itself.

I guess to me, rejecting religion based on what these people think is like rejecting literature because you don’t like fairy tales.

---dr.M.

I don't reject religion because of the thoughts or actions of some religious followers. I fear religion because of the thoughts and actions of them.

I reject religion for the simple reason that I do not believe in a deity.

 

[Seattle Zack]

Let's check in with our celebrity panel ......

"If we are going to teach creation science as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction."
— Judith Hayes

"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility."
— Sigmund Freud

"The beauty of religious mania is that it has the power to explain everything. Once God (or Satan) is accepted as the first cause of everything which happens in the mortal world, nothing is left to chance . . . logic can be happily tossed out the window."
— Stephen King

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
— Stephen Roberts

"If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane."
— Robert Green Ingersoll

"History does not record anywhere or at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without any help. But, like dandruff, most people have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it."
— Robert A. Heinlein

"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man — living in the sky — who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But he loves you."
— George Carlin

"Here's another question I've been pondering ~ what is all this shit about angels? Have you heard this? Three out of four people believe in angels. Are you fucking stupid? Has everybody lost their mind? You know what I think it is? I think it's a massive, collective, psychotic chemical flashback for all the drugs smoked, swallowed, shot and absorbed rectally by all Americans from 1960 to 1990. Thirty years of street drugs will get you some fucking angels, my friend!"
— George Carlin

"I say if you're going to go for the angel bullshit, you might as well go for the zombie package as well."
— George Carlin

"Faith is believing what you know ain't so. It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me — it's the parts that I do understand! Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness . . . It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light . . . by contrast. [The Bible is] a mass of fables and traditions — mere mythology. If there is a god, he is a malign thug."
— Samuel Langhorne Clemens

"If you want to get together in any exclusive situation and have people love you, fine — but to hang all this desperate sociology on the idea of a Cloud-Guy who has The Big Book, who knows if you've been bad or good — and CARES about any of it — to hang it all on that, folks, is the chimpanzee part of the brain working."
— Frank Zappa

"When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way . . . so, I stole one and asked Him to forgive me."
— Emo Philips

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
— Thomas Paine

"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
— George Bernard Shaw

"If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Phoenix..."
--Hunter S Thompson

and finally .....

"There could be a happy world, where cooperation was more in evidence than competition, and monotonous work is done by machines, where what is lovely in nature is not destroyed to make room for hideous machines whose sole business is to kill, and where to promote joy is more respected than to produce mountains of corpses.

Do not say this is impossible: it is not. It only waits for men to desire it more than the infliction of torture.

There is an artist imprisoned in each one of us. Let him loose to spread joy everywhere."

— from Bertrand Russell's last essay (written at age 95, in 1967)

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

...and, some of the rest of them.

When our eyes see our hands doing the work of our hearts, the circle of Creation is completed inside us, the doors of our souls fly open and love steps forth to heal everything in sight.
--Michael Bridge

Sitting meditation is not, as is often supposed, a spiritual exercise, a practice followed for some ulterior object. From a Buddhist standpoint, it is simply the proper way to sit, and it seems perfectly natural to remain sitting so long as there is nothing else to be done, and so long as one is not consumed with nervous agitation.
--Alan W. Watts The Way of Zen, 1957

Don't pray to escape trouble. Don't pray to be comfortable in your emotions. Pray to do the will of God in every situation. Nothing else is worth praying for.
--Samuel M. Shoemaker

You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt.
--Robert M. Pirsig Zen in the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

I won't take my religion from any man who never works except with his mouth
--Carl Sandburg

Depend on it. God's work, done in God's way, will never lack God's supply. He is too wise a God to frustrate His purposes for lack of funds, and He can just as easily supply them ahead of time as afterwards, and He much prefers doing so.
--J. Hudson Taylor (China Inland Mission)

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love I gain nothing Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away...And now these things remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
--1 Corinthians 13:1-8, 13

Prayer is not an old woman's idle amusement. Properly understood and applied, it is the most potent instrument of action.
--Mahatma Gandhi The Book of Positive Quotations by John Cook

Prayer is light; charity is a proof; patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin.
--Mohammed

Righteousness is good morality, and wrongdoing is that which wavers in your soul and which you dislike people finding out about.
--Mohammed

Hate the sin and love the sinner.
--Mahatma Gandhi [Mahatma] India nationalist, spiritual leader

It is most difficult, in my mind, to separate any success, whether it be in your profession, your family, or as in my case, in basketball, from religion.
--John Wooden 1910-, American Basketball Coach

 

[Belegon]

So when the Mormons or Witnesses come to my door, I just tell them I’m not interested, because I’m not.

