Laurel help me...

[Andra_Jenny]

Here is the thread you wanted...

GAO Report a Lie
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/4/194239.shtml
What else is new with Democrats?

 

[crystalhunting]

Weiner Is a Whiner and a Liar
Dan Frisa
Monday, June 4, 2001
U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., has fit in rather nicely since he took office in 1999.
He seems like most New York members of Congress, especially those from New York City: a left-wing extremist.

No surprise that he not only replaced Sen. Chuckie "The Cheese” Schumer in the House, but he also learned at the feet of the master camera-hog himself, having served as Schumer’s top aide for years.

His mean-spirited partisan rhetoric laces his every public comment, and he didn’t disappoint last week when he flipped his lid during a press conference demanding an apology from the White House because, Weiner claimed, a government report exonerated the exiting Clinton staffers from having vandalized the people’s house upon leaving in January.

Wrong! No such report exists, and no government agency made any such claim, and Weiner the Whiner knew it.

He simply out and out lied during his tirade last week.

And he repeated the lie today on CNN’s Talkback Live when he asserted yet again that the General Services Administration issued a letter declaring that there were no reports of damage. They did no such thing. They merely stated that they had no reports in their possession, because they did no investigation.

I know from firsthand information that White House offices were left in shambles, vandalized and trashed. And Air Force One was looted, right down to the toothpaste.

Weiner knows this, too. But he doesn’t care, he just lies about it.

Can you imagine if a Republican Congressman had lied like Weiner?

Forget about it!

He’d probably be driven from office for having breached the public trust.

But not little Tony Weiner; you see, he learned from Schumer that the media is as leftwing as he is. In other words, they’re all on the same team!

As Schumer and Weiner raked in millions upon millions in campaign cash over the years, not only was he never taken to task by the media as they did to Republicans who also garnered great financial support, but the New York media actually ran admiring stories about their wonderfully prodigious fundraising ability, at the very same time they ran stories castigating conservatives such as yours truly.

And as the same media lauded Schumer and Weiner for passing the phony Assault Weapons Ban, which bans not a single firearm, they were assailing congressman who had the temerity to actually stand up and tell the truth: that Schumer and Weiner were complete liars and knew full-well that this legislation was a total charade and farce. They knew, because they wrote the bill, that the only way they could pass it was if it did absolutely nothing to affect the sale of those firearms.

The media is lazy. Never once did the New York media ever read and report about Schumer and Weiner’s lie. After all, they’re all on the same team.

And don’t expect the media to report on Weiner’s new big lie. After all, they’re on the same team of whiners and liars.


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1. I still don't see a list Andra...only another article.

2.All democrats are liars?..Hmmm..I was unaware that I was a stinking liar...Hmmm I didnt know that disagreeing with you...made me a "stinking liar".
3.Isn't this a common Republican tactic?...Demonizeing your opposition.
4.I have yet to see an itemized list.


CH

 

[Guru]

 

[Guru]

Funny how asking for a credible news source has killed this thread.

 

[Guest]

Funny how asking for a credible news source has killed this thread.

What can you expect, when the press slants the news their way its Fair & Balanced. When they don't agree with it its the Liberal Media.

 

[Ally C]

This thread is an act of vandalism. If you want a credible source, read it for yourself.

 

[Guru]

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by Laurel
...Do you condone the use of vicious lies to discredit the other party, or is it only oral sex lies that are worthy of impeachment?

I have never condoned lying at all but the practice you note has been the mainstay of the Democratic leadership's publicity campaign on virtually every issue for years.

And you might also note that they have yet to solve any of the problems which they constantly use as campaign issues. The issues keep them elected and that means the issues must be sustained for their political benefit and future politicial security, thus the problems must not be solved. Hence the present monumental effort on the Democratic leadership's part to stymie any potential solutions put forth by Republicans or anyone else.

As I said before, Bush was dealt a no-win situation here and you're proving my point by harping on it constantly and pointlessly.

And BTW, the impeachment was about perjury in the civil case and obstruction of justice, not about oral sex lies and lying to the American people. That debacle was brought upon Clinton by his blatant practice of lying, splitting hairs and redefining words to suit his purposes, e. g., oral sex isn't sex. The essence of his behavior implying that others are too stupid to make any judgements or assessments of his character and, sadly, far too many people were and are willing to accept that idea.

The same perjury, BTW, for which Clinton was found in contempt of court by the judge in the civil case but not until well after the impeachment circus was closed.

Now tell me again about equal justice under the law and how you support that concept? During the impeachment proceedings all I remember hearing was, "It's all about sex. That his private life. Leave him alone." The truth is, it was never about sex.

 

[Weevil]

As I said before, Bush was dealt a no-win situation here and you're proving my point by harping on it constantly and pointlessly.

But once again you're assuming that the damage was genuine. If there was no damage(Which you don't seem to be willing to entertain) beyond signs reading "Department of Strategery" then was Bush in a no-win situation?

I don't know what the Clinton staffers did. I'm even torn as to what I think happened(I'd like to think that no adult would vandalize the White House but it does sound like something the Weasels who associate themselves with Clinton might do) but I'm damn sure not going to say that it did happen with out damning evidence.

Until then I have to view it with a little bit of skepticism.

 

[Guru]

 

[Andra_Jenny]

No Newsmax is not the only source, just look at Fox archives, it was all there, but your source, probably salon ot the post or the times, obviously did not want to run it.

We go to newsmax first because cnn and dan rather broke our faith.

And most of what comes out on Newsmax and Drudge...


