Lesbians vs Male Gays

[dr_mabeuse]

We have a whole bunch of female homosexuals in the AH. How come there aren't any males? Are lesbians more social or are men more exlusive or what?

---dr.M.

 

[SadieRose]

No... the guys just seem to hang out on the GL&TGB more than here.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

We have a whole bunch of female homosexuals in the AH. How come there aren't any males? Are lesbians more social or are men more exlusive or what?

---dr.M.

A whole bunch?

I think it appears that way more than it may be. I only know of a few lesbians here. The rest would fall under the category of bi-sexual or bi-curious. Most of the ladies I see flirting here are married and just open-minded to playing around. I only know of one gay male and three or four bi-sexual males.

I think women, in general, are more social than men. Maybe gay males are more visually stimulated than mentally stimulated? Not sure.

~lucky

 

[Lauren Hynde]

To quote the title character in Glen Duncan's I, Lucifer:

"If you're gay, you go to Hell. Doesn't matter what else you spend your time doing - painting the Sistine Chapel, for instance - knob-jockey? Down you go. (Lezzers are borderline; room for manoeuvres if they've done social work.)"


That's why we're here more. Social work.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Hi Lauren.

 

[SadieRose]

Every day my job seems more and more like social work and less like education and culture.

I don't need the overtime! *LOL*

 

[cheerful_deviant]

I think Lucky has it right, women are just more social. Women will just sit around talking and gosiping while most men, at least the ones I know, will sit around and talk but they have to watch sports or drink at the same time. I can't see any of the men I work with on any kind of chat line except maybe ESPN.

I may be biased however. I work in construction and most of the men I know are not the most socially refined of citizens.

But as for me, lez, bi, straight or curious, this is the most interesting bunch of degnerates I have ever run into.

 

[minsue]

Yup, what they said! I think another part of why women openly flirt here and men don't would be that few straight people, aside from good ole juan , complain about women having sex with each other, but those same people have a fit over the concept of men having sex with each other. For some reason, a number of straight men love the thought of two women together (I'm assuming for the fantasy of being sandwiched between them ), but I have known few women who feel the same way when seeing two men together.

 

[minsue]

But as for me, lez, bi, straight or curious, this is the most interesting bunch of degnerates I have ever run into.

That's perfect, CD. I love it.

Nice AV, BTW

 

[cheerful_deviant]

Yup, what they said! I think another part of why women openly flirt here and men don't would be that few straight people, aside from good ole juan , complain about women having sex with each other, but those same people have a fit over the concept of men having sex with each other. For some reason, a number of straight men love the thought of two women together (I'm assuming for the fantasy of being sandwiched between them ), but I have known few women who feel the same way when seeing two men together.

Personally, gay males don't bother me, it's their choice, not mine. It just doesn't do anything for me personally. But almost every guy I know loves the idea of two women together (or 2 with them, even better).

But you're absolutly right, I hear the same guys talking about 2 girls together, then bashing gay males 2 minutes later. I just don't get it myself. Maybe I'm more in touch with my feminie side.

Now where is my loofa...

P.S. Thanks, minsue. Thats about as artistic as I get.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I think perhaps another answer may lie in openess. A lot of men I know are very guarded with themselves. They seem to take longer to open up and even when really comfortable with someone they always seem to have a bit of wary reserve.

I think perhaps gay men may even have a bit more of that reserve, as I know there is a good deal more hostility towards gay males.

-Colly

 

[Belegon]

I agree with the idea that many men can be very guarded. I also have a perception that many of us who do post have either had experiences that led us to reject some of what a friend of mine refers to as the "macho shithead school of (non)thought" or are a little older and more worldly, or both.

 

[A7inchPhildo]

We have a whole bunch of female homosexuals in the AH. How come there aren't any males? Are lesbians more social or are men more exlusive or what?

---dr.M.

Why dr M,

Nice Av, I have never kissed a man with a beard before. OOoh So sexy and strong you are


Nope sorry! I will stick to looking at Lauren's ass and a few others as well, thank you very much!

Not that men don't flirt, but if they do it is subtle until they are sure of the intentions of the other man. Then unlike most ladies men tend to stay in smaller groups not allowing newbies instant access to the group.

I am not gay as in Homosexual myself. It does not bother me to speak with gay friends of mine though. Simply put women are more by nature flirts so it is more accepted that they can carry on with publically showing affection for one another. Men are still cold hard and recluse so it is not Ok to show affection even if in a kind non sexual way.

You can keep the kiss and the rose if it makes you happy.


No you can't play with the Phildo though!

 

[Liar]

As pointed out, most of the lesbians you see here, are in fact either bisexual or just plain unashamedly flirty in general. And the most of the flirting you see going on, is not actual honest sexual interplay, or whatever that is called, but fun, social banter.

Take it from one who (check my bi bio ), given the right place and time, actually could flip you over for some fun n games: They're women, they are more prone to this banter in the first place. I don't pass off flirtatious remarks to men, because honestly, not even gay men seems to appreciate it. And I'm a guy. I'm more reserved about those kind of things.

Anyway, what you see here on the boards is mostly banter for laughs anyway. If I really mean to come on to you, I do so in private.

Want some PMs, hon?

#L

 

[Guest]

I'm just not picky; I'll flirt with anyone.

When I flirt on here, it's very very rarely a serious come on (note, I didn't say "never").

