Laurel..

[Nobody Special]

Laurel could you please put this poem on Lit for me.. My Email is acting up and won't let me send out anymsgs at this time... so if you could I would appriciate it..

Thank you
E


A Letter to my Unborn child

Kia, My Child of lost
My heart has been ripped out and tossed
My first child to be unborn
I wanted so much to hold and keep you warm
My love is with you on this night
I just hope that your mother will be all right
I love her more every day and my love you does compare
I just wish that you were so that you know that we care
I will miss holding you tight, Watching you grow
Letting you learn, and most of all show..
My heart grieves for you my unborn child
I just hope that we meat again for a wile
To share the love that I have for you
To look back at what we could do
I do wish you were here for me to hold
Caressing your little body and kissing your little nose
You are in my heart never to leave
All I need to do now is live and believe..
I love you Kia, My child of lost

 

[DarlingBri]

NS & NSW

Please listen when I tell you that that is such a mistake. You folks are already Troll bait, and you know that. Do you really want horrible, hurtful feedback to your poem in your emails and loads and loads of 1 votes? C'mon.

Maybe you'd actually get what you need - a place to make a public statement about your loss in a supportive environment - here:

http://www.bornangels.com/

You can submit your tribute to your child there; lots of people will read it, and you will be protected from stuff you really don't need to be exposed to.

[Edited by DarlingBri on 04-16-2001 at 10:37 AM]

 

[Nobody Special's wife]

Thank you for you concern Darling Bri.. I will check out your site.. But I Respect Laurel enough to have my Poem here.. as far as the voting goes.. I don't really care.. all I know is that to this date it is the best poem that I have eevr writen and I would like to share it with the world.. and this is a good place to do so.. The Voting means nothing to me, I'm not a regular writer, as you may already know, I only have one other submission here and I don't even have a clue on how to get the voting relults..

and i know you are concerned about the trolls Emailing me.. but... if they email me Then I know who has trolled me and so forth..

I know..... Just please let me submit it to lit.. the place that is and has been helping me so much the last year and half..

But thank you again for your concern tho.. it is appriciated..

E

 

[Nobody Special]

Damnit did it again!!!!! LOL

E

 

[Gingersnap]

You both have so much pain to express right now. I am very concerned that as vulnerable as you are right now it would be so destructive to have to deal with callous attacks.

Spectrum (butterworth) has some grief groups for parents who have suffered similar experiences. I hope you will both consider them in the weeks to come. It helps to be with those who have similar feelings and thoughts. It is a safe place to express thoughts and cry in an atmosphere of love and understanding. Again I am deeply sorry to hear of Kia's death.

 

[Nobody Special's wife]

I don't give a fuck about the trolls

I love the poem that Ns has created for the baby and it should be on lit ...It gives some meaning of hope

 

[Madame Pandora]

NS and NSW –

I think saying that you don’t give a fuck about the trolls doesn’t make it true. You’ve responded to them. It puts others in the position of rising to your defense. It has created, over several threads, an ugly mess of insensitivity and unnecessary strife.

The poem come from NS’s heart, and as such cannot be judged critically.

However, you state that you think it should be on Lit. First, let me say that it IS on Lit. You have posted it here 3 times.

However, I don’t find it appropriate for the site. I think the site Bri suggested is more appropriate and the points made by Gingersnap are well taken.

Certainly you are a part of Lit here on the boards and you posted your poem here. But, the part of this site involved in the submissions of stories and such, are obviously geared for EROTICA and that is MOST CERTAINLY not what your poem is about.

Others have posted gentle hints out of kindness. Your poem, lovely with heartfelt feeling as it is, doesn’t belong on a porn site.

This is just my take on things, Laurel would have to make the final call. I think it would be appropriate for you not to put her in that position.

You have made the choice not to grieve privately, and that is your decision. However, imposing that grief over into other areas of the site outside of this BB is not necessarily suitable to Literotica in general.

MP

 

[Angel]

If you want me to, I will put it up on my site, as soon as I'm done with the new graphics set I'm in the middle of making. (When it's done, I'm redoing the entire site.)

Let me know.. it probably won't be until mid-May, but I'll get it up there.

 

[Nobody Special's wife]

Mp all I have to say at this moment is fuck you

NS and NSW –

I think saying that you don’t give a fuck about the trolls doesn’t make it true. You’ve responded to them. It puts others in the position of rising to your defense. It has created, over several threads, an ugly mess of insensitivity and unnecessary strife.

The poem come from NS’s heart, and as such cannot be judged critically.

However, you state that you think it should be on Lit. First, let me say that it IS on Lit. You have posted it here 3 times.

However, I don’t find it appropriate for the site. I think the site Bri suggested is more appropriate and the points made by Gingersnap are well taken.

Certainly you are a part of Lit here on the boards and you posted your poem here. But, the part of this site involved in the submissions of stories and such, are obviously geared for EROTICA and that is MOST CERTAINLY not what your poem is about.

Others have posted gentle hints out of kindness. Your poem, lovely with heartfelt feeling as it is, doesn’t belong on a porn site.

This is just my take on things, Laurel would have to make the final call. I think it would be appropriate for you not to put her in that position.

You have made the choice not to grieve privately, and that is your decision. However, imposing that grief over into other areas of the site outside of this BB is not necessarily suitable to Literotica in general.

