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[default24]

So , as a bi woman how do you feel about the word queer ? Positive , negative , other

I'm fairly certain that she's not bi. But only fairly

 

[tnman03]

I’m straight. I will call them whatever they want.

Yeah, straight here as well, not even bi-curious to be honest. One of my best friends is gay and several close female friends are lesbian or bi. None of that bothers me and I admire people who are open and genuine about their sexuality. It only becomes irritating when it’s made to be militant or adversarial where you’re shammed or mocked for not being in lockstep on the transsexual issues. Just be who you are and be good to each other and others.

 

[AlexBailey]

I like the term "queer." The meaning, or at least the common usage has shifted a bit over the years, but lately I fully embrace it for myself.

When I was a kid I heard it with negative connotation, my step brother called me "fag" and "the little queer" before I was ever interested in sex - but that was the eighties, when things like "eat shit and die" were common insults. My step brother was five years older and a big redneck of a guy who was embarrassed of me and acted out in front of his friends - they did stuff and said things that they could never get away with today.

"Queer" always seemed like a dehumanizing insult until I fell in with a social group of lesbians. They all affectionately called each other queers, dykes, and fags - they called me a "fag hag" for being the one guy hanging with their "pack of dykes." They were reclaiming the words, owning and embracing them.

At one protest the driver of a big truck yelled, "you're all a bunch of pussies!" which was met with cheers of, "Damn right! Pussy power!"

Ever since I've actually found it titillating to be called "queer," "pussy," "faggot" whatever... As long as they aren't physically attacking me it doesn't hurt. I feel about the same about them as I do about someone who is addicted to cigarettes - poor dumbasses. (Sorry smokers)

I love being queer. I like being attracted to attractive people regardless of gender lines and expectations. I was afraid of those feelings until a Swedish foreign exchange student opened my eyes. We were laying there professing our love after an enthusiastic little fuck session when she asked something like, "What if you fell in love with me before seeing me naked, I mean fully in love, then when we got naked I had a penis? Would you still love me then?"

That was the first time I really thought about it - separating love from gender. Yes. I would love her regardless of what she had between her legs. Why would I throw out a possible intimate connection with half of humanity based only on genitals? I probably fell in love dozens of times before I ever got laid, and who can honestly say that sex is the single most important thing in a relationship?

I am thirty-two flavors and then some.

 

[tnman03]

It’s militant because it has to be, Mr. White Cis Man.

No disagreement on that, the protest was and is a useful necessity to be seen and recognized. I differentiate that though from someone doing so when no one is questioning or baiting them.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Address people how they want to be addressed. Refer to people as they wish to be referenced. If you don’t know these things about someone, it’s probably not your business to discuss them. I have queer friends who love to be called queer. I have LBGTQ+ friends who don’t care for the word. Simply respecting people is the way.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

AlexBailey

 

[AlexBailey]

Alex. Were your parents supportive?
A close family member of mine went through hell. Their parents tried to take them to conversion therapy. My ex and I offered to take them in.
All is okay, now, but it was a rough few years.

As divorced and remarried Catholics, my parents had all kinds of personal conflicts they projected onto me. If they’d had more money they would have sent me to parochial school - not that that would have made any difference, I’ve known lots people who had their first queer experience at religious boarding schools.

My mom knew I was into girls clothes, she even enabled it when I was little, but after she married my stepfather it was all taboo. When I was thirteen and away for several weeks for the summer she cleaned everything in my room and got rid of my ‘trashy’ stuff, but I also has some nice athletic girls stuff - a nice one piece speedo, some tights, a leotard… she folded the good quality stuff and put it away in my drawers and never said a word.

I’ve hade a couple of friends who were sent to conversion therapy, one ended up testifying in court for a variety of charges against one sponsored by her parent’s church. Several others have been disowned by their families. I don’t know how my parents would have reacted if I’d been an open crossdresser or if I ever had a LTR with a boyfriend. For several years my mom would often say how glad she was that I wasn’t gay - then having a girlfriend who sometimes fit the stereotype of a butch lesbian was hard on them too.

 

[AveryElle]

Huh ? Your Lit bi gal pals all say they are bi woman , brag about it. Personally I think they flaunt it a bit to much myself. Like it defines them way more then it needs to. Being married and all.

