Kneeling, Crawling, and Other Dreadful Things

[NemoAlia]

I hate to kneel. It's awkward, uncomfortable, silly, boring, and usually involves domesticated animals coming to investigate an invasion of their altitude.

But more than having to kneel, I hate being expected to crawl. It's all the awkwardness and discomfort of kneeling with the added confusion of how to do it in the first place. I mean, seriously. In fiction, crawling is always graceful (even if it's tear-stained). Roquelaire-style crawling involves swaying hips, delicate blushes, and dampening vaginas. But in my own experience, being ordered to crawl is the beginning of an interior monologue that goes like this:

Fuck.
This floor is dusty.
Should I look forward?
Wait, it's left-arm, right-leg... then switch. I think. Or is it the other way around?
Oh, there's that sock I couldn't find.
Ouch, my wrist!
Should I pick up my feet? Brace my toes on the floor like a sprinter about to take off?
Or just drag my legs behind me like a landlocked mermaid?
I can't believe he likes it when I do this.
Who knew the hallway was this long?
When I get to that bed, I'm going to cocoon myself in those covers and never come out. Sex is overrated in the first place.

Anyone have any tips on improving the crawling experience? I keep thinking that if I learned to feel graceful (or even remotely attractive) while doing it, I might enjoy it more.

Of course, if you have no helpful advice but just want to throw an odd "Poor baby" my way, that would be nice too!

 

[the captians wench]

I hate to kneel. It's awkward, uncomfortable, silly, boring, and usually involves domesticated animals coming to investigate an invasion of their altitude.

But more than having to kneel, I hate being expected to crawl. It's all the awkwardness and discomfort of kneeling with the added confusion of how to do it in the first place. I mean, seriously. In fiction, crawling is always graceful (even if it's tear-stained). Roquelaire-style crawling involves swaying hips, delicate blushes, and dampening vaginas. But in my own experience, being ordered to crawl is the beginning of an interior monologue that goes like this:

Fuck.
This floor is dusty.
Should I look forward?
Wait, it's left-arm, right-leg... then switch. I think. Or is it the other way around?
Oh, there's that sock I couldn't find.
Ouch, my wrist!
Should I pick up my feet? Brace my toes on the floor like a sprinter about to take off?
Or just drag my legs behind me like a landlocked mermaid?
I can't believe he likes it when I do this.
Who knew the hallway was this long?
When I get to that bed, I'm going to cocoon myself in those covers and never come out. Sex is overrated in the first place.

Anyone have any tips on improving the crawling experience? I keep thinking that if I learned to feel graceful (or even remotely attractive) while doing it, I might enjoy it more.

Of course, if you have no helpful advice but just want to throw an odd "Poor baby" my way, that would be nice too!

I do know the feeling. You always read about how happy and beautiful some on looks when they crawl around, but it's just like sex. I mean think about it. How many times have you read a story where one of the characters stubs a toe on the metal bed rail because they were too involved in a kiss to realize there was a bed there. Or slipped in the shower while trying to masterbate their loved one, cause damnit those tub floors can be slick. Or one better, how many times have you read about a guy lifting a girl up in the thrills of pasion only to drop her on her ass because she's too heavy for his scrawny butt! (yes that was an experence, and it took a new corset, a box of chocolates and three shopping sprees because I actually was loosing weight to recover from that one) The truth is, sex in most cases isn't graceful but when we loose ourselves in the moment and stop thinking about how ungraceful it really is, that's when it feels like the most elegant ballet.

when some one first told me that I was not allowd to walk for the day, that I was to be a floor pet the whole idea took me quite by surprize. First think I started asking myself how should I act? how should I sit? where do I keep my hands? do I crawl or sort of leap a bit hands first then feet? which side do I heal on? do I look okay? head up or down? am I allowd to use my hands at all? It wasn't until I stopped thinking about all of these things and just let go and fully delve into the moment that I started to enjoy it. Yes crawling is still hard on the knees, but there's nothing I like better than kneeling beside one of my dom friends and just resting my head on his knee while he strokes my hair. But that's just me. I hope this helped some.

 

[NemoAlia]

It wasn't until I stopped thinking about all of these things and just let go and fully delve into the moment that I started to enjoy it.

