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I'd like to point out that my dangly bits and arsehole have been the topic of discussion for two pages. Papa Chained must be proud.
 
Wow, in the last 3 pages I have laughed, I have cried, I threw up a little in my mouth. Completely ran the gambit. Epic bedtime reading material, thank you!
 
What are these "citations" you always speak of? Where's the post regarding rules and regulations or do you just make them up as you go along?


The rules are subjective and defined by the OP's mood at any given moment. But even at that, you have to admit the afore viewed image was as clear cut case for a citation as there's ever been.
 
Damn, let's put yesterday's posts behind us, shall we?

Forgiving and not forgetting, that's a pretty common phrase but I contend that if you never forget can you truly forgive? Don't the ramifications linger? Doesn't the act that necessitated the forgiveness still create pain? That's not to say I don't or can't forgive but forgiveness doesn't wipe the slate truly clean, does it?
 
This is a good question. Forgiveness doesn't necessarily mean you have to forget everything. But I think truly forgiving someone means that you have to stop holding things in about the person. If two people have kissed and made up, then let it be that way. People do bad things when they are hurt and all. But if whatever the relationship that is there is truly worth the effort, then you do need to release the past.

Like I could hold it against all of you fuckers for making fun of my hairy balls yesterday. I mean, Chained is handing out situations. Judge Pmann would sentence you to kiss my ass- the lot of you. But since Lord Pmann is a kind and benevolent ruler, I'll do no such thing. #Grace
 
thank god I can now stare at RRL's cleavage to get Pmann's junk out of my head

Glad I could help.

Damn, let's put yesterday's posts behind us, shall we?

Forgiving and not forgetting, that's a pretty common phrase but I contend that if you never forget can you truly forgive? Don't the ramifications linger? Doesn't the act that necessitated the forgiveness still create pain? That's not to say I don't or can't forgive but forgiveness doesn't wipe the slate truly clean, does it?

Forgive and forget is an overly-used stale saying that's easier said than done. Dependent on the severity of the burn.

Judge Pmann would sentence you to kiss my ass- the lot of you. But since Lord Pmann is a kind and benevolent ruler, I'll do no such thing. #Grace

Us plebeians thank you.
 
Damn, let's put yesterday's posts behind us, shall we?

Forgiving and not forgetting, that's a pretty common phrase but I contend that if you never forget can you truly forgive? Don't the ramifications linger? Doesn't the act that necessitated the forgiveness still create pain? That's not to say I don't or can't forgive but forgiveness doesn't wipe the slate truly clean, does it?

this is an ongoing issue with me: I can forgive you, I can accept an apology, but I won't easily forget. Because past actions, usually indicate future behavior. If you did it once, you'll probably do it again. Esp. if you do nothing to change your behavior. Take my wife for example: she has a bad habit of leaving lights on after she has left a room. Not a big deal, right? She even told me she did it when we first got together. At first it was cute, then became a running joke. Then it became annoying. Then a source of friction. Then an argument. Because as a grown adult, I shouldn't have to follow her around, turning off lights. And no matter how much she apologized, I knew it would happen again. So, yeah. I can forgive, but I have a long memory....
 
Damn, let's put yesterday's posts behind us, shall we?

Forgiving and not forgetting, that's a pretty common phrase but I contend that if you never forget can you truly forgive? Don't the ramifications linger? Doesn't the act that necessitated the forgiveness still create pain? That's not to say I don't or can't forgive but forgiveness doesn't wipe the slate truly clean, does it?

It depends on the way I remember the things I forgave someone. Am I able to live with the pain they created, move it aside, say "it happened, I felt like shit when it happened, we talked about it and the person sincerely regretted what happened" and cherish the making up part more than the pain part? Then it is no problem for me.

Things I have a feeling of insincerity about it (like the other giving the impression to simply say what is socially appropriate) do linger in a bad way. Those I (never) truly forgive either, because my "Don't worry, it is alright now" might also be a quite empty phrase.

I think to be able to truly forgive one has to be able to feel forgiving. If this is the case, the wound will heal, might leave a scar, even a big scar, but that is all it will be.
 
Damn, let's put yesterday's posts behind us, shall we?

Forgiving and not forgetting, that's a pretty common phrase but I contend that if you never forget can you truly forgive? Don't the ramifications linger? Doesn't the act that necessitated the forgiveness still create pain? That's not to say I don't or can't forgive but forgiveness doesn't wipe the slate truly clean, does it?
No, it doesn't wipe the slate clean. It can have long lasting impacts on a relationship and how it evolves. But even if you can't completely forgive, you do need to learn how to be at peace with it and truly let it go. Because throwing a past transgression in someone's face every time you get butt sore about something else is miserable for everyone.

Just for the record, I'm not asking for forgiveness for posting Pmann's hairy nut sack. In fact, I hope y'all never forget and you're welcome. :D
 
Damn, let's put yesterday's posts behind us, shall we?

Forgiving and not forgetting, that's a pretty common phrase but I contend that if you never forget can you truly forgive? Don't the ramifications linger? Doesn't the act that necessitated the forgiveness still create pain? That's not to say I don't or can't forgive but forgiveness doesn't wipe the slate truly clean, does it?


I think forgetting is a bad idea, because you don't want to go down that path again. Forgiving, well that's another story. If you're truly at peace with things, then the forgivin is easy. If you're not, you're just waiting for it to fester. I don't think forgiveness wipes it clean, just makes sure you realize that what happened was a lesson. So fucking learn it. :D

(I took a break to answer. Also, the ballsack was awesome in its terribleness. And Pmann cracks me up.)
 
