Kerching!

[GuiltyCowboy]

OpenAI to allow erotic content for verified adult users as part of what the company calls a “treat adult users like adults” principle (clearly haven't visited these forums...).

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/14/openai-chatgpt-adult-erotic-content

OpenAI also said it was developing behavior-based age prediction technology that estimates whether a user is over or under 18 based on how they interact with ChatGPT. Last time I used ChatGPT was to ask it to repeat the word 'cat' forever. So I suspect I'll be having to write my own erotica for a while still...

Anyway, stay safe out there folks and, remember, if you're not paying for a service on the internet then you are the product - and if you are paying for it then you're still the product.

 

[crookedletter]

OpenAI also said it was developing behavior-based age prediction technology that estimates whether a user is over or under 18 based on how they interact with ChatGPT.

Well I just can't imagine any scenario at all where this could cause a problem.

...

 

[TheRedChamber]

OpenAI also said it was developing behavior-based age prediction technology that estimates whether a user is over or under 18 based on how they interact with ChatGPT. Last time I used ChatGPT was to ask it to repeat the word 'cat' forever. So I suspect I'll be having to write my own erotica for a while still...

In Trump America, chatbot Turing tests you!

 

[crookedletter]

In a post on X, Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, said that stricter guardrails on conversational AI to address mental health concerns had made its chatbot “less useful/enjoyable to many users who had no mental health problems”.

"Being responsible turned out to be kind of a bummer, so we decided not to do it anymore."

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Age restrictions on porn sites: AH "How dare these preachy moralizing Christians try to force their values on us!"

Age restrictions on AI site: AH "Govern me harder Daddy!"

 

[Jackie.Hikaru]

Age restrictions on porn sites: AH "How dare these preachy moralizing Christians try to force their values on us!"

Age restrictions on AI site: AH "Govern me harder Daddy!"

God forbid anyone who has nuanced opinions.

 

[TheLobster]

God forbid anyone who has nuanced opinions.

Lack of consistency and outright hypocrisy can often be mistaken for nuance.

 

[StillStunned]

Age restrictions on porn sites: AH "How dare these preachy moralizing Christians try to force their values on us!"

Age restrictions on AI site: AH "Govern me harder Daddy!"

I'm pretty sure people's objections have more to do with the ethics of AI than the age of the users.

 

[Jackie.Hikaru]

Lack of consistency and outright hypocrisy can often be mistaken for nuance.

at times, yes.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I'm pretty sure people's objections have more to do with the ethics of AI than the age of the users.

That certainly doesn't seem to be the objection here.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Lack of consistency and outright hypocrisy can often be mistaken for nuance.

Yes, my side is "nuanced", your side is "hypocritical".
My side is "concerned with ethics", your side is "forcing their morality on people".

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

I don't believe this has anything to do with christians or hypocrisy. It's all about American tech trying not to be regulated by the EU and its irritating consumer protection laws.

In this case, OpenAI is trying to suggest that they'll be able to regulate themselves. Europe comprises 450m of the wealthiest people on the planet - it's not a market that big American tech can forsake. If the EU says jump, then the tech companies fucking jump. And they hate it. And of course Trump hates it too. It's one of the genuine brakes on America's effect on the (digital) world.

If every person who accessed OpenAI was hit with an age verification process - like when you visit a porn video site if you're in Europe - then that's going to seriously impede OpenAI's ability to surveil you and make money. Many customers just immediately log off.

Personally, I wouldn't trust a company that pays people in Venezuela and Kenya $6 per week to clean their chatbot of the most rancid material humanity can invent. I wouldn't trust them to be concerned with anyone's welfare or mental health.

 

[PennyThompson]

Human-made erotica writers are going to have to become much more creative, strange, and surprising than their current baseline performance levels!

AI can generate an endless supply of formulaic stroker tropes, tightly calibrated to the reader's every whim and desire, tirelessly willing to make the reader maximally happy. (Trained on Lit's vast smut corpus, most likely)

PSG's stereotypical "just want to have their own fantasies recited back at them," reader is going to dry up and disappear as this kind of AI service gets more popular and mainstreamed.

Cultivate and cherish the readers that want to be surprised or challenged or provoked, they are the ones that will keep reading human work

 

[KittyOfSteele]

OpenAI also said it was developing behavior-based age prediction technology that estimates whether a user is over or under 18 based on how they interact with ChatGPT.

Didn't Youtube did something similar and failed spectacularly?

 

[Erozetta]

Much like AI generated images, there's going to be factions around this that both embrace and vilify it.

