Lesbians Now Legally Parents After Insemination

[matriarch]

Lesbians Now Legally Parents After Insemination
By Amita Parashar

Children born through artificial insemination can now legally have two female parents at birth in Washington, D.C., thanks to a new law. Prior to the law, the female partner of a birth mother would have to adopt the child at birth to become a legal parent.

The District's Domestic Partnership Judicial Determination Parentage Act of 2009 allows a consenting spouse or partner to appear on the child's birth certificate as a parent without a complicated adoption process.

American University law professor Nancy Polikoff, who helped draft the legislation, noted that when a heterosexual married couple uses artificial insemination, the husband does not have to adopt the child.

"He is the child's legal parent automatically. Now the child of a lesbian couple will have the same economic and emotional security," she told The Washington Post. "A mother should not have to adopt her own child."

The law is the first of its kind in the country. A similar law goes into effect in January 2010 in New Mexico. The D.C. Council voted earlier this year to recognize out-of-district same-sex marriages and expects to debate marriage equality later this year.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

And the law means people will buy the fiction? How bout the kiddo? Think she'll buy it, too? I DONT LOOK LIKE YOU, I LOOK LIKE HER!

Nothing is too convoluted or twisted for you guys to try and prove youre not freaks.

 

[john-the-author]

Excellent! This is a good start!

 

[Liar]

JBJ: So... if that's your argument, you're also against this right for heterosexual couples who does the same thing?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

LIAR

Calm yourself.

It is possible to like Southern Comfort and dislike drunks.
Its possible to like monkey business and dislike monkeys and business.

 

[Liar]

And that is relevant here because... Stop tapdancing and say what you mean.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

LIAR

I always say what I mean, and I'm a hopeless provocateur (bomb thrower). I get really lonesome being the only human on the planet who works on his issues, its like being a lonely petunia in an onion patch.

But I'll say this so you have something to chew on: I doubt that 1 person in a thousand gives a fat rats ass who or what you stick in your body orifices. We have bigger fish to fry than your love life.

I'd prefer you keep it off the streets, like dogs who copulate or lick themselves do. I know gays who scratch their itch and move on to fixing lunch or ordering a book from Amazon or whatever. And there are the hordes who dress and decorate their homes-cars-dogs in early I'M QUEER AND I'M HERE costume. I live next door to one. A nice neighborhood punctuated with a carnival sideshow. I call it THE RAIN-BOWERY. So long as you carnivalize the lifestyle people think youre freaks.

And the pretense! Two women dont make babies. The whole goddamned show is dishonest and I hate it.

 

[matriarch]

And that is relevant here because... Stop tapdancing and say what you mean.

Liar, sweetheart, you know I love you but you're being very naughty. Stop poking the animals with sticks, it just makes them even more nasty than usual.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Excellent! This is a good start!

Yup. Sounds fair to me.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Does anyone here happen to remember when Nestle's added Taurine to their baby formula, and made big hay over how much better it was for babies now-- cleverly ignoring the fact that breast milk already had taurine in it, and always had? Someday it will be a perfect imitation of breast milk-- one ingredient at a time. They hope.

Civil union is just like that. One state at a time adds one or two rights that civil marriage already includes.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

And just like breast-feeding babies is the best way to just bypass all the pharmaceutical fumbling around, legalizing gay marriage is the quickest, surest way to equality of relationship. But, of course, it wouldn't sell as many papers!

 

[sadangel]

Lesbians Now Legally Parents After Insemination
By Amita Parashar

Children born through artificial insemination can now legally have two female parents at birth in Washington, D.C., thanks to a new law. Prior to the law, the female partner of a birth mother would have to adopt the child at birth to become a legal parent.

The District's Domestic Partnership Judicial Determination Parentage Act of 2009 allows a consenting spouse or partner to appear on the child's birth certificate as a parent without a complicated adoption process.

American University law professor Nancy Polikoff, who helped draft the legislation, noted that when a heterosexual married couple uses artificial insemination, the husband does not have to adopt the child.

"He is the child's legal parent automatically. Now the child of a lesbian couple will have the same economic and emotional security," she told The Washington Post. "A mother should not have to adopt her own child."

The law is the first of its kind in the country. A similar law goes into effect in January 2010 in New Mexico. The D.C. Council voted earlier this year to recognize out-of-district same-sex marriages and expects to debate marriage equality later this year.

Glad to hear it. Now to get 50 states to start making the same right decision. It's a long hard row to walk trying to get the same equal rights as the heterosexuals. I know that those of African American persuasion understand all too well, and still deal with much of it in their personal life. Now, it is time for the GLBT community to do the same, and push for SAME RIGHTS--it is NOT--SPECIAL RIGHTS! No matter how many want to say otherwise.

 

[Handley_Page]

Liar, sweetheart, you know I love you but you're being very naughty. Stop poking the animals with sticks, it just makes them even more nasty than usual.

Beautiful; made me laugh out loud.

Just one thing though. Most birth certificates have spaces for 'Mother' and 'Father'. If it is a lesbian couple, what does it have Parent 1 and Parent 2 ?

 

[Xelebes]

Beautiful; made me laugh out loud.