Take my wife for example: she has a bad habit of leaving lights on after she has left a room. Not a big deal, right? She even told me she did it when we first got together. At first it was cute, then became a running joke. Then it became annoying. Then a source of friction. Then an argument. Because as a grown adult, I shouldn't have to follow her around, turning off lights. And no matter how much she apologized, I knew it would happen again. So, yeah. I can forgive, but I have a long memory....

Holy shit! How do you live with that shit?!? Leaving the lights on!!! She's worse than ISIS.

Unsolicited advice warning:

Seriously dude, pick your battles. She even told you she did it before. She forewarned you. If that's the most annoying thing your wife does, then you've got it pretty fucking good. Sure leaving a toilet seat up or socks can be annoying. But in the grand scheme of things, that's pretty harmless. Certainly not something worth not forgetting. I mean, it's not like she listens to Sam Hunt or watches Family Guy. She even apologized and said she was sorry.
 
Holy shit! How do you live with that shit?!? Leaving the lights on!!! She's worse than ISIS.

Unsolicited advice warning:

Seriously dude, pick your battles. She even told you she did it before. She forewarned you. If that's the most annoying thing your wife does, then you've got it pretty fucking good. Sure leaving a toilet seat up or socks can be annoying. But in the grand scheme of things, that's pretty harmless. Certainly not something worth not forgetting. I mean, it's not like she listens to Sam Hunt or watches Family Guy. She even apologized and said she was sorry.

I realize it's a small thing, and if that's all it was, yeah, I'd be an ahole for mentioning it. But it illustrates my point about patterns of behavior. We have both done much bigger things, and while I have tried to forgive her, I won't forget them. And she won't either; which is part of the reason we are getting divorced. So there :p
 
...throwing a past transgression in someone's face every time you get butt sore about something else is miserable for everyone.

What's the saying? Resentment and bitterness are like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die?

I realize it's a small thing, and if that's all it was, yeah, I'd be an ahole for mentioning it. But it illustrates my point about patterns of behavior. We have both done much bigger things, and while I have tried to forgive her, I won't forget them. And she won't either; which is part of the reason we are getting divorced. So there :p

Life is about getting through things with other people. People with different quirks and problems. Some things are big ones. Some things are not. I'd make a recommendation- don't cite that as a reason to the judge in your divorce case. Judge Pmann would hold your ass in contempt!

One time someone told me something that I thought was wise... You shoot your arrows. Once that arrow is shot and you resolved that issue, the arrow is done. That doesn't mean you have to completely forget it. But you can't use that arrow anymore.
 
What's the saying? Resentment and bitterness are like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die?



Life is about getting through things with other people. People with different quirks and problems. Some things are big ones. Some things are not. I'd make a recommendation- don't cite that as a reason to the judge in your divorce case. Judge Pmann would hold your ass in contempt!

One time someone told me something that I thought was wise... You shoot your arrows. Once that arrow is shot and you resolved that issue, the arrow is done. That doesn't mean you have to completely forget it. But you can't use that arrow anymore.



It's like dropping your favorite dinner plate and it shatters. You can tell the plate you're sorry but that doesn't put it back together. That plate is gone, and you get a new one. But it's just not the same.

Sounds dumb, but it made sense to me.
 
Damn, let's put yesterday's posts behind us, shall we?

Forgiving and not forgetting, that's a pretty common phrase but I contend that if you never forget can you truly forgive? Don't the ramifications linger? Doesn't the act that necessitated the forgiveness still create pain? That's not to say I don't or can't forgive but forgiveness doesn't wipe the slate truly clean, does it?


I can always forgive. I find it makes my heart feel just a bit lighter when I do. As far as forgetting...well as long as I have a brain I really can never truly forget a situation that warranted my forgiveness. What matters is I can feel confident in knowing I am not harboring bad feelings and I choose to not dwell on a negative situation. :kiss:
 
Simple, everyday annoyances aren't things that fall into the realm of forgiveness for me. A fleeting moment of frustration and then it's forgotten, never to be revisited again, until the next time. Then, it's just another fleeting moment.

It's much easier to forgive things that have been done directly to me and much harder to forgive things that have been done to hurt my loved ones.

The pain attached to the memory is always there. Each time that memory is triggered, the pain will resurface, and therein lies the work to be done, yet again. Thus, forgiveness seems to be an ongoing process. It can also be a slippery slope.

I've had many instances where I've forgiven and truly forgotten in the way that I think the phrase is meant. In other words, even from the memory, there is no lingering pain or anguish. The slate is wiped clean. I believe this may be relative to how "bad" we feel the transgression to be, how we judge it, and how much work we are willing to do. There are many things that hurt in the moment that are just that. It's as simple to let them go and forget as it is to feel the hurt. Other things, not so much.

The process of forgiveness seems difficult to describe. Maybe because it's something that comes from the heart. It can't be done with just the mind. It first comes from a decision, then feels like a rising above, an opening of the heart and mind, a higher plane of emotion, a deliberate act of love and compassion, a feeling of humility. From my description just now, it includes some of the same things that I would use to describe making love to someone... that's interesting.

There have been a few people in my life that have done things to cause ineffable pain. I don't know which hurts worse, the pain that I've had to live through and learn to forgive, or the knowing that they're still living with the pain of not forgiving themselves. My heart bleeds not only for myself, but also for them.

True forgiveness seems to take the form of unconditional love. A seemingly high, almost unreachable goal, perhaps yes. But still very attainable if it's what you truly want to do. Anything, anything at all, can be forgiven, and yes, eventually forgotten, depending on how you define the forgetting part. The mind will always remember but that doesn't mean that the heart has to.
 
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