Ultimately, it won't matter how talented or artistic a writer is, the readership will trend towards quick generation over waiting days or even weeks for a human writer to churn something out that doesn't fully meet their needs. And I don't mean they will put in the effort to generate these stories. They will let others generate them and they will consume those stories because they can be generated quick enough to flood venues and further dilute the readership for human authors.

It already stands that many people either can't tell something is AI or don't care about using AI imagery, so why would we expect writing to be any different?

Any usage - free or paid - of LLM/AI generation software creates demand, and that is a big part of what gives these companies value.

Free to us still has a cost attached to it, and they bank on us not caring about that cost. And we don't, at least until it affects us directly. Then it sucks.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Much like AI generated images, there's going to be factions around this that both embrace and vilify it.

Ultimately, it won't matter how talented or artistic a writer is, the readership will trend towards quick generation over waiting days or even weeks for a human writer to churn something out that doesn't fully meet their needs. And I don't mean they will put in the effort to generate these stories. They will let others generate them and they will consume those stories because they can be generated quick enough to flood venues and further dilute the readership for human authors.

It already stands that many people either can't tell something is AI or don't care about using AI imagery, so why would we expect writing to be any different?

Any usage - free or paid - of LLM/AI generation software creates demand, and that is a big part of what gives these companies value.

Free to us still has a cost attached to it, and they bank on us not caring about that cost. And we don't, at least until it affects us directly. Then it sucks.

Why should they care? It's a common refrain here in the AH about how people don't write for the readers, don't care about their opinions and on and on. People here frequently show open disdain for the readers.
Why would you expect them to care about the writers? That's a classic abusive relationship.

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

...Ultimately, it won't matter how talented or artistic a writer is, the readership will trend towards quick generation over waiting days or even weeks for a human writer to churn something out that doesn't fully meet their needs. And I don't mean they will put in the effort to generate these stories. They will let others generate them and they will consume those stories because they can be generated quick enough to flood venues and further dilute the readership for human authors.

Yes. Let's delve into that. Look at the faves of most readers--a narrow theme in multiple iterations. Conceptually, you tell ChatGPT 'I like these stories, make another one' and ChatGPT serve forth a blurb of several options that you then pick to enjoy.

Not a big deal financially when you are talking erotica, but what happens when the reader says 'write me another Game of Thrones? Stay tuned to find out.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Yes. Let's delve into that. Look at the faves of most readers--a narrow theme in multiple iterations. Conceptually, you tell ChatGPT 'I like these stories, make another one' and ChatGPT serve forth a blurb of several options that you then pick to enjoy.

Not a big deal financially when you are talking erotica, but what happens when the reader says 'write me another Game of Thrones? Stay tuned to find out.

At least that one will have an ending.

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

write me another Game of Thrones

'Invent a new TV episode of Game of Thrones. Make me the King but give me a deeper voice - and maybe more hair. Put Margot Robbie in it too. And put a comfy cushion on the throne.'

I suspect many people will pay for that possibility.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Didn't Youtube did something similar and failed spectacularly?

If there's one thing to be learned from the history of age verification schemes, it's that nobody learns from the history of age verification schemes.

Australia is in the process of introducing age verification requirements for "social media" (defining that is its own can of worms; apparently GitHub is socmed but 4chan isn't?) and before Discord had even completed the rollout of their verification scheme, they'd already been hacked and had identity documents stolen from users who'd provided them to prove their ages.

 

[NoTalentHack]

OpenAI to allow erotic content for verified adult users as part of what the company calls a “treat adult users like adults” principle (clearly haven't visited these forums...).

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/14/openai-chatgpt-adult-erotic-content

OpenAI also said it was developing behavior-based age prediction technology that estimates whether a user is over or under 18 based on how they interact with ChatGPT. Last time I used ChatGPT was to ask it to repeat the word 'cat' forever. So I suspect I'll be having to write my own erotica for a while still...

Anyway, stay safe out there folks and, remember, if you're not paying for a service on the internet then you are the product - and if you are paying for it then you're still the product.

Ah, I see they’ve changed their business model to blackmail.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

If there's one thing to be learned from the history of age verification schemes, it's that nobody learns from the history of age verification schemes.

Australia is in the process of introducing age verification requirements for "social media" (defining that is its own can of worms; apparently GitHub is socmed but 4chan isn't?) and before Discord had even completed the rollout of their verification scheme, they'd already been hacked and had identity documents stolen from users who'd provided them to prove their ages.

Yeah, it's not surprising. The Online Surveillance Act from the UK did something similar to Wikipedia with those weird categories that are based on the number of visits?

As for Discord, the hacker is currently threatening to leak all the information or sell it on the Dark Web. It should be noted that also includes the identity of actual minors, and they don't care at all about it.