EVENTUALLY COMES OUT!



so there...

 

[Andra_Jenny]

God damnit Uncle Bill,

Evrytime I make a fucking point, I go to a new thread and you've made it better.

Maybe I should just shut the fuck up!

 

[CRaZy]

Because I am from Oz, I don't really mind what ya government does as long as the long range missiles aren't pointed at me (LOL) but I will say this...............

If Bush is lying......
at least Bill Clinton found something a hell of a lot more interesting to lie about!!!

 

[*Lazer*]

The reply with all the use of space was childish. It makes me think all the less of your attempts to argue a point intelligently. Please do not insult the other members of the board with your political fluffing of the Bush administration. If you have conclusive sources other then that one source reference them and let each reader decide for themselves.

 

[Guru]

 

[Andra_Jenny]

Guru, here is why I won't provide you anything!

More on sources…

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/7/201937.shtml

I know which are yours!

 

[crystalhunting]

No Zone of Privacy
John LeBoutillier
Friday June 8, 2001
The standards of tabloid journalism – where there are no standards whatsoever – has become the standard for all news organizations.
Where there used to be a line no one crossed, that line has now been completely obliterated.

Forty years ago every single member of the White House press corps knew that JFK was having affairs with a number of women. Yet this was never reported. In fact, it wasn't until the late 1970s – after Watergate opened the floodgates – that JFK's infidelities were presented to the American people.

Now look where we are: The two Bush girls are grist for the journalistic mill, and Mayor Rudy Giuliani's marital and bathroom woes are front-page news – by his own choice!

Yes, the families are part of the calculation a potential candidate now needs to make in choosing to run or not. All family members are open targets. Kids, siblings, parents, spouses – they are now all put in the public eye.

And, in some cases, they should be. Hillary Clinton’s brother – Hugh Rodham – was living in the White House during the last few weeks of the Clinton presidency and, we now know, was selling pardons for cash! This information should be made public. He had White House stewards serving him dinner each night in the Map Room. In other words, taxpayer-funded servants were waiting on Hugh Rodham while he and Bill Clinton were 'selling' pardons!

In last year's presidential campaign we had another level of 'news' never quite seen before: Both Al Gore's and George Bush's college grades became part of the public record – as did Bush's on-campus behavior while at Yale.

Never before have the media gone that far back into a candidate’s background.

The saga of Jenna and Barbara Bush is yet another instance where what used to be a private matter has become front-page news – and not just in the National Enquirer but in all papers.

Ironically, as the so-called mainstream media have lowered themselves, the National Enquirer and the Star have actually broken more legitimate news stories than anyone else. In the OJ case, the Jesse Jackson love child case, the Arnold Schwarzenegger groping case and many others recently, it is this 'tabloid' paper that has scooped the New York Times and the Washington Post.

In the eyes of the public there is no difference between the tabloids and the other supposedly more legitimate news organizations.

Did you know that each week more people read the National Enquirer than read Time and Newsweek combined?

And the 'tabloid' TV shows have also cut heavily into the viewership of the Big Three Networks' evening newscasts.

Where is it all headed?

Basically, if you choose to enter public life by running for office, there are no boundaries for the inquiring media. None! Be prepared for the snooping-through-the-trash – and for old romances, failed spelling tests and even set-ups to ensnare you in a bad headline.

The good news?

The public doesn’t care much. The people seem to want a "zone of privacy" for public officials. And the public deplores the media's conduct in almost all instances.

That is the biggest development of all: The American people have grown to loathe the press.

It's about time!

1. I have yet to see an itemized list of damage....I still only see drivel from this right-wing publication

2.But of course the whole press is one big conspiracy to only tell one side of any and all stories.....PURE BULLSHIT.


3.I guess the next time I see an article in the Enquirer about someone who spoke to jesus or about the current fuckbuddies of Satan....I really should give it credibility...YEAH RIGHT!!!!

4. If you are so convinced that Democrats are scum...and a one party system would be perfect....then perhaps Afganistan would be a perfect place to immigrate....cause It wouldn't be much different here...If Rep ran the whole show...after all...anyone with a brain knows that the Rep party is ran by the religious fanatics at this moment.

5.I am no more a liar than you Andra....but I am a democrat....and proud of it.

CH

 

[*Lazer*]

This is total crap!!! You make all these accusations and yet offer nothing but fanatical rantings to support it. Where are the reports from the FBI or other "nonpolitical" sources. Crystal has it right. I have never considered myself aligned with one political party. However if you and UncleBill are an example of what the right wing is about consider me Bill"s best bud!!!!

 

[Guru]

 

[Guru]

 

[crystalhunting]

THANK YOU GURU.....

Hmmmm....I wonder who is truly the liar in this case.




CH

 

[Guru]

 

[Andra_Jenny]

But an important point missed is that these allegations came from Newsmax et al and then Bush was asked about these things. Also not loss of ratings, etc., for CNN and then traditional broadcast media while Fox and other, less biased sources gained ground. I would submit that especially from the election many middle class were apalled at the blatent one-sidedness of what had been known as the Clinton News Network.

Furthermore, as I pointed out to Laurel orginally, the Bush Camp did not bring it up first.

Also Newsmax or a Rush Limbaugh will tell you that they are conservatives and presenting a conservative viewpoint. Brokaw, Jennings, Blather, Woodruff, et al, on the other hand, will not step up and admit they are LEFTISTS!










as per Horowitz

 

[Guru]

 

[*Lazer*]

Oh give me a break and let it lay A.J.

I think I'll invite Bill and Hil over for burgers on the grill.