See, now I'm just jealous. I have never figured out how to reach this crawling Nirvana. Is there some sort of meditative discipline designed specifically to allow a sub to get into the crawling moment? Is it a question of who's giving the crawl order? Is it a conscious decision to turn off your extra-curricular thoughts?

And really, do you keep your head up when you crawl? And what do you do with your feet?

 

[chris9]

See, now I'm just jealous. I have never figured out how to reach this crawling Nirvana. Is there some sort of meditative discipline designed specifically to allow a sub to get into the crawling moment? Is it a question of who's giving the crawl order? Is it a conscious decision to turn off your extra-curricular thoughts?

And really, do you keep your head up when you crawl? And what do you do with your feet?

Why don't you ask him if he prefers you crawling head up or down, and how to place your feet? Personally I'd do it head in line with back, looking down, and feet dragging behind. But since you're doing it to please him, you can as well ask how exactly you're supposed to do it.
Maybe you can also try to actively focus your thoughts on how it pleases him, how you like to please him, even do things you don't like so well because it pleases him. Banish those 'dirty floor, lost sock' thoughts from your mind.

 

[the captians wench]

Maybe you can also try to actively focus your thoughts on how it pleases him, how you like to please him, even do things you don't like so well because it pleases him. Banish those 'dirty floor, lost sock' thoughts from your mind.

BINGO! That's exactly it. It's not about how you look, it's about how he thinks you look. He aparently thinks is very hot and it pleases him to see you do it. Take pleasure in his pleasure, and try to put your own worries aside. I know it's hard to do when the stray penny sticks to your knee, or you go to brush back your hair and find that you now have a smudge on your cheek because your hands are so dusty, but he's enjoying it, so enjoy him enjoying you.

Now for the physical side. I always drag my feet behind me, more like a baby crawls than an animal. Also I vary between head up and head down. And the doms that have requested this of me seemed to like my head up better because it made me look prouder I guess, but it's hard on the neck, so unless ordered to keep my chin up, I usually kept my head down and eyes on the floor infront of me....trying to avoid pennies *giggles*

 

[graceanne]

Fuck.
This floor is dusty.
Should I look forward?
Wait, it's left-arm, right-leg... then switch. I think. Or is it the other way around?
Oh, there's that sock I couldn't find.
Ouch, my wrist!
Should I pick up my feet? Brace my toes on the floor like a sprinter about to take off?
Or just drag my legs behind me like a landlocked mermaid?
I can't believe he likes it when I do this.
Who knew the hallway was this long?
When I get to that bed, I'm going to cocoon myself in those covers and never come out. Sex is overrated in the first place.

ROFLMAO

I don't have anything productive to say. With the arthritis in my knees and hips if I crawled I wouldn't be able to walk for days. Plus when I put weight on my right wrist I get shocks up to my shoulders. But I feel for you, the whole crawling thing has never been a huge turn on for me, either, not even in stories. I know how I used to crawl when I was younger (and chasing a child, roaring like a lion - great fun). I cannot for the life of me figure out how people can describe crawling as 'graceful' or 'erotic'. *shrugs*

 

[graceanne]

\ How many times have you read a story where one of the characters stubs a toe on the metal bed rail because they were too involved in a kiss to realize there was a bed there. Or slipped in the shower while trying to masterbate their loved one, cause damnit those tub floors can be slick. Or one better, how many times have you read about a guy lifting a girl up in the thrills of pasion only to drop her on her ass because she's too heavy for his scrawny butt!

LOL This thread needs a spew alert!

 

[WriterDom]

I think it is Shadow? not sure, it's been a while since I've read the post but she has tiny little spreader bars that fit between the ankles so the pets must take little bitty baby steps every where they go. I would find that just as amusing as crawling.

The appeal of crawling might have something to do with doggie style sex being the norm for most of our evolutionary voyage.

The things you must endure.

 

[NemoAlia]

The things you must endure.

I know, I know. I bear the burdens of the world on my shoulders.

Wanna know something funny? It hadn't even occurred to me (and you know I love to talk) just to ask the Dom in Question how he wanted to see me crawl. Of course, knowing what I should do and actually being able to do it are two entirely different things, but at least it would be a start.

In the meantime, if someone wanted to mail a tiny little spreader bar to him in order to rescue my wrists, I wouldn't complain a bit!

