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[logophile]

Well it's wonderful to know that most posting here would think me a bad mother.

We do what we can with the information we have, Crim.
No one here has indicted you.
And no one will.

 

[Guest]

Hey, ladies. I was just wondering if what you think of foreskins: Good or bad? Why as well.

Are those like tater skins or are they more like pork skins cause i really like tater skins specially with lots of butter, cheese and bacon on em and stuff but pork skins are only good if their cooked really long so their crispy and stuff cause if their not then their mushy and its like eating gross stuff and makes me throw up and stuff.

Debbie

 

[OhMissScarlett]

Well it's wonderful to know that most posting here would think me a bad mother.

of course not, Crim. When my son was born, I had him circumcised based on the advice of his pediatrician and every man and woman in my family.

At that point, it wasn't even something I would've questioned. Since then, I've become more well-informed and regret the decision, but there's nothing I can do about it now. I've never met a circumcised man who mourns the loss of his foreskin, though I hear they have a website.

 

[Guest]

Well it's wonderful to know that most posting here would think me a bad mother.

No, but I may pull the stick out of your ass and beat you with it.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Stick in my ass?

I was simply going by how vehement everyone was in their stance against it. Makes it sound like you would have thought anyone who did that to their child was a monster.

 

[Guest]

Stick in my ass?

I was simply going by how vehement everyone was in their stance against it. Makes it sound like you would have thought anyone who did that to their child was a monster.

Nope. The stick's still there.

Crim, you shouldn't be taking this personally. Forgive my smart-ass comments but I'm in such a mood this evening. Did my brother blame our parents? No. Does my husband blame his parents? No. In the U.S. today more children are circumcised than non-circumcised. I worry because my young son (with his most impressively-sized Mr. Snuffalupagus-shaped dick) will be in the minority in the high school locker room. Nobody better say a fucking word.

If the question comes up I do try to offer information to anyone who asks. Maybe they haven't read the latest research on the procedure.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Not a problem with educating anyone. But strong statements like horribly cruel and genital mutilation are not going to make a mother feel very good if all three of her boys are cut. Simple fact. No stick.

 

[AppleBiter]

Not a problem with educating anyone. But strong statements like horribly cruel and genital mutilation are not going to make a mother feel very good if all three of her boys are cut. Simple fact. No stick.

I will say this and this only on the subject, and then I am done. Crim -- you should not feel guilty for the choice you made regarding your boys. There is a debate out there, obviously, over the keeping or removing of the foreskin. But, you should not feel badly for decisions that you made as a parent because others may not agree with them. Should I have a male child, I will have him circumcised. Other people may think that's monsterous or cruel or whatever, but it's my decision to make, as it was yours. I don't feel the need to defend it to anybody and neither should you. (not that I'm telling you what to do)

I'm not commenting any further on this topic one way or the other. Neither side will convice the other and it's a pointless debate for that reason. It depends on how you view the issue, period, and people are as different as fingerprints. It's good that way -- diversity makes the world go 'round. That having been said, I feel that I've stated my opinion, whether that opinion is popular or not, and I don't choose to debate the matter. I just wanted to make that clear to anyone who wants to further this discussion with me: I'm opting out.

 

[logophile]

Crim -

I've been staring at your post for a few minutes trying to figure out what to say in way of an apology for unintentionally making you feel bad but I'm afraid that anything I write is only going to make it worse. It's hard for me because I believe what I've said, but I also don't believe that you're a bad mother.

My oldest would have been circ'd had she not been a girl. I left the decision to my husband and didn't do any reading or research. My second might have been circ'd had she not been a girl because my husband and I were in negotiations about it when she was born. I had started learning about newborn consciousness and birth trauma at that point. I must say that I agree with Sarahhh about it being a matter of education.

I don't think you're a bad mother. I think you did what we all do - make the best decision for your family that you can with the information you have. You've done well, Crim. I certainly wasn't trying to imply anything different.

And just one more thing - I came on strong this morning because I was incensed at the original responses to this thread. They were juvenile at best and insulting in reality. Calling an intact penis a sharpei or saying "Me No Likey" was offensive. I am usually much more careful in my dealings on this subject, trying not to offend others who have chosen differently. I should have been more sensitive and for that, I apologize. And for making you feel bad, though it was unintentional, I apologize as well.

 

[AppleBiter]

Calling an intact penis a sharpei or saying "Me No Likey" was offensive.]

