Let's Hear It for the First Amendment!!

[Boxlicker101]

I wonder what they'd have said if this kid had been wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt.

http://www.examiner.com/article/jailed-for-nra-t-shirt-8th-grader-arrested-suspended

 

[Sean Renaud]

Mostly likely they would have ignored him. There is nothing in their rules that prevents a Che shirt. There is something in there rules that prevents a shirt with a gun on it. This is rather cut and dry.

 

[Squibbs]

land of the free.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Mostly likely they would have ignored him. There is nothing in their rules that prevents a Che shirt. There is something in there rules that prevents a shirt with a gun on it. This is rather cut and dry.

There is also nothing about a rifle which, by itself, is violent. I wonder if a car, which can be used to run somebody over, would have been allowed. How about a Rottweiller or sporting goods.

Che was a very violent person.

 

[IndieSnob]

Kid was stupid enough to wear a t-shirt with a gun on it, whether it said NRA or not to school. Given the amount of gun violence at schools, it should be a no-brainer that wearing a t-shirt with a gun on it isn't going to go over well. Then he makes a scene and says he wont't take it off. To top all of that off, he now says they are trying to take away his second amendment.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

 

[Ishmael]

That little bastard might have had a pair of scissors, cut that image out, loaded it with lint, and wreaked havoc.

They are beating YOU by punishing your children unjustly. The boy was NOT punished for an act, or the possibility of an act. He is being punished for an idea, nothing more. That's 'thought' police folks.

Bloomberg recently said that "any parent that sells their son a gun is (paraphrased here), unhinged." I agree, every parent should see to it that they GIVE their sons, and daughters, a handgun, shotgun, and rifle as part of their heritage. And make damn certain they know how to use them safely.

Ishmael

 

[KyleW]

He got in trouble for refusing to change his shirt. Teachers are allowed to send kids home or request they change their outfits.

Arguing it is freedom of speech is idiotic. If it had been a girl in shorts that weren't long enough, you'd be decrying the girl for being a slut, not supporting her first amendment right to wear whatever she wants.

 

[Ishmael]

He got in trouble for refusing to change his shirt. Teachers are allowed to send kids home or request they change their outfits.

Arguing it is freedom of speech is idiotic. If it had been a girl in shorts that weren't long enough, you'd be decrying the girl for being a slut, not supporting her first amendment right to wear whatever she wants.

And his short was offensive in what respect? Who did it offend, and why?

Pretty fucking subjective argument there sport.

Ishmael

 

[coastal-boy]

Stupid people make me laugh. Thanks for the giggles today OP

 

[SpermDoner]

That little bastard might have had a pair of scissors, cut that image out, loaded it with lint, and wreaked havoc.

They are beating YOU by punishing your children unjustly. The boy was NOT punished for an act, or the possibility of an act. He is being punished for an idea, nothing more. That's 'thought' police folks.

Bloomberg recently said that "any parent that sells their son a gun is (paraphrased here), unhinged." I agree, every parent should see to it that they GIVE their sons, and daughters, a handgun, shotgun, and rifle as part of their heritage. And make damn certain they know how to use them safely.

Ishmael

I concur

 

[Sean Renaud]

There is also nothing about a rifle which, by itself, is not violent. I wonder if a car, which can be used to run somebody over, would have been allowed. How about a Rottweiller or sporting goods.

Che was a very violent person.

First of all, it's a weapon. Of course it's violent. Second and more importantly the schools have the right to set whatever rules they wish. Get back to me when you're up in arms about guys not being able to go to school with earrings (which is the only reason I don't have any piercings, it was forbidden for 12 years of my life and I simply don't care enough now) or when you care about kids being restricted from having colored shoe strings or certain sports logos on their shirts (most notably the Raiders).

The rules are the rules and you follow them.

That little bastard might have had a pair of scissors, cut that image out, loaded it with lint, and wreaked havoc.

They are beating YOU by punishing your children unjustly. The boy was NOT punished for an act, or the possibility of an act. He is being punished for an idea, nothing more. That's 'thought' police folks.

Bloomberg recently said that "any parent that sells their son a gun is (paraphrased here), unhinged." I agree, every parent should see to it that they GIVE their sons, and daughters, a handgun, shotgun, and rifle as part of their heritage. And make damn certain they know how to use them safely.

Ishmael

ROFL. PArt of their heritage? If I didn't know you were serious I'd laugh my ass off.

 

[IndieSnob]

I concur

OMG, it's Vat's real dad!

 

[Ishmael]

First of all, it's a weapon. Of course it's violent. Second and more importantly the schools have the right to set whatever rules they wish. Get back to me when you're up in arms about guys not being able to go to school with earrings (which is the only reason I don't have any piercings, it was forbidden for 12 years of my life and I simply don't care enough now) or when you care about kids being restricted from having colored shoe strings or certain sports logos on their shirts (most notably the Raiders).

The rules are the rules and you follow them.



ROFL. PArt of their heritage? If I didn't know you were serious I'd laugh my ass off.

I am laughing my ass off. Alternating with tears shed for the morons that truly believe that if we were only reduced to sticks and stones we'd all be safer. Cowards all.

Ishmael

 

[phrodeau]

And his short was offensive in what respect? Who did it offend, and why?

Pretty fucking subjective argument there sport.

Ishmael

His shirt wasn't offensive. He was.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I am laughing my ass off. Alternating with tears shed for the morons that truly believe that if we were only reduced to sticks and stones we'd all be safer. Cowards all.

Ishmael

We would be safer. That's pretty much an undisputable fact. I'm not sure how you got to be so stupid though.