 

[NemoAlia]

I usually kept my head down and eyes on the floor infront of me....trying to avoid pennies *giggles*

But what if I want Mr. Lincoln's mark on me?

 

[WriterDom]

In the meantime, if someone wanted to mail a tiny little spreader bar to him in order to rescue my wrists, I wouldn't complain a bit!

They are simple to make. You just need a Walmart or a Dom Depot.

 

[Hester]

I think it is Shadow? not sure, it's been a while since I've read the post but she has tiny little spreader bars that fit between the ankles so the pets must take little bitty baby steps every where they go. I would find that just as amusing as crawling.

The appeal of crawling might have something to do with doggie style sex being the norm for most of our evolutionary voyage.

The things you must endure.

pants dropped and around ankles might have the same physical effect with some added humiliation and amusement value.

 

[the captians wench]

They are simple to make. You just need a Walmart or a Dom Depot.

don't you just love toy shopping at the hardware store

 

[the captians wench]

But what if I want Mr. Lincoln's mark on me?

then you go around and try to see how many you can run into and pick up before he realizes what you're doing

 

[graceanne]

then you go around and try to see how many you can run into and pick up before he realizes what you're doing

hehehe

 

[BiBunny]

I agree. Crawling sucks, and there's no graceful way to do it, at least not for me. I have a bad left knee and a bad right shoulder, so when I crawl, I look like a crippled camel with a wobbly ass. Thank God I hardly ever have to do it.

 

[NemoAlia]

I agree....when I crawl, I look like a crippled camel with a wobbly ass.

Ack! You and I must be mirror images of each other when we crawl.

At least with kneeling, you can just "hold the position." And theoretically, there's a position that satisfies most everyone, right? But crawling is just not meant for humans who have outgrown the height at which it is convenient to leave restaurant booths simply by slipping out under them.

There would be an element of weirdness involved, though, if I made a hobbling spreader bar and presented it to Mr. Makes-Me-Crawl with a suggestion that it would be equally as humiliating as crawling without driving me completely out of any sort of sexual mood. Oblique hints are about the best that I can imagine myself giving, toy-advice-wise, without smacking myself for topping from the bottom.

 

[His_pita]

I hate to kneel. It's awkward, uncomfortable, silly, boring, and usually involves domesticated animals coming to investigate an invasion of their altitude.

I love this thread!!

I thank the good Lord I haven't been made to crawl *knock on wood* by my Dom. I have had to kneel and I do hate it. I'm overweight, out of shape and sitting on my feet fucking hurts. I am losing weight and getting into shape, but I feel the comfort of being able to kneel for more then 5 seconds pain free is still a very long ways off. He does now allow me to sit on a pillow. Got to take them compromises where we can get them.

 

[Temptress_lee]

Yea

Yea I would have said just to ask your Dom how he/she likes it done too. In real life things are not always the way they are described in erotic stories. But the whole aspect of being humiliated, and made to crawl is what pleases your Master/Mistress in the first place. Your basically doing it for their viewing pleasure and not your own.

 

[MechaBlade]

Sex is overrated in the first place.

I think this sums it up. Cause I'm a dom, and I like crawling. I like kneeling, I like laying on the ground. I wanna climb trees. I just like using my body in different ways and positions. But even if my sub didn't like these things, I'd expect her to do it because it's submitting to me. I don't see how this can be any worse than a spanking.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

An Oldie but a Goodie...............

I have been smiling reading this Thread as it grows and see a reflective humor often in the posts. I hope you forgive me for posting the following. Alternate was to post it on my Thread and then put a referal link here but that seemed a little 'removed'. For those who have yet to read this before I hope you enjoy it.


@}-}rebecca----

27 POSITIONS AS DEMONSTRATED BY AN OLDER SUBMISSIVE


1. Standing, hands behind neck, feet apart, knees bent so the blood supply is not cut off and the sub faints like a kid in front of me once did in formation in my army days.

2. Kneeling, same as #1, but ask for a pillow because these 44 year old
knees just ain't what they used to be.

3. Kneeling, bottom on calves, milky white thighs spread, graceful hands
palm up on those milky white thighs, (oh yeah, bells jingle while
maneuvering into this position), long hair flows down back, pert (in my
dreams) breasts uh...being perky.