I always found answering the door naked with a towel, a whip and a pack of matches to be effective. Especially if you call out over your shoulder, "Hold on you two, I'll be right there" as you open the door...

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Let's check in with our celebrity panel ......

I'm very disappointed in you. So many writers and you left out one of the most vocally atheist sci-fi writers out there: Douglas Adams.

"God's final message to all of creation: 'We're sorry for the inconvenience.'" -So Long and Thanks for all the Fish by Douglas Adams



And on the logic free portion....Well I have voices and they tell me to do things some times...terrible dirty things....like....like...NAKED RIVERDANCE!

Hahahaha, now my quarter-Irish blood is free to wreak havoc at last! (Actually I do dance a mean Riverdance)

 

[minsue]

"If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Phoenix..."
--Hunter S Thompson

Ooh, I'm stealing this for my siggy.

Hope you don't mind, Zack

 

[Belegon]

I always felt Phoenix in the summer had a lot in common with Minnesota in the winter...

Either way, you are running from car to building as fast as you can, it is just from heater to heater in one place and from A/C to A/C in the other.

 

[Seattle Zack]

Naw, steal away.

If anything, HST is nothing but quotable.

Ask shereads, she knows.

"All you have to do is cruise into your favorite local bowling alley, and watch a while -- and then smoke some fine hashish and think heavily about what kind of shuffling, screeching, hideous vision your favorite bowling alley would be, if all those people were stark raving naked. "
--HST

"My apartment in New York was on Perry Street, a five minute walk from the White Horse. I often drank there, but I was never accepted because I wore a tie. The real people wanted no part of me."
--HST

"America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable. "
--HST

"I have always loved marijuana. It has been a source of joy and comfort to me for many years. And I still think of it as a basic staple of life, along with beer and ice and grapefruits - and millions of Americans agree with me."
--HST

"Every now and then, when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas ... with the music at top volume and at least a pint of ether."
--HST

 

[Guest]

NAKED RIVERDANCE!

Now that would constitute a perfect Hell.

Perdita

Luc, I hope you're not M. Flatley, eooooww!

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Purposely misposted from the "I Just Had To Vent" thread...

http://www.extremefunnyhumor.com/Picz/085.jpg


. . . . because I don't wish to be pummeled.

 

[sweetnpetite]

The only restriction I noticed on this thread is that it is to be ”logic free”.

Still, you fellows are complaining that the thread is "boring and lifeless" because of this one tiny restriction.

A more "logical" reaction would be to stay out of a "logic free" thread if you MUST forever be so ballockingly logical!

Somehow, your complaint just doesn't seem quite logical to me.

So, I guess it DOES belong in this thread after all

If any of this analysis betrays the slightest use of logic, I apologize.

huggs for burly<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

 

[sweetnpetite]

So, can I employ Reason yet... this is uncomfortable.

NO!

 

[sweetnpetite]

But... they're... the... same... thing....phew.
I can't play this game.

I knew it!


I knew it was a trick!!!!


Clever Joe, but not clever enough...

 

[sweetnpetite]

"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility."
— Sigmund Freud

I think oppression involves responsiblities as well. --lots of them.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Ok, since the logic free thread is so borring- go ahead, you can argue.

You just can't employ logic in your arguments. (again I don't meen you have to be logical, just don't use the *discipline* of logic.--sorry joe) and no getting all edu-macated sounding with vis-a-vis this and that either or any sort of acedemic speek. No none of that.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Who are these Logicians; anyhow?

 

[sweetnpetite]

Who are these Logicians; anyhow?

Usually Joe starts it, and then other wellmeaning folk jump in and try to fight fire with fire and then pretty soon we can't even remember what the topic of the thread is anymore because we are arguing about the meaning of *is*.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Usually Joe starts it, and then other wellmeaning folk jump in and try to fight fire with fire and then pretty soon we can't even remember what the topic of the thread is anymore because we are arguing about the meaning of *is*.

& that'll teach you to intercourse with youthful young men who have advanced degrees. Eh?

 

[sweetnpetite]

& that'll teach you to intercourse with youthful young men who have advanced degrees. Eh?

Oh gawd, you don't think he argues logic during *that* too do you?

 

[Guest]

Oh gawd, you don't think he argues logic during *that* too do you?

Sweet, you're getting wittier. P.

 

[gauchecritic]

Oh gawd, you don't think he argues logic during *that* too do you?

Only the precise definition of 9 inches.


"When you say 'sawn off geek' what do you mean precisely?"

Gauche