Ky. Law Makes Protesters Back Off Funerals

[Colleen Thomas]

This is beautiful news, but short-lived, I'm afraid.

We had the same law in Kansas. The Phelps crowd challenged it (remember, a great many of the family are lawyers and brilliant people, if horrific assholes) and they actually won.

It was declared unconstitutional and they are back protesting.

Bastards.

One would hope that the legislators who wrote this one, took into account the ruling on the Kansas act. Laws often evolve along thses lines, with successive measures written more narrowly or broadly to meet the criteria the former law failed on.

As an example, take the Dakota abortion ban. Should it be struck down because it fails to make provision for the mother's life, as I suspect it will, the next attempt would obviously be nothing but the same bill, resubmitted, iwth an addendum that exception had to be made in the case of problem pregnancies where the mother's life was endangered. If it were struck down in that form, for som eother violation, that too would be addresssed in the rehashed thrid attempt.

Of course, the best thing that could happen would be for Phelps and his simian accomplices to be physically attacked. In that case, his protests would then represent a pulic safety issue and within that context, the state would have infinetly more leeway to curtail his activites. Alternately, a state could simply pass a law that requires a permit to protest at funerals. It could then set the fees and restrictions in such a way to make it virtually impossible to get one, Similar to the way getting aprivate carry liscence in NY was impossible to obtain pre 9-11.

There is a way, within the bounds of the system, to stop this ass wipe. It may take legislatures several tries, but eventually, a restriction, carefully worded to meet the demands of the courts, will appear.

Assuming he dosen't try his crap in Mississippi, where every person can carry a firearm in their cars and he needed killing is still a valid excuse. And if anyone ever needed it, Phelps does.

 

[rgraham666]

They need a new hobby.

Dying seems a useful one.

 

[Boxlicker101]

One would hope that the legislators who wrote this one, took into account the ruling on the Kansas act. Laws often evolve along thses lines, with successive measures written more narrowly or broadly to meet the criteria the former law failed on.

As an example, take the Dakota abortion ban. Should it be struck down because it fails to make provision for the mother's life, as I suspect it will, the next attempt would obviously be nothing but the same bill, resubmitted, iwth an addendum that exception had to be made in the case of problem pregnancies where the mother's life was endangered. If it were struck down in that form, for som eother violation, that too would be addresssed in the rehashed thrid attempt.

Of course, the best thing that could happen would be for Phelps and his simian accomplices to be physically attacked. In that case, his protests would then represent a pulic safety issue and within that context, the state would have infinetly more leeway to curtail his activites. Alternately, a state could simply pass a law that requires a permit to protest at funerals. It could then set the fees and restrictions in such a way to make it virtually impossible to get one, Similar to the way getting aprivate carry liscence in NY was impossible to obtain pre 9-11.

There is a way, within the bounds of the system, to stop this ass wipe. It may take legislatures several tries, but eventually, a restriction, carefully worded to meet the demands of the courts, will appear.

Assuming he dosen't try his crap in Mississippi, where every person can carry a firearm in their cars and he needed killing is still a valid excuse. And if anyone ever needed it, Phelps does.

Maybe somebody could set off one of their beloved and God-blessed IED's right where Phelps and his crowd are standing.

There are ways that demonstrations can be limited but they can't be banned. First Amendment, and all. However, if it can be shown that the purpose is just to disrupt or intimidate or other such negative thing, they can be required to keep their distance. Protestors outside Planned Parenthood and similar places are limited that way.

Besides which, if the cemetary is private property or a military base, the Phelps crowd might be arrested for trespassing if they show up. The best solution, though, woud be a couple of masked people with assault rifles.

 

[ElizabethWest]

Maybe somebody could set off one of their beloved and God-blessed IED's right where Phelps and his crowd are standing.

There are ways that demonstrations can be limited but they can't be banned. First Amendment, and all. However, if it can be shown that the purpose is just to disrupt or intimidate or other such negative thing, they can be required to keep their distance. Protestors outside Planned Parenthood and similar places are limited that way.

Besides which, if the cemetary is private property or a military base, the Phelps crowd might be arrested for trespassing if they show up. The best solution, though, woud be a couple of masked people with assault rifles.

The funeral tomorrow is public property. Both the funeral home where the service is to be held and the cemetery where the interment will occur are free access to all. I may have to mosey over there with my American flag and have a look.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

While I don't care for loopholes around the First Amendment and all, I understand the temptation in this case. I, for one, am tempted to wait for Phelps to croak and hold signs at his funeral that show him reincarnated as a cockroach.

 

[ElizabethWest]

While I don't care for loopholes around the First Amendment and all, I understand the temptation in this case. I, for one, am tempted to wait for Phelps to croak and hold signs at his funeral that show him reincarnated as a cockroach.

Awesome thought!

 

[rgraham666]

I'm going to take back all the nasty fates I wished on Mr. Phelps.

Not because I now agree with him, but because by wishing the things I did I was being no different than him.

'What you resist, you become' and all that.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Like I said, Phelps is gonna have to pay for what he's doing. I predict that in his next life, he'll be a gay soldier.

Karma's a powerful thing. Just ask Earl.

(No, not OUR Earl!)

 

[ElizabethWest]

Like I said, Phelps is gonna have to pay for what he's doing. I predict that in his next life, he'll be a gay soldier.

Karma's a powerful thing. Just ask Earl.

(No, not OUR Earl!)

Ever heard a redneck with a British accent? Bet that would be interesting.

 

[Guest]

One would hope that the legislators who wrote this one, took into account the ruling on the Kansas act. Laws often evolve along thses lines, with successive measures written more narrowly or broadly to meet the criteria the former law failed on.

As an example, take the Dakota abortion ban. Should it be struck down because it fails to make provision for the mother's life, as I suspect it will, the next attempt would obviously be nothing but the same bill, resubmitted, iwth an addendum that exception had to be made in the case of problem pregnancies where the mother's life was endangered. If it were struck down in that form, for som eother violation, that too would be addresssed in the rehashed thrid attempt.

Of course, the best thing that could happen would be for Phelps and his simian accomplices to be physically attacked. In that case, his protests would then represent a pulic safety issue and within that context, the state would have infinetly more leeway to curtail his activites. Alternately, a state could simply pass a law that requires a permit to protest at funerals. It could then set the fees and restrictions in such a way to make it virtually impossible to get one, Similar to the way getting aprivate carry liscence in NY was impossible to obtain pre 9-11.

There is a way, within the bounds of the system, to stop this ass wipe. It may take legislatures several tries, but eventually, a restriction, carefully worded to meet the demands of the courts, will appear.

Assuming he dosen't try his crap in Mississippi, where every person can carry a firearm in their cars and he needed killing is still a valid excuse. And if anyone ever needed it, Phelps does.

They have been attacked. Many times, actually.

I do remember once in Lawrence when they were protesting at KU (Gay-U, they call it) a gal in a red pickup truck drove up on the sidewalk and right through the group. Some minor injuries, if I recall.

But funny as hell to see them scatter.

Like cockroaches.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Awesome thought!

Thanks.