I do think it's that whole thing about women being more openly social animals. For me, it's more about displaying real affection than it is sexual feelings. I am straight (very much so, I LOVE men), but I have had one lesbian experience, and it was good. It is extremely rare that I find another woman sexually attractive to the point that I'd act on it - although there seriously are a few here that I would persue, for real. However, I do greatly appreciate the beauty of another woman, both physically and emotionally.

It's just easier, and more socially acceptable (at least around these parts) for a woman to flirt with another woman than it is for a man to say such things to another man. If a woman does it, she isn't seen as any less of a woman - it can be quite the opposite, in fact. Whereas, were a man to do it, the reaction (among most) would be quite different. I'm not saying that's right, at all, it's just unfortunately the way things are right now.

Then again, the few times it has happened here, the reaction has been very positive, and I found it to be quite a turn on. That's not because I find the thought of two men together horny (it just doesn't bring out any reaction in me), what I do react to is men displaying affection - in any way.

Another thing, when the women around here do it, it isn't usually seen as a joke (which, in fact, it often is), but when the men do it, it is almost always seen as a laugh. Maybe it's the way the things are said and in what context, but we just presume it's a joke.

For example, when Lew heavily came onto Dirtylover in the "orgy" thread, was he really joking?

Yes, of course he was, but he is one example of a straight man who is sexually very confident, and not afraid to display his feelings, and not at all bothered by what other people might think of him. Yes, he's macho, but he's not afraid to display his soft side and couldn't care less how his comments are perceived by others.

I know I'm talking about him in his absence, but I love that man.

Lou

Edited for a couple of typos, cos I'm fussy.

 

[CharleyH]

The truth of the matter?

Gay men are in the bathhouses, so they hardly have time to flirt here, and if gay women had 24/7 access to bathhouses, well, we'd be there instead of here too.

Just my opinion

 

[Guest]

Yeah, I think Loulou summed it up well. I still grin recalling the fooling about Pops and Earl used to do. I miss them both at present. I know Earl's still at uni, but Where is Pops?!

Perdita

p.s. Charley's right too.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, I think Loulou summed it up well. I still grin recalling the fooling about Pops and Earl used to do. I miss them both at present. I know Earl's still at uni, but Where is Pops?!

Perdita

p.s. Charley's right too.

I remember that and miss it, too. There have been a few, more recent, comments between Pops and Sub Joe, which were also great. AND, I've never been sure if it was really in jest.

I miss Pops, too, and Sub Joe hasn't been around a lot recently. Come back, please!

Lou

 

[gauchecritic]

I think it's more to do with expectation. If a bloke flirts with a woman he is always open to the possibility that something may actually happen, whilst women it seems, are content with simply flirting as an occurence in itself.

So even if a bloke is secure in himself he has no idea about the other bloke, only that it's possible that coming on strong could lead to heated disputes rather than affection.

I know a few women who find the idea of watching two blokes "shagging in the shower" a big turn on.

I'm not sure if I read it here or elsewhere but a guy admitted that he's once shagged his mate (another guy) whilst watching videos because he's asked him to, but that didn't mean he was gay. (actually I can understand that)

On the whole I think I'd rather be lesbian than gay.

Gauche

 

[Guest]

An aside: We've had discussion of this in the past, but Gauche recalled something important to me. Flirting as an 'art' used to be practiced equally among men and women. Everyone knew the rules and dynamics and no one was threatened, and most people appreciated it. Men and women both knew the nuances and could 'read' when it might be Ok to go further, or not.

It seems to me that women still know how to flirt, playfully or seriously, but most post-feminism men are confused, frightened, intimidated, etc. It's a shame.

Perdita

 

[cheerful_deviant]

It seems to me that women still know how to flirt, playfully or seriously, but most post-feminism men are confused, frightened, intimidated, etc. It's a shame.

Perdita

It's true. I think men have to be much more careful now. I know of a couple of cases in which employees or former employees (female) sued for sexual harassment. The guys involved thought it was just flirting, the women didn't. A little flirting can be a dangeros thing nowadays, one step too far and it's law-suit city.

I agree, it is a shame.

 

[Guest]

Cheerful, the workplace is one thing and I am glad there are different 'rules' now, but in social circumstances too, men seem to be either distant, hesitant, awkward or over the top. P.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

It's true. I think men have to be much more careful now. I know of a couple of cases in which employees or former employees (female) sued for sexual harassment. The guys involved thought it was just flirting, the women didn't. A little flirting can be a dangeros thing nowadays, one step too far and it's law-suit city.

I agree, it is a shame.

That is so true. There are many women though who do not know the difference between flirting and harrassment.

The men I've worked with over the years have always been gentleman, but we always had our repitoire of flirting and innuendo. It was always in fun and if they thought they had stepped out of line, they apologized. They were also quick to defend your honor if someone else who didn't know any better got crude or overtly sexual.

As written above, flirting is an artform and one I hope never grows out of style!

 

[CharleyH]

I think it's more to do with expectation. If a bloke flirts with a woman he is always open to the possibility that something may actually happen, whilst women it seems, are content with simply flirting as an occurence in itself.

So even if a bloke is secure in himself he has no idea about the other bloke, only that it's possible that coming on strong could lead to heated disputes rather than affection.

I know a few women who find the idea of watching two blokes "shagging in the shower" a big turn on.

I'm not sure if I read it here or elsewhere but a guy admitted that he's once shagged his mate (another guy) whilst watching videos because he's asked him to, but that didn't mean he was gay. (actually I can understand that)

On the whole I think I'd rather be lesbian than gay.

Gauche

Only because you love pussy - LOL

 

[Guest]

Only because you love pussy - LOL

Really, really cracking up here, Charlus.

P.