Let's OUTSOURCE the draft!

[shereads]

Today I made a call to my mortgage company and was routed, once again, to a call center in India. It made me wonder why we don't just outsource our military - on a voluntary basis at first; then, if necessary, by drafting from the pool of foreign nationals who are currently holding outsourced U.S. jobs as telemarketers, engineers, medical lab technicians, etc.

Hell, let's outsource the defense department. Does anybody know what Rumsfeld makes? I googled and can't find a figure. But it's a no-brainer that somewhere in Pakistan or the Dominican Republic, we can find comparable talent at a fraction of his salary.

 

[shereads]

Maybe this new recruiting poster will negate the need for a draft:

"I believe we are absolutely on the brink of failure. We are looking into the abyss."

~ General Joseph Hoare, former head of US Central Command, to Senate Foreign Relations Committee

 

[Somme]

...or send Rumsfeld to Bombay?

 

[Guest]

Outsourcing the military? You'll have a Mexican army in no time. The NYTimes had an article today about all the Mexicans who work 12-hour days 6 days/week doing laundry for an average of $4/hour.

Perdita

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

... I believe we are absolutely on the brink of failure. We are looking into the abyss ...

One of those Optimistic “looking into the abyss” types

as opposed to

one of them Pessimistic “looking up from the abyss” types.



I still think BushCo should have gone to ILM to produce the war.

Industrial Light & Magic could have produced that war for under 25 million, not killed any of their programmers filming it, got far better images than the ones sent back by the 'embedded' press, and have had the war in post-production before the election.

And, finally, the way things have worked out, they would have been completely safe depending upon the media’s failure to report that BushCo’s fantasy war wasn't precisely factual outside of America's borders.

 

[Pure]

Hi sher,

Outsourcing of soldiering is already occurring. If you look at the US companies that furnish the 'contractors', like Black Water, iirc, they hire ex soldiers from around the world, Chile, S. Africa etc.

 

[snooper]

I didn't realise that the USA still had the draft. Is that true?

The UK gave up compulsory military service forty years ago; perhaps that's why we have a proper professional military that doesn't go round showering friendly fire on its allies.

 

[Edward Teach]

Hi sher,

Outsourcing of soldiering is already occurring. If you look at the US companies that furnish the 'contractors', like Black Water, iirc, they hire ex soldiers from around the world, Chile, S. Africa etc.

"Contractors" are being paid as much as $1,000 per day. But, hey, money is no object when you are saving the world from, from, well liberals and terrorists, and future generations are going to pick up the bill.

Ed

 

[shereads]

I didn't realise that the USA still had the draft. Is that true?

The UK gave up compulsory military service forty years ago; perhaps that's why we have a proper professional military that doesn't go round showering friendly fire on its allies.

We don't have it, but it's a looming issue.

And who said it was "friendly?"

 

[amicus]

If I did not have to watch my heart rate, I could almost 'get off' reading as the covey of liberals group grope in view of all.

"Outsourcing" Another name is 'freedom' the right to buy, sell, manufacture and distribute goods and services without control by Tradesmen, Unionists and Government in general.

Medieval Guilds and Modern Unions, limit those who can practice the 'trade' be it Medical or Plumber, in order to limit and restrict the number employed, so as to create a shortage and keep the price of their services high. That benefits the Guild and Union members and punishes everyone else.

In a 'free' society, anyone can do anything and sell it at any price the public will pay. (Dirty words, Free enterprise)

And no, there is no Conscription, no, Draft, in the United States and will never be unless a Liberal wins election. People will not freely give service in a Command, Left Wing, Socialist environment. Sorry guys, TANSTAAFL, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch..."

You gonna keep up the propoganda, Ima gonna keep up the sanitary services.

amicus

 

[shereads]

zzzzzzz

 

[Guest]

 

[Edward Teach]

If I did not have to watch my heart rate, I could almost 'get off' reading as the covey of liberals group grope in view of all.
amicus

I've been wondering what a genuine self admitted Pat Robertson type like you was getting out of this site full of the hell bound, Ami.

Ed

Ps. You have my permission to use this in your book.

 

[amicus]

Taltos...most I know, capable of admininstering an organization the size of the Federal Government, would not work for a paltry $150,000 per annum.

But then, Government workers, like Teachers, function within a proscribed box, bound by rules excerpting the freedom of choice in the performance of ones duties.

amicus

 

[oggbashan]

The UK has been 'outsourcing' part of its army for years.