4. On hands and knees, doin' the doggy-style thing...oh yeah, milky white
thighs still parted.

5. Same as #4 except placed over a low piece of furniture, head dangling
over one edge, blood rushing to it...and she has to sneeze.

6. Same as #5 except on back, head still dangling, neck muscles tensed
because when the head just dangles in this position, the nose gets stuffed
up. Milky white thighs still parted.

7. Spread out over his knee, legs parted, awaiting the first strike of palm
to bottom (okay, wouldn't even think to mess with this one *smile*).

8. Standing, hands behind back in the parade rest position (sorry, it's all
that army training *grin*), breasts thrust forward, legs spread
shoulder-width apart, lips parted, eyes moist, knees slightly bent (it's
that fainting thing again), muscles in arms starting to remind that she is
still 44 years old, regardless of what she believes she is.

9. Kneeling, bottom on calves, hands grasping ankles, feeling body listing
slightly to the right, trying to compensate, overdo it, falling on left
side, but! never letting go of ankles. Very attractive once you get past
the laughter.

10. Kneeling then laying prone (well, while kneeling) so that the head is
touching the floor and arms are stretched out before her. Praying that he
doesn't step on her fingers while he walks around and recognizing that if
her tummy were much rounder she'd be lucky if her fingertips found the
carpet.

11. Hands and feet on floor, body arched in a backbend, which is held for a grand total of 8 seconds (Hey! That's long enough for a rodeo rider to
win!). Submissives age 30-40 can be expected to last 12 seconds.

12. Kneeling, bent over at the waist, hands behind the back, legs spread
(more for balance than exposure) and the challenge of not pitching forward flat on her face.

13. Kneeling with body laid backward over the calves and feet, hands laid on stomach, and full knowledge she will never be able to get up without the help of a crane.

14. Kneeling and prone with legs spread very wide so that breasts may touch the floor and recognizing that if gravity takes over any more, she could just slightly bend at the waist and her nipples would feel the carpet.

15. On hands and knees for the purpose of being used as a table and hoping the dominant doesn't decide to take up smoking.

16. On knees, chest, head and arms to the floor, bottom up in the
air...hmmm...another one not to tease about....*pant*pant*grin*

17. Standing, hands behind back, elbows touching (uh, yeah, right....)

18. Same as #17 but in kneeling position.

19. On back, knees bent, legs over head (like in the bicycle exercise
position), arms flat on surface, tears come to eyes while trying to remember the name of that chiropractor a friend told you about.

20. Sitting on the floor, left leg (right, if you're left-handed) up and
behind the back. Great for exposure of the submissive, but likely she'll
never be the same again.

21. Hand-stand, legs apart, hoping the carpet is softer on the way down than it feels to the top of your head and that all that blood will flow slowly
back to the rest of your body...and knowing it won't, so also hoping your
Dom won't panic when you pass out.

22. Standing, hands grasping ankles, legs apart, muscles stretching in
places you didn't know you had muscles because the last time you did this was in 5th grade gym class and, at 11, you were a bit more limber or, if you were in the army, when you fully came to realize the definition of BOHICA
(Bend Over, Here it Comes Again).

23. Standing, facing the nearest wall, hands touching the wall, legs apart,
back curved in whatever the opposite of "arched" is, belly and breasts
hanging, mind wondering when the body started to go and deciding that
thinking about what to make for dinner is a much more pleasant way to pass the time.

24. Lying on one's back, left thigh flat on the floor, leg bent at the knee
with calf/foot to the side, right leg up toward the head and tucked under
the right shoulder, left arm flung over the head, eyes downcast, and smiling (or grimacing through the pain, whichever the case may be...I'd vote on the latter).

25. Squatting, hands behind neck, back straight, hoping no one within
earshot runs any water.

26. Standing on right foot, left leg curved around right, arms in front,
elbows touching, forearms and hands intertwined, wondering if you'll ever be able to untangle.

27. Standing, kneeling, sitting, looking at your partner knowing that
regardless of the fact that you're not as limber and flexible as you may
have once been, it doesn't really matter because it's the submission not the position.

 

[NemoAlia]

In real life things are not always the way they are described in erotic stories.

Well, phooey. (Welcome to lit, by the way!)