Have you ever had the “ queer “ discussion with them ? Bi men have had the shit kicked out of them or shunned being that flaunting in some circles , country’s or social settings.

College , where they grew up , that sorta social setting.

It’s a responsibility to carry the Bi Pride flag.

1) if she says she’s not bi, believe her as you would the ‘gal pals’ who claim to be bi on here.
2) it’s not your say if someone flaunts their sexuality ‘too much’ on - wait for it - A SEX BOARD. Just block those people. It’s super easy.
3) what’s a “queer” discussion?
4) it’s no ones responsibility to carry any flag for any group if they choose not to. You don’t get to define other people’s activism.

 

[default24]

Hey, you.

Hi. This is a fun thread, huh?

 

[default24]

I’ve missed your perfect pelvis.

Yeahhhhh me too. It left circa 2018. RIP V lines, gone but not forgotten. F

How's Fara?

 

[default24]

It is , what about you. Did you have a question *

I know it came off sarcastic but I do appreciate you and your ability to generate thought-provoking conversation. I don't have a question, but I'll definitely keep an eye on this thread and contribute when and where I feel that I can. Keep rocking my dude

 

[ToPleaseHim]

1) if she says she’s not bi, believe her as you would the ‘gal pals’ who claim to be bi on hete.
2) it’s not your say if someone flaunts their sexuality ‘too much’ on - wait for it - A SEX BOARD. Just block those people. It’s super easy.
3) what’s a “queer” discussion?
4) it’s no ones responsibility to carry any flag for any group if they choose not to. You don’t get to define other people’s activism.

All of this

 

[AlexBailey]

My family member has a good relationship with his parents, now. I hope you do, too.

Thanks, Fara.

My folks are getting old, it’s at the point where they only see what they want to see and they have almost no influence over anything important to me anymore, so we take things at face value. Our relationship is good but comfortably distant these days.

 

[AlexBailey]

I think the older generation just needs to “see” someone. It needs to be in their face. They can’t be empathetic if they were taught one way, unless they see an actual loving person in their face. Even when I grew up it wasn’t normalized. Imagine someone over 70? For the most part, they were taught it was bad, and sex wasn’t talked about, and why is my nephew wearing eyeliner?

I think it's true for many people that they will be more open to new ideas when someone they care about puts it in their face, but humans come in all types and kinds. At the exterme, there are people out there who would rather kill their own offspring rather than be embarrassed by them.

My parents are facing their own mortality within a religion that says they are guilty of sin and only repentance can save them. That religion offers them instant forgiveness and promises the same for anyone else who will make the same choice. Easy peasey. They feel it's more worthwhile to pray for sinners to see the light rather than to accept any incursions on their faith.

The absurdity of it cracks me up. It makes me think of cartoon physics - where you can be standing in a box as it falls from the sky, only to be saved from certain death by stepping off the moment before it hits the ground.

 

[AveryElle]

*646

#3 What’s a queer discussion?

I’d say with all do respect , it’s a lot like the green book. I guideline to safety , what’s a queer friendly space , what’s not. Good advice about what’s dangerous flaunting crossing the line pushing breeders buttons for fun and what’s in good taste as a human being.

That sorta stuff.

But wait there’s more

Well, aren’t you a cis hetero male? I don’t understand why you’re the best promoter of queer safety as a cis het male. It’s really weird.

 

[AveryElle]

What’s my name

I have no idea.

 

[KinkyLaughs]

Guess

Heisenberg

 

[AlpineFresco]

Heisenberg

Are you certain?

 

[AveryElle]

Guess

Herbert Hesstlethorn

 

[AveryElle]

Beth.

You win.
<bows down>

 

[AveryElle]

<hands you a clue>

 

[AveryElle]

I say this with all due respect….huh?

 

[AveryElle]

What’s your actual purpose this morning , what ? Please explain what the fux you need so desperately. That as much space in the thread that you need. Use your best vocabulary and focus , on me. Explain what the fux

Eventually I need to get up and head to work.

 

[ky81nea]

So , as a bi woman how do you feel about the word queer ? Positive , negative , other

i really don;t like the word. I am a lesbian , though that would not be the case if my husband was still able to have sex i would be bi, i am different always have been, but queer could at times feel like the N word but that is just have i feel.