 

[SpermDoner]

Many CUNTries have weapon bans but is not stop the wholesale slaughter of innocent people. Mexico is one such CUNTry.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It works more often than not. Mexico has the disadvantage of being able to pop over to the US. Anyway, hi Busybody, goodbye Busybody!

 

[SpermDoner]

It works more often than not. Mexico has the disadvantage of being able to pop over to the US. Anyway, hi Busybody, goodbye Busybody!

I'm not a busybody. Just chatting.

 

[Ishmael]

We would be safer. That's pretty much an undisputable fact. I'm not sure how you got to be so stupid though.

Oh, but it IS disputable. Less likely to die (which in and off itself is laughable) perhaps, but safer?

Please, describe this world you live in for me. Your parents basement perhaps?

Paint this Utopia for me. The place where you are unable to defend yourself. The place where serf-defense is unnecessary the place where everyone just "gets along."

You're a fool. You bring nothing new to the table, nothing at all.

Ishmael

 

[Sean Renaud]

Oh, but it IS disputable. Less likely to die (which in and off itself is laughable) perhaps, but safer?

Please, describe this world you live in for me. Your parents basement perhaps?

Paint this Utopia for me. The place where you are unable to defend yourself. The place where serf-defense is unnecessary the place where everyone just "gets along."

You're a fool. You bring nothing new to the table, nothing at all.

Ishmael

Less likely to die=safer. Again, that's not really disputable.

What utopia? Oh, because I admit that the world would be better if we did something differently I live in the Utopia. I think you've got our positions swapped friend. You're the one who's got a perfect world that we shouldn't change for anything.

Who said self-(how did you manage that typo? Or are you just projecting your station in life?)defense is unnecessary or that everybody gets along? Can't it just be that a bunch of guys getting in fights with bare hands, bats and knives are simply not going to do the same amount of damage as the same guys with guns? How many drive by knifings have you heard about? To stray baseball bats go through windows and take out random people in your world?

Better question. In your world are the average criminals and self defenders some unique species? I ask because it seems that especially gangs in the 80's and 90's that they follow the exact same trend as entire nations did in early 20th century. You know, you need a gun because he's got a gun and he needs a bigger gun because you've got a gun and it just keeps compounding on itself? Does that not happen where you live? Is the concept of an Arms Race simply something that didn't happen in your Utopia?

I'm not bringing anything new to the table? Well duh. You aren't bringing anything new to the table either. There really isn't anything new to be brought. It's just a simple fact that you're wrong and I'm not. Funny thing is the only difference between us is I admit that people are going to die so I can have the freedom to own a gun. It's unlikely to ever do me any good but I'm not giving it up and I accept the price. You however, hem and haw about how it's not the gun it's the person so you can abstain from the fact that you could vote to disarm those people and make them much less deadly.

 

[Balladeer08]

First of all, it's a weapon. Of course it's violent.

If they were TRULY opposed to violence in the schools, they'd close the cafeteria.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Easier just to shut the school.

 

[Ishmael]

Less likely to die=safer. Again, that's not really disputable.

What utopia? Oh, because I admit that the world would be better if we did something differently I live in the Utopia. I think you've got our positions swapped friend. You're the one who's got a perfect world that we shouldn't change for anything.

Who said self-(how did you manage that typo? Or are you just projecting your station in life?)defense is unnecessary or that everybody gets along? Can't it just be that a bunch of guys getting in fights with bare hands, bats and knives are simply not going to do the same amount of damage as the same guys with guns? How many drive by knifings have you heard about? To stray baseball bats go through windows and take out random people in your world?

Better question. In your world are the average criminals and self defenders some unique species? I ask because it seems that especially gangs in the 80's and 90's that they follow the exact same trend as entire nations did in early 20th century. You know, you need a gun because he's got a gun and he needs a bigger gun because you've got a gun and it just keeps compounding on itself? Does that not happen where you live? Is the concept of an Arms Race simply something that didn't happen in your Utopia?

I'm not bringing anything new to the table? Well duh. You aren't bringing anything new to the table either. There really isn't anything new to be brought. It's just a simple fact that you're wrong and I'm not. Funny thing is the only difference between us is I admit that people are going to die so I can have the freedom to own a gun. It's unlikely to ever do me any good but I'm not giving it up and I accept the price. You however, hem and haw about how it's not the gun it's the person so you can abstain from the fact that you could vote to disarm those people and make them much less deadly.

You're going to die moron, nothing can save you. There is no debate over 'if', it's just how, when, and where. I'm not letting your particular brand of paranoia infect me.

As a matter of fact, if your nation/state/region has assisted suicide laws, PM me, I'll be more than happy to lend a hand.

Ishmael

 

[Sean Renaud]

You're going to die moron, nothing can save you. There is no debate over 'if', it's just how, when, and where. I'm not letting your particular brand of paranoia infect me.

As a matter of fact, if your nation/state/region has assisted suicide laws, PM me, I'll be more than happy to lend a hand.

Ishmael

Thanks Ish. I never thought when I got here that I'd even stand on even footing with you. Now I wonder why you used to look so wise when you're really just what Vette used to be. I guess we all grow up and the people we looked up to eventually turn out to be just tiny, insignificant, ignorant people.

 

[bra_man69]

Thanks Ish. I never thought when I got here that I'd even stand on even footing with you. Now I wonder why you used to look so wise when you're really just what Vette used to be. I guess we all grow up and the people we looked up to eventually turn out to be just tiny, insignificant, ignorant people.

Yes coach someone like you does know all about tiny, insignificant and ignorant you just described yourself to a tee