The Gurkhas have a proud tradition of service to the Crown.

Og

 

[shereads]

The UK has been 'outsourcing' part of its army for years.

The Gurkhas have a proud tradition of service to the Crown.

Og

As do the gherkins. What would a tray of cold cuts be without those?

 

[shereads]

Employees at the very highest levels of government, such as the secretaries and deputy secretaries of Cabinet departments, administrators of smaller agencies (such as the Small Business Administration), and members and chairs of boards and commissions, are paid according to the Executive Schedule. That schedule consists of five pay levels, which in 1999 range from $110,700 at level V (administrators, deputy directors, and others) to $151,800 at level I (Cabinet-level posts).(1) The number of employees covered by that schedule totaled 400 in 1998--most of them appointed by the President.


source

The President doesn't have to do the math, does he?



It's a good thing there are perks with these jobs. One can't attract dedicated and capable public servants for less than $44 million.

 

[oggbashan]

As do the gherkins. What would a tray of cold cuts be without those?

Be very careful about making jokes about the Gurkhas. They are very skilled with their curved knives and like making shiskh-kebab of people they don't like.

They would give the US Marines a run for their money. They are very scary and professional soldiers (if you are not on their side).

Og

 

[shereads]

Be very careful about making jokes about the Gurkhas. They are very skilled with their curved knives and like making shiskh-kebab of people they don't like.

They would give the US Marines a run for their money. They are very scary and professional soldiers (if you are not on their side).

Og

They would like me. Don't worry.

 

[smutpen]

You gonna keep up the propoganda, Ima gonna keep up the sanitary services.

amicus

Ha!

That's a very clever tag to attach to your delivery of pure propaganda.


Capitalism and Libertarianism are the perfect economic and political systems -- for humans evolved and compassionate and foresighted enough to make them work.

Unfortunately, there are few such in this world, and the most fervent supporters of the approach tend to be among the least so.


Modern trade unions certainly can be guilty of the intent, and of the effects, you describe. But you conveniently ignore the fact that most modern trade unions arose to combat horrendous abuse of workers.

When investors temper their greedy shortsighted desires with compassion and human decency, when stability is recognized as just as important as growth, when part of the value of a company is recognized in its support of the economy and infrastructure of the communities in which it exists, then maybe the Smith-ian "Invisible Hand" in which you seem to place such blind trust can actually function as advertised.

The multi-millionaires and billionaires who really drive the system are happy to turn 100 educated, highly-skilled, hard-working middle-class Americans into 100 people (and sixty or seventy families) on the edge of poverty. A big investor might then make 655 million this year rather than the paltry 650 million he had to settle for last year.

And if the quality of service declines so precipitously (as it often does), that the cost of the outsourcing eventually exceeds the benefits -- well, so what? The big investors can then jump ship, complaining of mismanagement, and go loot another company.

Unless you are one of them, which I doubt, how these people must laugh in their sleeves at people like you, who so devoutly and enthusiastically defend their right to plunder the rest of us.

 

[Guest]

group grope in view of all.

Geez.

I probably stop writing those gang-bang/voyure stories.

 

[amicus]

smut pen...do some research, the, 'horrendous treatment of workers" is mostly, (not all) but mostly the work of 'papperazi' of the left persuasion in the 1880's...

What is always overlooked is that the industrial revolution brought about prosperity to many, if not most. Were there exceptions? Yes, of course, people being what they are, but the system, of allowing the free exchange of labor for the Yankee dollar, brought us out of the agricultural age of barter, into the industrial age of the use of investment capital.

Again, no references, no resources, if you really wish to know, you surely can find out.

Yes, my leftist friends, the 'Robber Barons' of the past is a myth, deal with it.

amicus

 

[Lauren Hynde]

smut pen...do some research, the, 'horrendous treatment of workers" is mostly, (not all) but mostly the work of 'papperazi' of the left persuasion in the 1880's...

LOL

You people got to admit, this guy is hilarious. Thoroughly entertaining.

 

[smutpen]

Again, no references, no resources, if you really wish to know, you surely can find out.

amicus

Ah, but I really did wish to know, and so I did find out, which is why I find your vague denial singularly unconvincing.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Feel free to respond, if you think it’s worth the effort, but I wish you guys would stop quoting Amicus in your responses to him.

I have placed Amicus on my “Ignore” list for a sufficiently defensible reason. With your help, I still get to feel the nauseating effects of his logic groping beneath my skirt.

Cut it out, doggone ya’!