Let's discuss the disposition of the monster thread...

[cymbidia]

It's closed.
No more posts will be added to it.

But do we mine it for info, trying to organize it all into coherent categories -or- do we simply leave as a testimony to where we've been and carry on from here?

Or something else entirely?

Let's discuss this please.

I had originally thought we (notice the "we" and not a "i"?) would mine it, copying out stuff of value and reposting it in individual threads.

MissT raised a really valid point though when she said even that much -and we all knows it a lot- may be disheartening to newcomers to ourbrand new Forum D).

What do you think?

I for sure don't want to begin to take the monster apart if it's not necessary, you know.

Do we leave it?
Mine it?
What?

C'mon chatty perverts... chime in please.

 

[Black_Bird]

Weeell. I was quite a bit put off by the size of the thread when I first started looking through it, so I never really looked through it much...

Mining some of the better info out would be nice, but it shouldn't be something that is taken to seriously... It should be causal. After all, this forum is going to attract new faces (like mine) to the discussion.

New faces, new opinions. New opinions... new discussion. We wouldn't want anybody to feel like the *old* opinions and discussion was the final word, would we?

 

[MissTaken]

Keep the thread, but I wouldn't put a lot of time and effort into tearing it down.

Those of you who have participated in the thread since the beginning are often able to refer back to posts and topics as needed.

Again, I believe that myself and other "newbies" much prefer the interactive element to the forum.

I also believe that those responding to questions enjoy that facet and some of us seem to be graduating from asking questions to offering responses.

Damn! I will miss it though.

 

[Dhalgren]

Hmm…as a complete reader over here…(hey, I barely post over there, either;} I pretty much know all that’s been discussed here.. in quite detail.

I just never felt the need to add anything for it felt complete about six times over again..simply going in a beautiful circle.
A polar entity which said its many things over again..like looking at your favorite horse going around and around on the carousal.

I found it rather enjoyable..especially when KM posts..shhh.

Maybe bring up an old link or two when someone has a very specific question..or doing a C/P for a purpose..seems more appropriate then bringing it all up now.

And I’m thinkin’ you might not even need people to tend threads.

They’ll just start be a happaslappajammin’ all by themselves with what all the posting going on..
~grins~

 

[cymbidia]

I think you're right, darlin'!



In fact, i'm feeling pretty damned euphoric this morning over this whole thing. I haven't stopped smiling since i turned the puter on and came tohave a peek... see if anyone posted to this forum...

My kids think i've been into the cognac, i'm sure, here in northern California at 9:19am.

 

[BlondGirl]

Cym, please edit your first post in the Mother thread to give a bit of its history and evolution into this. Then leave it intact as a sticky.
There is no telling how many people came here reading that thread who do not voice themselves. It is an incredible resource.

Editing out the fluff might be nice--losing the "hi there, how are ya's" and "you've got mail/pms" would certainly decease its volume. (Here, we seem to be a bit more mature about such juvenile fluffing of that thread--I am sooooo glad!) This might make it more readable. Do not dissect it. The flow would be impossible to keep in the break up and much would be lost--some of the most valuable aspects are the growth some of our "newbies" had in their explorations and questions and adventures.

Please please put the Mother thread as a sticky. It was always so easy to find before but now that it is closed, it is buried and will stay that way. It will also be inaccessible when the search function is disabled unless it is on top. That being first will be an excellent introduction for the serious SM enthusiast--both newbies and experienced folks included. The one's who don't bother to read it much aren't probably so serious.
(I am speaking from my own experience here. When I finally took the dive into persuing this hobby, I dove into every bit of information I could get!)

Pleae put it as a sticky, just to shut me up about it, if for no other reason.

Edited to remind myself that there is nothing monstrous about SM.

 

[Wizard]

Boy,I would miss the old thread I used to read it daily........I did watch it start, and watched it grow.......I say make it sticky to go back too.....

 

[cymbidia]

The Monster shall be a sticky, then until other voices chime in to protest it.


I miss it too, Wiz, even with our shiny brand spanking () new Forum to replace it. Like many of you, that single thread was the first and last thing i checked at Lit for many months. It was very special, like this place is already becoming.

 

[Wizard]

The Monster shall be a sticky, then until other voices chime in to protest it.


I miss it too, Wiz, even with our shiny brand spanking () new Forum to replace it. Like many of you, that single thread was the first and last thing i checked at Lit for many months. It was very special, like this place is already becoming.

Yea it is funny there are days I just don't have time to be here but when I do that was on my "To check " list.....lol <wiping tear>

 

[WriterDom]

I'd let it drift back to the last page. If anyone wants to read it, or if you want to refer someone to it, it can be done with one click to last page. Putting it as a sticky might cause a divide with the newcomers. Dividing the board into old school and new school. A sticky should be saved for something important yet temporary. That's my opinion anyway, but I can live with a sticky if that's what most want.

