Just need an eency beency bit of advice.....

[Jade]

Recently, my friend and I were discussing random testing, (eg: Iq tests and all that)...
Well, we had both taken IQ tests in HS and well.... (eep) he told me his score!!

Now he wants to know mine and well, I mean this in the least conceited way possible but.. mine was higher than his, which I know I shouldn't worry about .. I know it is just plain silly, I mean who really cares about this good for nothing thing, NOT me!

However, he is really "proud" of his score! He was bragging and stuff... and he wants to know mine and says he promises not to make fun of me just b/c mine is lower than his?

Ugh,... I just cannot seem to word it correctly...
help? I just need a good "weasling out tacitc."

 

[Skibum]

As long as he's being such a dork you should go ahead and knock him back a step or two with your higher score. His assuming that he scored higher than you, then being condescending by telling you he won't rub it in (which is in itself a way to rub it in!) should earn him a little humiliation. Go ahead, make his day!

 

[Aranian]

So tell him?

If he's a decent guy he should be proud of your score rather than hurt that he can't assert his superiority.

Don't put much stock into those type of tests, they test just that, how adept you are at taking tests. I have the same misgivings about the SATs, ACTs, and MATs. They score on a rigidly defined set of skills. If you strengths lie elsewhere you're SOL.

 

[Dreamer1]

Jade, I agree with the others here. You need not weasle out, just tell him the truth. I know you and you will be nice about it, so he won't be crushed! If he is a big boy, he will understand and be happy he has such a smart friend!

 

[Jade]

So tell him?

If he's a decent guy he should be proud of your score rather than hurt that he can't assert his superiority.

Don't put much stock into those type of tests, they test just that, how adept you are at taking tests. I have the same misgivings about the SATs, ACTs, and MATs. They score on a rigidly defined set of skills. If you strengths lie elsewhere you're SOL.

Aranian,

I never put my faith in those tests (sorry if I implied that!)... HE does. I am educated about the misgivings of such tests and I agree with you. As I stated in a thread a few months ago... there are over 100 mental processes carried out by the mind and the IQ test only measures seven! I couldn't agree more with you. That is why I was sure to mention that I meant it in a "non-conceited" way... b/c I could give a crap what my score is and realize it bears nothing (good or bad) as far as representing my intelligence level.

Well, you all seem to think I should just tell him... (sigh)... I will think on it then....

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Tell him that it's higher than his and you'd rather not go into it furthe. If he presses you, then he's being a putz and deserves a lie, so say something outrageous like 190. He WILL shut up after that.

 

[Bonnie Wee Lassie]

Tell him the truth you should be proud of your test score.

 

[Weird Harold]

Ugh,... I just cannot seem to word it correctly...
help? I just need a good "weasling out tacitc."

It sounds like his ego needs a swift kick. You've got two choices.

1: tell him they wouldn't show you your score because they think you'll get a swelled head. (Actually happened to me the first time I took an IQ test.)

2: Don't tell him, just fax him a copy of your score.

Note, I suggest faxing the score rather than telling him, because he's not going to believe it's higher than his if you just tell him. Especially as you've waffled about revealing your score. He sounds like the type who would rather believe you're lying than that your score is higher.

 

[Jade]

Ugh,... I just cannot seem to word it correctly...
help? I just need a good "weasling out tacitc."

It sounds like his ego needs a swift kick. You've got two choices.

1: tell him they wouldn't show you your score because they think you'll get a swelled head. (Actually happened to me the first time I took an IQ test.)

2: Don't tell him, just fax him a copy of your score.

Note, I suggest faxing the score rather than telling him, because he's not going to believe it's higher than his if you just tell him. Especially as you've waffled about revealing your score. He sounds like the type who would rather believe you're lying than that your score is higher.

WH: I think you are right on the money about this guy... you have no idea how insightful you are.

And what is this about you getting a swelled head?