Just one thing though. Most birth certificates have spaces for 'Mother' and 'Father'. If it is a lesbian couple, what does it have Parent 1 and Parent 2 ?

I'm sure it goes something along the lines of Mother and Spouse.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Glad to hear it. Now to get 50 states to start making the same right decision. It's a long hard row to walk trying to get the same equal rights as the heterosexuals. I know that those of African American persuasion understand all too well, and still deal with much of it in their personal life. Now, it is time for the GLBT community to do the same, and push for SAME RIGHTS--it is NOT--SPECIAL RIGHTS! No matter how many want to say otherwise.

This is all warm & fuzzy until your kid sez I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR ESTEEM, MOMMY, WHO IN HELL WAS MY DADDY?

 

[Liar]

Just curious... In the vein of equality, what does Washington, D.C say about gay male couples and children? The nearest equivalence then being that one dad provides sperm for a surrogate mother.

 

[sadangel]

jbj...I won't quote you, too many people have you on ignore.

It has nothing to do with esteem, it has everything to do with equality. Try to pull your head out of your ass once in awhile and live in the real world where people actually try to give a damn about others.

Just curious... In the vein of equality, what does Washington, D.C say about gay male couples and children? The nearest equivalence then being that one dad provides sperm for a surrogate mother.

Good question Liar. Don't know the answer right off.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SADANGEL

Its entirely about esteem and the psychological needs of the 'parents' vs. the needs of the child. The 'parents' believe their political needs are more important.

 

[Irania]

******

 

[Guest]

Lesbians Now Legally Parents After Insemination
By Amita Parashar

Children born through artificial insemination can now legally have two female parents at birth in Washington, D.C., thanks to a new law. Prior to the law, the female partner of a birth mother would have to adopt the child at birth to become a legal parent.

The District's Domestic Partnership Judicial Determination Parentage Act of 2009 allows a consenting spouse or partner to appear on the child's birth certificate as a parent without a complicated adoption process.

American University law professor Nancy Polikoff, who helped draft the legislation, noted that when a heterosexual married couple uses artificial insemination, the husband does not have to adopt the child.

"He is the child's legal parent automatically. Now the child of a lesbian couple will have the same economic and emotional security," she told The Washington Post. "A mother should not have to adopt her own child."

The law is the first of its kind in the country. A similar law goes into effect in January 2010 in New Mexico. The D.C. Council voted earlier this year to recognize out-of-district same-sex marriages and expects to debate marriage equality later this year.

Wonderful.

 

[ms.read]

Child "who was my daddy, Mommy?"

"Dear, I will explain it to you when you are 12."

12 year old brother "Sibling, you and I came out of a test tube. We only have Mommy and Momma for parents."

JMO- it doesn't matter what sex, race, age, of the person parenting our children, as long as they can teach our kids the difference between right and wrong, and they can house, clothe, feed, and generally keep safe our kids."

It doesn't take one person to take care/ teach a child - it takes a family/ village.

 

[slyc_willie]

Child "who was my daddy, Mommy?"

"Dear, I will explain it to you when you are 12."

12 year old brother "Sibling, you and I came out of a test tube. We only have Mommy and Momma for parents."

JMO- it doesn't matter what sex, race, age, of the person parenting our children, as long as they can teach our kids the difference between right and wrong, and they can house, clothe, feed, and generally keep safe our kids."

It doesn't take one person to take care/ teach a child - it takes a family/ village.

A nice sentiment, but I think JBJ raises a good point. In the context of modern conservative thinking, anyway.

For the record, I agree to the principle that parents, regardless of their sexual orientation or lifestyle, have every right to raise their children so long as they are able.

The "normative ideal" for every family is that there is a Mommy and a Daddy and they provide necessary role models for their children. Mommy gives the child a basic set of values against which all other females are compared; Daddy does the same. Simple enough. Having two Mommies or two Daddies would disrupt that "normal" model.

But what about the increasing number of single mothers -- and some single fathers -- out there who raise the children on their own? They've been considered just as capable to raise a child -- or several -- from the get-go. So, Mommy having a same-sex partner to share the burden is bad thing? Or a Dad and Dada? Seems to me that a second parent, regardless of circumstances, would be a boon for all involved.

Certainly, some of these children growing up with same-sex parents will be teased. They may have gender assignment issues. So what else is new? All that happens now anyway. I'm sure there will be case studies made, and movies on Lifetime and various other networks about the hardships of a lesbian or gay couple raising a child/children. The conservative right will scream against the liberal left and vice-versa. Again, so what else is new?

Regardless of ranting from either side of the issue, this is an issue that has been anticipated for years. It was going to happen, and now that it has, will continue to be slowly spread throughout the developed world. It had to start somewhere, and its beginning, as with any revolution, isn't gonna be pretty.

 

[Handley_Page]

Does this Law imply that the couple have a "formal" union (civil partnership, etc..), or could it be a more casual arrangement.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SLICK

The issue is: THE CHILD HAS A FATHER, like it or dont. The child will be curious about the father. The child will discover that one of the parents isnt related to her at all by blood, that she's a pawn in the parents' political game. It also sows the seeds for alienation from the government. If the government can force two female parents on you it can force a master on you.