 

[BlondGirl]

Aren't there a couple of other boards that have permanent stickies? The personals board comes to mind here.

WD, the problem with letting the Mother-thread get buried is that newbies have to know this is here in the first place to investigate it. Simply reading a few postings here and there with references will not be enough. Unless, of course, you intend to put the link in your sig line permanently and always make sure that you have newbie-attracting threads that are on top every single day for people to find.

What are the numbers on that for having been accessed now? Let me see....
31369.
That is today. I would bet that the numbers of viewing continue to rise--not only from newbies but also from those of us who are trying to look back. I seem to remember a posting of certain toys by a certain someone and that is my frame of reference. If I don't have the "door" to find that toy picture, how on earth am I going to make a pair in my fave green leather or pseudo suede for my "friend" to bind me up with?

(Yes, I am being silly. But burying the easy access to Mother makes it a dead item.)

 

[monster666]

I for sure don't want to begin to take the monster apart if it's not necessary, you know.

Do we leave it?
Mine it?
What?

C'mon chatty perverts... chime in please.

Mine me if you like, use me, abuse me, but please PLEASE don't take me apart! It's not necessary! Promise!

 

[WriterDom]

I say open it up for a day or two. Give the newbies a chance to be a part of it.

 

[artful]

The Thread

I have no REAL preference to accessing it, making edits of the fluff, or leaving it as is,...but I wouldn't EVER want to lose it.

(JMHO),...but it's mine,...and I own it.

 

[lilredwolph]

ok i copied the whole monster to my HD and started mining and organizing, removing fluff and sorting blah blah blah, you get the idea. then my system CRASHED and i lost everything i had done to that point. honestly it's not that hard it just takes up alot of time (which right now i don't have much of)

 

[~Dream~]

Re: Re: Let's discuss the disposition of the monster thread...

Mine me if you like, use me, abuse me, but please PLEASE don't take me apart! It's not necessary! Promise!

will somebody PLEASE clue me in? just what the heck IS the Monster or Mother or whatever thread anyways?/anybody??

 

[cymbidia]

Re: Re: Re: Let's discuss the disposition of the monster thread...

will somebody PLEASE clue me in? just what the heck IS the Monster or Mother or whatever thread anyways?/anybody??

The M thread, dream, is the thread that spawned this forum.

In the middle of July, 2001, a thread was begun on the How To... forum entitled BDSM: Questions and Answers.

Those of us who were here and out as BDSMer's at that time began to populate it. Those people include, in order of appearance during the first month in the life of that thread:
me
Hecate
WriterDom
Wizard
RisiaSkye
(the recently reappeared) Blackbich
Merelan
lilfrk
Blondgirl
morningirl5
willfulbrat
Never

There were many, many other posters to that thread during its first month, some of whom were with us for only a few posts and some of who became a part of the fabric of the community we built so carefully in that place.

The thread was begun in July. It was, from its beginning, a place of warmth and caring and a place for the calm and rational discussion of matters that pertain to BDSM sexuality. It was a community, a place that had all the good points of any small insular community as well as the drawbacks - but we were content and happy there. For most of us, it was the place we checked first at Lit, in the morning when we awoke, and last, before we went to sleep.

One morning last February, we woke to find something new: the BDSM Talk Forum had...appeared. We rattled around for a few days, unnerved, afraid (c'mon--admit it), and mourning the loss of our warm, secure, known cocoon. Then we all took a deep breath and launched in to try to make this forum similar in fous to that thread.

This thread, this one here, is one of the very early attempts to understand and process and handle and deal with the disposition of what was versus what would be.

A link to the M thread (Mega, Mother, or Monster, take your pick) can be found in the sticky atop page one. Here's that link: http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39661

 

[~Dream~]

Cym....

Thank you kindly for explaining all that to me as I have a greater understanding and appreciation for all of you now also..


Dream

 

[zipman]

Make it a sticky

I say the Monster thread should be a sticky. I never even heard about it until a week ago, and I have been trying to work my way through it. Having it upfront would be educational for newbies, and would also avoid people posting questions which have already been answered.

I would also not edit it, as it is easy enough to scroll past the hello's.

 

[cymbidia]

The M thread is discussed and a link is provided from inside the forum intro sticky.

The M thread was a sticky all on its own.

Then people said, We have too many stickies! Get rid of them! Consolidate them into one!

So we did.




It is impossible to make everyone happy all the time round here so we do the best the we can for the greatest number of people.

 

[zipman]

The M thread is discussed and a link is provided from inside the forum intro sticky.

The M thread was a sticky all on its own.

Then people said, We have too many stickies! Get rid of them! Consolidate them into one!

So we did.




It is impossible to make everyone happy all the time round here so we do the best the we can for the greatest number of people.

I guess I just jumped into this forum without really looking around first - it would'nt be the first time and i doubt it will be the last!

I am sure that trying to make everyone happy is quite difficult indeed!!