B: Thanks
DCL: LMAO

 

[Thor's Hammer]

tell him that you are a Mensa society member..and that members never reveal their actual score. If his IQ is high his first question will NOT be, "What is the Mensa society?"



It sounds like he is afflicted with an overdeveloped sense of self importance. "Youth is wasted on the young." My assumption is that he is young...mature people usually get over the ME, ME, ME thing. Its like old money, if you have it you don't flaunt it.

 

[Weird Harold]

[BAnd what is this about you getting a swelled head?
[/B]

I took my first IQ test in the fourth grade circa 1960. My parents were called in to see the principal to discuss my scores and told that if I were to be told my scores it might give me a swelled head because it was higher than others. (there were two other parents called in to discuss their kids scores.)

Needless to say, the three of us were singled out and teased by the others and got swelled heads anyway.

 

[Jade]

Thor:
Well, he isn't THAT bad... he just thinks kind of highly of himself haha

WH: I believe what my mom used to tell me about stuff like that... "They were just JEALOUS!"

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

We took IQ tests in high school, but my mother would never tell us our scores until many years later -- didn't want us kids "competing" with each other or feeling bad about whose IQ was higher. Smart of her, because I beat the rest of the kids and I was already obnoxious enough.

I took the MENSA tests in my early 20s, joined the organization, and quit several years later when I realized how boring the parties were. IQ is definitely not a measure of cool.

 

[Merelan]

I agree, boring. So much so it makes me wonder about my theory on the higher the IQ, the higher the sex drive. But not enough to change my mind.
No, I am not saying I was ever a member, but I have known several and they are Boring, yes that's a capital B.
Though maybe just the "genius'" that join and belong for any length of time are like that. Maybe the real genius' have better things to do, like get laid more then once a year.

 

[Skitten]

Jade;
I to don't put much into theese tests. He is trying to get a rise out of you. Don't give him the satisfaction, I wouldn't tell him keep him wondering. Or you could show him up he is just being a person whom worries about those thing forget it it ain't important.

 

[Jade]

SKITTEN: Yea, good point. I think you are right... perhaps I should just ignore it completely... he hasn't brought it up.. so perhaps he has already! LMAO And, here I am tryign to figure out how to respond.. how sad is that?
(BTW: When are you due again? )


MERELAN: Speaking of (LOL!), have you seen the movie: "Me, Myself, and Irene?" The man that the guy's wife runs off with is a member of mensa (the wife is president of the local chapter)...
Anyhow, this guy .. I am not sure if he could join or not.. how does one get IN to such an organization anyhow? A test right?

DCL: You beat "the rest of the kids" (your siblings or your classmates.. who consitutes "the rest?"... not that I would think anything less of you either way.. just curious, as usual.)

OH, and of course IQ is not a measure of cool!
No way!




I am so glad you all took me seriously.. I was afraid of getting a bad rep from this thread... (ahh you guys are just great!)

 

[Dreamer1]

Jade honey, you are great too! Now where did I leave that damn candle? Hint, for the game of spin the bottle.

[Edited by Dreamer1 on 08-14-2000 at 10:21 PM]

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

DCL: You beat "the rest of the kids" (your siblings or your classmates.. who consitutes "the rest?"

My brothers and sisters, though knowing the idiots in my high school, probably most of them, too.

 

[RonG]

My only encounter with a Mensa member: Once upon a time I took the contestant search test for JEOPARDY! in a large group, about 200 people. After it was over, the tests were gathered up and they played an old show on videotape to entertain the audience while they graded the papers. The guy next to me told me that he had done really well and that he was sure he passed, "Seeing as he was a member of MENSA." Well, the tape plays and everyone is shouting out answers to the questions (or is it questions to answers?) and I realize that he is almost always wrong. I understood what MENSA was about at that time, "Convincing yourself you know everything, even when you don't." Glad to say, I passed the test (you have to get at least 35 out of 50 right on fairly hard stuff) and this guy was not one of the 4 people who passed.