Okay, one more thing: This thread was asking my own personal sexual preference -- I don't see how stating "me no likey" is offensive. I don't prefer it. It's just like if a man said "me no likey" about pink nipples. I feel that since the originator of this thread was asking my personal opinion on the sexual attractiveness to me, personally, regarding uncut penises, my straight, honest opinion would suffice. I don't think I'm a horrible person for my sexual preferences and I'm sorry if you found my stating my opinion to be offensive. It certianly wasn't meant to be taken personally. I really didn't think anyone would put that much stock into whether I likey cut or uncut cock. *shrugs* Some chicks like it, some don't.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Crim -

I've been staring at your post for a few minutes trying to figure out what to say in way of an apology for unintentionally making you feel bad but I'm afraid that anything I write is only going to make it worse. It's hard for me because I believe what I've said, but I also don't believe that you're a bad mother.

My oldest would have been circ'd had she not been a girl. I left the decision to my husband and didn't do any reading or research. My second might have been circ'd had she not been a girl because my husband and I were in negotiations about it when she was born. I had started learning about newborn consciousness and birth trauma at that point. I must say that I agree with Sarahhh about it being a matter of education.

I don't think you're a bad mother. I think you did what we all do - make the best decision for your family that you can with the information you have. You've done well, Crim. I certainly wasn't trying to imply anything different.

And just one more thing - I came on strong this morning because I was incensed at the original responses to this thread. They were juvenile at best and insulting in reality. Calling an intact penis a sharpei or saying "Me No Likey" was offensive. I am usually much more careful in my dealings on this subject, trying not to offend others who have chosen differently. I should have been more sensitive and for that, I apologize. And for making you feel bad, though it was unintentional, I apologize as well.

Yes, it was the wording that brought out the feelings. I know that those who are anti-circ can be very passionate. I know you didn't intend to make me or any other mother feel badly. I end up taking stuff like this personal when I shouldn't because I know it's not an attack on anyone.

 

[Guest]

This is a serious topic. And one that cannot be easily debated on a porn forum.

And most of us realize we will not change anyone else's opinions because of a few heated posts or research links.

Personally (please close your ears if you are not interested) I wonder about the future of this type of surgery. As it is now determined to be "elective", I imagine insurance companies will soon refuse to pay for the procedure. And perhaps that will finally force people to become more interested in the efficacy of circumcision rather than just expecting it as status quo for all male newborns.

(Much as many women expect routine episiotomies during childbirth.)



Anyway - who wants a beer?

 

[Brinnie]

im in!

 

[mack_the_knife]

My $0.02

As the proud owner of a penis. I am glad I am circumsized, be damned with what the Europeans are doing, I sleep with American girls for the most part and I don't feel like I want to waste my time trying to 'educate' them when they get a look at what they might see as an odd looking bit. I have absolutely no problem with sensativity, and if it makes one come faster, then I'm damn skippy glad that I don't have the damn thing, because I already enjoy it too much on the ocassion.

I don't have to worry about the issue so far as my children, as I have been 'snipped,' but if I had had a boy, he would have gone under the knife as well. I've been blessed with two lovely daughters, which amazes me because I should have been flat unable to come without that flappy little chunk of skin stapled to the end of my dick. All the pierced people out there should be happy that we start practicing body mods on our little tykes right out of the blocks.

Now, I'm gonna go out and kill someone to get even with my parents for traumatizing me.

I challenge someone to prove to me that having is better than not with clinical evidence not some putz telling me his is twice as nice, hump a mile in my dick before you tell me yours makes you feel better.

I know. I'm not a woman. But this whole mutilation talk stuff is a bit much for anyone male or female

 

[Guest]

My $0.02

As the proud owner of a penis. I am glad I am circumsized, be damned with what the Europeans are doing, I sleep with American girls for the most part and I don't feel like I want to waste my time trying to 'educate' them when they get a look at what they might see as an odd looking bit. I have absolutely no problem with sensativity, and if it makes one come faster, then I'm damn skippy glad that I don't have the damn thing, because I already enjoy it too much on the ocassion.

I don't have to worry about the issue so far as my children, as I have been 'snipped,' but if I had had a boy, he would have gone under the knife as well. I've been blessed with two lovely daughters, which amazes me because I should have been flat unable to come without that flappy little chunk of skin stapled to the end of my dick. All the pierced people out there should be happy that we start practicing body mods on our little tykes right out of the blocks.

Now, I'm gonna go out and kill someone to get even with my parents for traumatizing me.

I challenge someone to prove to me that having is better than not with clinical evidence not some putz telling me his is twice as nice, hump a mile in my dick before you tell me yours makes you feel better.

I know. I'm not a woman. But this whole mutilation talk stuff is a bit much for anyone male or female

I'm not expressing a preference or stating that cut/uncut causes the owner to enjoy better sex.

Nope.

I'm just wondering if the process is even needed in the first place. Pediatricians have said for the past thirty-four years it isn't. That's all.

(But if it were needed, please doctors use some fucking anesthetic when you do it.)