Literoitca protocol for referring to other sites

[gunhilltrain]

Literotica protocol for referring to other sites

A year ago an anonymous user made a rather detailed criticism in the comments of one of my stories. Then recently another anonymous commenter criticized it. Thus I looked at the comments again, and I decided the first person was probably right.

I decided to try a rewrite in the way the first guy (I assume it's a guy) had suggested. It does seem better the second time around, and I will eventually post it on another site.

Is it acceptable here to have some indication - either in the comments on the original story or on the bulletin board - that there is a new version and where it can be found? I assume that Literotica wouldn't allow a direct link to the other site.

 

[ElectricBlue]

A year ago an anonymous user made a rather detailed criticism in the comments of one of my stories. Then recently another anonymous commenter criticized it. Thus I looked at the comments again, and I decided the first person was probably right.

I decided to try a rewrite in the way the first guy (I assume it's a guy) had suggested. It does seem better the second time around, and I will eventually post it on another site.

Is it acceptable here to have some indication - either in the comments on the original story or on the bulletin board - that there is a new version and where it can be found? I assume that Literotica wouldn't allow a direct link to the other site.

I don't think so. If you bookify it to sell commercially, you can promote books in signature blocks like many of us do, and in the thread that allows you to promote published work; but putting in a link to take folk off to a competitor site - they get taken down.

It's a subtlety, I think, but an important one - the fine line between promoting your books on the back of being a Lit writer versus promoting the other site. You have to let the other site do its own work, I think, not stream traffic from Lit. That's how I see it, anyway.

 

[RejectReality]

You do know you can edit and put the new and improved version up here as well, right?

Here's the editing method for Lit.

• Take note of the url of your story/chapter. That's the address appearing in the address bar of your browser when you view the first page of your story. You really only need the last part after the /s/ that represents your title.
• Start a new submission.
• Use the same title as the original ( or as much as will fit ) plus something such as *EDIT*
• Fill in the same category, then fill description and keywords with placeholders, as they don't matter. ( Unless one of these things are what you're editing )
• If editing the story text, paste/upload the new text in the "story text" section. You need to upload the whole story/chapter, not just the edited sections. If editing anything else, copy the "notes" section detailed below in order to fill this section.
• In the "notes" section, say what you are editing. If story text, then put that. If title, then put the requested NEW title here. You can fill in edited descriptions/keywords/category above, but you'll still want to list any such changes here. It's a good idea to list the url that I mentioned in step 1. This is unique to every story/chapter, and can help eliminate the potential for human error. As mentioned above, if you are editing something other than the story text, copy what you put in the notes section to the "story text" as well. This is simply because there must be something in that section for you to submit.
• Click "Review", then "Submit"

Edits have a lower priority than new stories, and may take longer to process.

Edits will not appear on the public side immediately. Wait at least 24 hours after the "edited" submission vanishes from your private author list or from the "pending" folder before worrying that your changes haven't been applied. Changes may not all appear at the same time, either. Page 1 may change, while page 2 will remain the same until an hour or so later. Be patient as the system catches up.

If you edit the story in this manner ( as opposed to deleting and re-submitting ) you'll retain your votes, views, comments, etc. The only thing that will be changed is what you say that you want changed. It will not appear on the New List again.

If you wish to delete a story, use much the same method, except put something such as *DELETE* in the title, and say that you want to delete the story in question in the "notes" section.

If you wish to delete all of your stories, an entire series, etc., then use the normal delete process, but explain in the "notes" section that you want to do a mass delete, and what type.

Convoluted, but it does work. It gets a little easier as you get used to it.

 

[Bramblethorn]

What RR said, or just post the new version as a separate story, perhaps titled something like "My Story - Alternate Version".

 

[gunhilltrain]

What RR said, or just post the new version as a separate story, perhaps titled something like "My Story - Alternate Version".

Thank you, I have some options to consider. It will be a little while longer.

The first half is virtually identical; the second half is drastically different. I'm tempted to post the alternative version here as a separate story if they will let me do it. I don't think I want to edit/replace the original.

Actually, I did once post a new version of a story with a different title. Substantial parts of the original were reused. The site's people (Laurel only?) and the readers never noticed it, or if they did they didn't mention it.

Anyway, it will definitely go on the other site.

 

[8letters]

What RR said, or just post the new version as a separate story, perhaps titled something like "My Story - Alternate Version".

I've done this. Another option I considered was deleting the original and then posting the revised version. But as the original had won a contest, I didn't want to delete it.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I've done this. Another option I considered was deleting the original and then posting the revised version. But as the original had won a contest, I didn't want to delete it.

I looked at the one I did and I did have a disclaimer at the top mentioning what I had done. But I was vague; I didn't mention the title of the original. (I guess I didn't even need a disclaimer). I would make a rough estimate that 75% of the original was retained.

I suppose on a site this big and this busy it would be a rare reader who had ever read the original. Well, I do have some followers but I doubt they are going to nit-pick.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I looked at the one I did and I did have a disclaimer at the top mentioning what I had done. But I was vague; I didn't mention the title of the original. (I guess I didn't even need a disclaimer). I would make a rough estimate that 75% of the original was retained.

I suppose on a site this big and this busy it would be a rare reader who had ever read the original. Well, I do have some followers but I doubt they are going to nit-pick.

If someone did report it, it would go full circle back to you anyway. As I see it, you'd only need to go to another site if the revised story breached Lit's content rules.