Unfortunately, I did not get lucky enough to be selected to be on the show.

The first question on the test: Gregor Samsa is the protagonist of what novel? You get a clipboard and a piece of paper and 8 seconds for each question when you take the test.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Ooh, ooh, ooh, I know!

Kafka's "metamorphosis", right?

 

[Jade]

Re: Ooh, ooh, ooh, I know!

Kafka's "metamorphosis", right?

WRONG... (You must answer in the form of a question, Sillyhead!)



DCL: You had a good Mommy... I agree with what she did.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Re: Re: Ooh, ooh, ooh, I know!

WRONG... (You must answer in the form of a question, Sillyhead!)[/i]

Damn this jeopardy stuff. I didn't wanna be on the show anyway.

 

[RonG]

Give the doc a cigar, Metamorphosis it is. I remember the collective "OHMYGOD"s from the test group as the first question killed a lot of people's confidence. I don't remember too many other questions but there was one more literature question: The Bald Soprano is an anti-play by what dramatist?

They had a handful of pop culture questions (Madonna was actually an answer for one of them) and bunches of geography, history, etc. For the survivors, you have to play a mock version of the game to see if you can speak. Then, you're in their potential candidate lottery for one year before being purged. Alas, I was purged as if I had washed my boxer shorts in Stalin's drinking water. I have not taken the test again but I recommend it for fun to anyone who has the opportunity.

Answer, BTW, for the above to save a post (I am delaying guru status as long as possible) is Ionesco. Also, when you take the test, the "answer in the form of a question" stuff is chucked, they just want a quick answer.

 

[Samuari]

Hey Kids,
They gave a battery of tests to my kids in the third grade, and then an IQ test to those in the 95th percentile. Those that scored 130 and above were selected for a special program for gifted/tallented kids. As it paralled the remedial work for the mentally retarded, my kids were hazed.

My oldest thought that there was something worng with her, that she had to go to this special program, and she just wanted to be 'normal'. I think that she has underachieved ever since. We learned from her experence, though; and the other three enjoyed their experences in the program.

The real chalenge was raising four grils that are all smarter than I am, and know it.

I think that you just have to tell him your scores and if that is a problem, than deal with that on its own merits.

 

[Mensa]

Smile when you say that!

This is the first time I've been to this board. There's a lot more going on around here than I ever suspected. What's the first thing I read? People bandying about with my user-name.LOL

WH, the same thing happened to me when I was first administered the IQ test. Nobody would tell me my score. They made me take it over....twice! My mother was called to the school and told my score but I never found it out til years later.

My elder brother had taken it before me and they reccomended he be advanced one grade. It didn't work out so well. He could handle the material alright but he was now the youngest in his class. He'd started the year with his peers but now was with strangers and couldn't easily adjust.

When my turn came, they reccomended advancement of two grades. My mother refused, no doubt remembering my brother. I don't know if that was good or bad because I still had trouble myself. They would take three weeks to cover things that I felt could be done in three days. This left me bored and frustrated at how slow they were.

In a mixed class they have to proceed at a pace designed for the median intelligence of the class. For the top students this is too slow and for the bottom students this is too fast. But if you were separated into "special" classes, you felt like you were different. Nothing worse for a child!

Years later I took the Mensa test and passed but I never joined even though the opportunity was offered. It seemed to me that the ones most eager were the ones who liked to flaunt their membership. Not for me, thank you very much. I'm content to have my IQ level remain a personal matter,I'm comfortable with it.

DCL, your mother was wise not to tell you. You probably suspected enough on your own. I know I did, I could often do in a breeze what others laboured at mightily. But something always told me , in the back of my young mind, not to show off or to ever show others up. I'm glad to say I listened to that little voice.

Jade, you're wise enough to know that you should assess the kind of man he is and answer accordingly. If he can take it, tell the truth. If not, then be diplomatic and say that your's is in the same ballpark as his without going into specifics.