His_pita, the pillow thing -- maybe we could negotiate kneepads, like portable pillows, for crawling. What do you think?

And MechaBlade: you sound like a monkey! Ahem, what I mean is... yay, climbing trees! Maybe I should go out and find myself a Dom who finds as much visual satisfaction in my climbing trees as he does in my crawling.

 

[NemoAlia]

I have been smiling reading this Thread as it grows and see a reflective humor often in the posts. I hope you forgive me for posting the following. Alternate was to post it on my Thread and then put a referal link here but that seemed a little 'removed'. For those who have yet to read this before I hope you enjoy it.

I love it! Too funny!

...and appropriate. Some of those sound more like yoga than submission, no? I guess I haven't had much hold-the-position experience

 

[kayte]

I hate to kneel. It's awkward, uncomfortable, silly, boring, and usually involves domesticated animals coming to investigate an invasion of their altitude.

But more than having to kneel, I hate being expected to crawl. It's all the awkwardness and discomfort of kneeling with the added confusion of how to do it in the first place. I mean, seriously. In fiction, crawling is always graceful (even if it's tear-stained). Roquelaire-style crawling involves swaying hips, delicate blushes, and dampening vaginas. But in my own experience, being ordered to crawl is the beginning of an interior monologue that goes like this:

Fuck.
This floor is dusty.
Should I look forward?
Wait, it's left-arm, right-leg... then switch. I think. Or is it the other way around?
Oh, there's that sock I couldn't find.
Ouch, my wrist!
Should I pick up my feet? Brace my toes on the floor like a sprinter about to take off?
Or just drag my legs behind me like a landlocked mermaid?
I can't believe he likes it when I do this.
Who knew the hallway was this long?
When I get to that bed, I'm going to cocoon myself in those covers and never come out. Sex is overrated in the first place.

Anyone have any tips on improving the crawling experience? I keep thinking that if I learned to feel graceful (or even remotely attractive) while doing it, I might enjoy it more.

Of course, if you have no helpful advice but just want to throw an odd "Poor baby" my way, that would be nice too!

Hi NemoAlia ~ I think you started a very good thread, and many of the responses here, sprinkled with humor I believe are saying in some way, what #27 of rebecca's post is. Submission: that is what counts.

As I started reading this thread, I was thinking I need to find where I saved the email I have of the positions for us elderly submissives when I saw she had already shared it.

I am 50, and have a physical challenge, and yet my Sir and I just work through those things. As is said, it is the submission.

 

[Guest]

I hate to kneel. It's awkward, uncomfortable, silly, boring, and usually involves domesticated animals coming to investigate an invasion of their altitude.

But more than having to kneel, I hate being expected to crawl. It's all the awkwardness and discomfort of kneeling with the added confusion of how to do it in the first place. I mean, seriously. In fiction, crawling is always graceful (even if it's tear-stained). Roquelaire-style crawling involves swaying hips, delicate blushes, and dampening vaginas. But in my own experience, being ordered to crawl is the beginning of an interior monologue that goes like this:

Fuck.
This floor is dusty.
Should I look forward?
Wait, it's left-arm, right-leg... then switch. I think. Or is it the other way around?
Oh, there's that sock I couldn't find.
Ouch, my wrist!
Should I pick up my feet? Brace my toes on the floor like a sprinter about to take off?
Or just drag my legs behind me like a landlocked mermaid?
I can't believe he likes it when I do this.
Who knew the hallway was this long?
When I get to that bed, I'm going to cocoon myself in those covers and never come out. Sex is overrated in the first place.

Anyone have any tips on improving the crawling experience? I keep thinking that if I learned to feel graceful (or even remotely attractive) while doing it, I might enjoy it more.

Of course, if you have no helpful advice but just want to throw an odd "Poor baby" my way, that would be nice too!

ROFLMAO!!!
I always suspected as much...
I try to be a practical Dom... You don''t have someone kneel/crawl if they have bad knees... Padding (generally) if they are going to be kneeling for any length of time.
Hmm I suspect that you might find a bit of difference if you realized how your Dom/me thinks you look while kneeling/crawling.
I'll bet if you asked, you might be leasantly surprised..
Improving the crawling experience...Carpet...Put carpet in the hall..