 

[NotWise]

If someone did report it, it would go full circle back to you anyway. As I see it, you'd only need to go to another site if the revised story breached Lit's content rules.

Is an author notified when their story is taken down because of a reader complaint? The question was asked on another thread a few weeks ago. I don't recall that it was answered.

 

[RejectReality]

Is an author notified when their story is taken down because of a reader complaint? The question was asked on another thread a few weeks ago. I don't recall that it was answered.

Not technically notified, but it does appear within the "sent back" tab when it happens, which provides a visual cue at the top of the work page any time you visit it. Much better than only having a "rejected" notice on the individual story the way it was under the old author CP.

 

[NotWise]

Not technically notified, but it does appear within the "sent back" tab when it happens, which provides a visual cue at the top of the work page any time you visit it. Much better than only having a "rejected" notice on the individual story the way it was under the old author CP.

I'd consider that to be a notification.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Is an author notified when their story is taken down because of a reader complaint? The question was asked on another thread a few weeks ago. I don't recall that it was answered.

Yes, because it becomes a rejection/sent back (like a new story being bounced for content) - it would show up on the author's CP. It's then up to the author to tweak it or continue to argue their case. I imagine it would come back with whatever generic rejection notice applies (under-age, non-con without satisfaction, bestiality, snuff, etc.). If the author didn't respond, the story would stay down forever. Laurel wouldn't care or follow up.

EDIT: How weird are these time stamps. RR and I must have replied almost simultaneously, but the post time stamps are several hours apart. I'd always assumed they converted to whatever time zone you nominated, but maybe not.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Thank you, I have some options to consider. It will be a little while longer.

The first half is virtually identical; the second half is drastically different. I'm tempted to post the alternative version here as a separate story if they will let me do it. I don't think I want to edit/replace the original.

Actually, I did once post a new version of a story with a different title. Substantial parts of the original were reused. The site's people (Laurel only?) and the readers never noticed it, or if they did they didn't mention it.

Anyway, it will definitely go on the other site.

I just posted three stories that were the same but had three different endings. 80% of the story was different though.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Like everyone else, I can be prickly about criticism. Yet sometimes, after a while, I do realize that a critical comment was right after all.

Maybe I've developed a thicker skin from being here for a couple of years.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Like everyone else, I can be prickly about criticism. Yet sometimes, after a while, I do realize that a critical comment was right after all.

Maybe I've developed a thicker skin from being here for a couple of years.

If it's an intelligent comment, well expressed, it's probably got merit, worth paying attention to. You might not agree with it, but if you can see the other point of view, you're one intelligent comment wiser.

Similarly, if it's a stupid comment with no logic or sense, and you agree with it, you're one comment dumber. You can measure your progress as a growing writer by watching the balance, I reckon .

 

[Emirus]

Like everyone else, I can be prickly about criticism. Yet sometimes, after a while, I do realize that a critical comment was right after all.

Maybe I've developed a thicker skin from being here for a couple of years.

I think you, or anyone, can feel prickly about criticism when you don’t feel it was constructive. I pay attention to all comments but the ones I pay most attention to are the comments saying they enjoyed the story and tell me why, and the comments saying they didn’t enjoy the story and also tell me why. You can use constructive criticism to improve. Unless you can’t be bothered to improve in which case the person who tells you your story was s**** doesn’t bother you anyway.

We’ve been on here the same length of time but you’ve certainly got a faster finger than me. Do you moonlight as The Flash? If not when do you sleep? If it’s a special diet please let me know because I could do with more energy. My wife says... I don’t think I’ll go there. When I told her I could hear her but I wasn’t listening it didn’t go down well. But I’ve filled it in now!

 

[Handley_Page]

A year ago an anonymous user made a rather detailed criticism in the comments of one of my stories. Then recently another anonymous commenter criticized it. Thus I looked at the comments again, and I decided the first person was probably right.

I decided to try a rewrite in the way the first guy (I assume it's a guy) had suggested. It does seem better the second time around, and I will eventually post it on another site.

Is it acceptable here to have some indication - either in the comments on the original story or on the bulletin board - that there is a new version and where it can be found? I assume that Literotica wouldn't allow a direct link to the other site.

Very True.
Apart from anything else, we don't advertise a different site.
Personally, I'd suggest you put it up here as a "different version"

 

[gunhilltrain]

I think you, or anyone, can feel prickly about criticism when you don’t feel it was constructive. I pay attention to all comments but the ones I pay most attention to are the comments saying they enjoyed the story and tell me why, and the comments saying they didn’t enjoy the story and also tell me why. You can use constructive criticism to improve. Unless you can’t be bothered to improve in which case the person who tells you your story was s**** doesn’t bother you anyway.

We’ve been on here the same length of time but you’ve certainly got a faster finger than me. Do you moonlight as The Flash? If not when do you sleep? If it’s a special diet please let me know because I could do with more energy. My wife says... I don’t think I’ll go there. When I told her I could hear her but I wasn’t listening it didn’t go down well. But I’ve filled it in now!

I'm retired, and I'm lucky I have something to do with my time.

About that person's comment: it was constructive, but I didn't realize it at the time. The tone was off-putting, I suppose. He (I'm guessing it was a male) was very blunt and didn't mince any words. But he had very specific ideas of how it should have been done. I probably wouldn't have seen it again if somebody else hadn't posted below him last week.

I've been writing the new version, sort of as an experiment - and, yes, it seems that person back in 2019 was right.