 

[Daddyslilpet]

I've been here for several months now, and have had no desire as yet to read the M thread. That doesn't mean that someday I might decide I want to, and will do so.

Also, I have a question that is not meant to upset anyone, but... What difference does it make if something has been discussed before or not? I mean, new people come in and ask a question and are hit with "that's been discussed already" and links. Now links are helpful, I use them too. However, there are not an infinite number of topics we can discuss here, so if we limit threads to only new questions, we will run out of things to talk about and the forum will be used only a reference.

I like interaction, I ask questions, I do searches to see if the question I'm about to ask has already been asked....but should we expect that of everyone? I think that's asking too much personally. I understand that having the same questions asked over and over may get boring to those who've been here a while and/or been in the lifestyle for a long time. I'm just curious, that's all.

JMHO and questions

dixi

 

[zipman]

I've been here for several months now, and have had no desire as yet to read the M thread. That doesn't mean that someday I might decide I want to, and will do so.

Also, I have a question that is not meant to upset anyone, but... What difference does it make if something has been discussed before or not? I mean, new people come in and ask a question and are hit with "that's been discussed already" and links. Now links are helpful, I use them too. However, there are not an infinite number of topics we can discuss here, so if we limit threads to only new questions, we will run out of things to talk about and the forum will be used only a reference.

I like interaction, I ask questions, I do searches to see if the question I'm about to ask has already been asked....but should we expect that of everyone? I think that's asking too much personally. I understand that having the same questions asked over and over may get boring to those who've been here a while and/or been in the lifestyle for a long time. I'm just curious, that's all.

JMHO and questions

dixi

Hey Dixie,

We haven't really interacted at all, but now is as good a time as any. Your questions and your viewpoint are very valid. Perhaps it is a matter of preference for people. I think some people may be intimidated to ask, and might prefer to read and learn before they jump in. Others, like me, just jump right in.

I did not mean to suggest that someone can't ask a question that has already been asked. Of course they can, and they most definitely will.

I'm fine either way.

Zip

 

[cymbidia]

What difference does it make if something has been discussed before or not? I mean, new people come in and ask a question and are hit with "that's been discussed already" and links. Now links are helpful, I use them too. However, there are not an infinite number of topics we can discuss here, so if we limit threads to only new questions, we will run out of things to talk about and the forum will be used only a reference.

I like interaction, I ask questions, I do searches to see if the question I'm about to ask has already been asked....but should we expect that of everyone? I think that's asking too much personally. I understand that having the same questions asked over and over may get boring to those who've been here a while and/or been in the lifestyle for a long time. I'm just curious, that's all.

YES!

Yes yes yes yes yes YES!

New people bring new insights. They bring fresh ideas. They bring different perspectives. They cause the rest of us to rethink our old feelings and approaches. Additionally, revisiting subjects that one has discussed or thought about or worried over often leads to new thinking about the issues.

There are only so many time one can answer the question, My boyfriend and i want to get started in this. How do we do it? before it becomes automatic and one does not, in reality, give the answer much thought or care. (My answer: Go read. Talk to each other openly and honestly about what you want/need/fantasize about. Fill out one of those long-ass checklists and compare and share your answers. Go slowly. You have forever to investigate this and none of us ever stops learning.)

There are only a finite number of threads we who are past the "how do i do this BDSM thing" can talk about too, but there are an infinite number of versions of that finite number of threads.

Each of us has our own experiences and questions and feelings to add to those discussions.

I hate the thought of squelching even one of those voices.
I hate the thought of anyone not feeling they cannot be heard.

BDSM cannot really be done alone.
Until recently, it was impossible to do this in any way but skin-to-skin. I maintain that it's exceedingly difficult to do it for extended periods of time in an online-only environment. Occasionally, eventually, there has to be some skin-to-skin contact. That's in my world, of course. Yours may be different.

However, here, in this forum, we've limited ourselves to discussions of real-world oriented BDSM practices, or to the dicussion of those who intend to go into a real-world situation, or to those who are simply looking for info on this side of BDSM sexuality. There are a zillion places for chat room style BDSM play; this is not one of them.

I like interaction with others, those newer to this lifestlye and those who have been doing this awhile, those who've been around this place since it began and those who just arrived this week. I like to ask questions and answer them. I like to play with those i've come to know and trust here, and welcome new faces and new ideas into the party.

I don't think there's anyone here who feels differently.

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Hi Zip,

I've read your posts, find you to be a level headed person, and a kind person to boot. Great qualities from my view point. Thank you for understanding my post was meant as discussion not flame material...

I understood that you didn't mean to suggest that someone can't asking anything they want. It was a question I've thought of asking for months now, just finally got the courage to do so.

I agree that people will do and say what they feel like. I have seen it taken by people who came here to ask a question as a put off. Have even had people say to me on other boards that their questions weren't received well here, so they left. That's ok too, their choice.

Sorry for the highjacking cym.


dixi