MP

I do believe laurel has this choice and I do Believe she has a place for this poem its up to her....And frankly I just don't give a shit right now ....as for the trolls they can have there fun I'm tired of them and fighting with them ....

THE WIFE

 

[DarlingBri]

Angel...

That's a very kind offer.

NS & NSW - why say fuck you because people are suggesting that poetry about miscarriage doesn't belong on a PORN SITE?

Surely you can see the logic in that???

[Edited by DarlingBri on 04-16-2001 at 04:05 PM]

 

[CreamyLady]

~If you expect for me to show emotion...Fuck you I don't have any more to show..~

Yes, you do. Anger, and in this case, misplaced.

I am really sorry for your loss, and wish you and NS well. But, dear, enough is enough.

 

[Whispersecret]

Please take this the right way

Thank you for you concern Darling Bri.. I will check out your site.. But I Respect Laurel enough to have my Poem here..

Respecting Laurel has nothing to do with whether your poem should be posted in the poem area. It is good that you are proud of your poem. It is also good if it helps you deal with your grief. I don't think anyone thinks you're doing this for the votes.

What I do think is that you're seeking a strange sort of comfort from posting the poem. As MP mentioned, it IS posted here already several times. I see no benefit in posting it in the erotic poetry section. The people who care about you and your situation are HERE in the BB area and judging from the response on the other threads, they've already seen it.

I understand you are hurting now, but you should perhaps take a few days to put things in perspective. I know this will sound callous and unfeeling, but at five and half weeks you hadn't even begun to feel what real pregnancy is like. At that point, you aren't aware of the pregnancy at all, except for the times that knowledge flits into your brain like a happy surprise and you remember.

For many many reasons, you should be glad it didn't happen later.

Early miscarriages occur all the time, usually for good (medical) reasons. I had one myself, and yes, it was sad, but I knew that the baby probably wouldn't have survived. I didn't name it. I didn't write poems. I just tried to focus on trying again. And, I vowed not to jump the gun and blithely inform everyone under the sun that I was pregnant again until I was past that danger period.

I think you should withdraw your request to post the poem. It puts Laurel in a very awkward position. If she doesn't think it's appropriate for the site, how does she refuse without seeming cold and uncaring? Stop thinking of yourself and what you need. Don't do that to her. Be content with the fact that your poem has already been posted here. Or better yet, take Angel up on her kind offer.

I offer this advice with no mal-intent. Seek your solace in some other less public way and without putting someone else on the spot.

 

[Coggie]

NS & NSW

I am concerned that this may not be the best medium but I hope you find whatever peace and comfort you can, wherever you can.

Regards

Coggie

 

[Iris]

I don't know either of you well, but I know and empathize with someone who has suffered a loss. If you want to yell at me for this, so be it, but I agree with everyone else who's said it shouldn't be posted here.

For one thing, people come here to read about erotica, romance, and everything in between. What if someone reacts negatively to your poem being here? Wouldn't that just bring all the hurt and anger right back? If you want and need to heal, that won't help.

And yes, I didn't really want to say it, but it's possible to be 5 1/2 weeks pregnant and not even realize you're pregnant. It happened to my friend. She miscarried at what she estimated to be 8 weeks and never even knew, until that time, that she was pregnant. Her periods were always irregular, and, well, you get the idea. I know it hurts so badly because you wanted this baby so much, but it just wasn't meant to be...this time.

Your poem is wonderful because it comes from the heart. Not to run down this site, but I think there's more respectful places to post it than here. Porn is porn, love is love. There is a difference. Maybe you could make a site in tribute to your child and post it there?

 

[Guest]

Post it if you want but have someone edit it. Pick someone who's second language isn't English

 

[Xander]

Let it go will you. just let it go.

 

[Whispersecret]

Xander, we probably would have dropped it if NS hadn't started the thread in the first place.

 

[Nobody Special]

Gee People I ask one Question to some one on the BB.. I would have done it privately but I couldn't get my Emails to work... so I decided to ask Laurel, and even called to her on the BB.. and what do people say. Well it is not appropriat for a Literature site.. Yes I know it is also a porn site, but it is also a Literature site as well.. One that I'm proud to be a part of.. and I don't write that much, I don't have the time..

But I thought I was asking Laurel if it could go on the site and if she could Post it.. and that I would appriciate it if she did..

But I guess by Popular demand I will withdrawl the Request to have it submitted, tho it is still up to laurel if she would like it here or not.. it is her call and always has been..

E

 

[Angel]

Post it in Non-Erotic.

 

[Laurel]

Okay...I've added a Non-Erotic poetry category. I'll move NS's submission there. Sound cool?

 

[Cheyenne]

Okay...I've added a Non-Erotic poetry category. I'll move NS's submission there. Sound cool?

Sounds cool, and like you have a heart.

 

[Laurel]

Okay...I've added a Non-Erotic poetry category. I'll move NS's submission there. Sound cool?

Sounds cool, and like you have a heart.

Sorta does...wouldn't that be weird?

 

[CRaZy]

As always Laurel is the voice of reason. Well done. Everybody deals with grief in their own way and it isn't always logical to those outside that pain. It would be nice if people realised that.

 

[Kuddles]

Laurel...

You're a sweetheart!!

 

[Angel]

As always Laurel is the voice of reason. Well done. Everybody deals with grief in their own way and it isn't always logical to those outside that pain. It would be nice if people realised that.

Exactly. Everyone deals with shit like that differently, and whatever works as part of the grieving process.


I found that out the hard way.