Just my opinion.

Annabelllee2003

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It’s arrogance.

Some just know that the war is illegal, unfounded, unwarranted, and a ridiculous show of impotent force that will decimate the world. That George W. Bush is a pansy, pampered, rich good ole boy that got to be president by screwing over the citizens of the United States.

What exactly do you know?

Tell me.
Are you privy to the intelligence files? Do you have a line-in at the Pentagon? Rub elbows with a big-mouthed CIA operative? Have a glass to the wall of the oval office? Have a pillow installed under Tony Blair’s bed?

Why would you be so arrogant to assume you know half of what is going on?

Of course this same arrogance would lead me to assume that if you were privy to the information, you’d be the type to sell your country out just to publish it, not giving a damn the disadvantage of showing our hand.

Cry for the release of the Gulf War classified documents. You just know something is in there to bash the stuffing out of the current administration or of George Sr.’s. You wouldn’t give a damn if it hurts the effort now would you? Not as long as you could cut and paste one sentence to defend a tenuous position.

I’ve seen so many whine and moan about President Bush being a puppet I could scream. It smacks of envy to me. How envious people are that they couldn’t get into Ivy League schools. How economically disadvantaged they are.

Of course we should foot the bill for all of you to attend prestigious schools. We should pay for your whole bloody life. Then toss in free medical care. And corporate America should pay for it, those bloodsucking pigs that steal from you.

We should open our boarders wide and let every envious bloodsucking American-hating idiot in just to prove how liberal and compassionate we are. We should embrace those that hate us. I know – we can start our own training camps. Invite the really rabid guys. Just to show them our compassion to their cause.

We should rewrite all the history books. (Oops – we DONE THAT already.) Teach our children how wrong it is to hate those that hate them. We should let them know that we Americans were the ones responsible for bringing down the twin towers and those 3000+ deaths. We should use that red carpet the Oscar dudes are eschewing to welcome them with open arms. Then they wouldn’t have to sneak in. How about sending them on a tour of your neighborhood – or the nearest nuclear power plant? Water reservoir? Sure.

We should embrace every politically correct idea just because it shows how diverse we are. How tolerant. How incredibly intelligent and gracious.


Just a few more words.

In the USA there is a growing backlash. The ranks of protesters that are the closet socialists clad in righteous rags of diversity and tolerance are dwindling. And if you aren’t among those ranks, you sincerely feel that this war is immoral and wrong well God bless you. You are in the right country to make your protest. Our grandfathers and grandmothers died to give you that right.

Unfortunately you may be colored with the same brush as those that are the really rabid ones.

The scary ones. The ones that spout drivel and don’t vote. The ones that make a career out of jumping on bandwagons because their own lives are unfulfilling and they have no potential. It’s easy to be of the entitlement ranks. We’ve spawned them since the 1960’s. John Walker Lindh is classic evidence of that.
 
yawn.

I vote in all my local, state, and national elections. From overseas. I can't tell you how pleased I was to see the amount of people that turned out in US cities for protests.
 
Annabelllee2003 said:
We should embrace every politically correct idea just because it shows how diverse we are. How tolerant. How incredibly intelligent and gracious.

I agree with alot of your points. The one I've quoted above is one that irritates me. People are so afraid of being labled racist, bigot, or whatever else...everything these days bows to diversity and political correctness. Certain groups raise a stink anytime something historical doesn't represent diversity. We have to throw historical correctness out the window for fear of offending. Examples can be found with the firefighter memorial statue, the Iwo Jima statue and at the Smithsonian.
 
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Gunner Dailey said:
I agree with alot of your points. The one I've quoted above is one that irritates me. People are so afraid of being labled racist, bigot, or whatever else...everything these days bows to diversity and political correctness. Certain groups raise a stink anytime something historical doesn't represent diversity. We have to throw historical correctness out the window for fear of offending. Examples can be found with the firefighter memorial statue, the Iwo Jima statue and at the Smithsonian.

It irritates the hell out of me too Gunner. Makes my skin crawl.
 
peachykeen said:
yawn.

I vote in all my local, state, and national elections. From overseas. I can't tell you how pleased I was to see the amount of people that turned out in US cities for protests.

I am so glad you vote.
:rose:
 
This war will buy the US no peace as the Israeli war with the Palestinians has bought them no peace.

It's just adding to a never-ending cycle.
 
Sitting around being oblivious to the realities of the world and the threats that exist isn't going to gain "world peace" either.
 
Gunner Dailey said:
Sitting around being oblivious to the realities of the world and the threats that exist isn't going to gain "world peace" either.
Did I mention sitting around? NO.
But let me ask you this ... do attacks on your country make you want to strike back more or less?

I've said it once and I'll say it again:
The terrorists feel this is a war of faith. Faith is only strenthened by the resolve of war.
 
Blindinthedark said:
Did I mention sitting around? NO.
But let me ask you this ... do attacks on your country make you want to strike back more or less?

I've said it once and I'll say it again:
The terrorists feel this is a war of faith. Faith is only strenthened by the resolve of war.


Sorry Blind...I'm not going to argue or debate politics today. There are US and UK soldiers dead, missing and/or captured. I just can't bring myself to get into it today. I still support this action without question.
 
Gunner Dailey said:
Sorry Blind...I'm not going to argue or debate politics today. There are US and UK soldiers dead, missing and/or captured. I just can't bring myself to get into it today. I still support this action without question.
This argument is growing old for all of us.
I understand your point of view. And no one wants to see people die.
 
Blindinthedark said:
This war will buy the US no peace as the Israeli war with the Palestinians has bought them no peace.

It's just adding to a never-ending cycle.

Precognition
How I wish I too owned that talent.

So the decade plus we waited for a diplomatic solution with UN support should have stretched on forever?

It’s easy to decry war. It’s a hard decision to make, to go to war.

I saw a post earlier how the US Military didn’t sign up to go to Iraq. You bet your bottom dollar they did. I can't find the thread so I will post it here.

When they took the oath they certainly signed up to go where their president (Commander in Chief) sends them.

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I,_________,do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
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http://www.newamericancentury.org...and I am not a US citizen. I fear for those of my friends who are. After so many months of disinformation from the current Washington Junta I am trying to see through their smokescreen. If this is taken to be anti- American then you should read the URL thoroughly - find out what YOUR politicians are thinking and why they are doing so. If it was just a case of the US going to hell on its' own then I could live with that. It isn't. Your politicians have stated that they are prepared to wage war to get what they want. This melagomania must be stopped.
 
Annabelllee2003 said:
Precognition
How I wish I too owned that talent.

So the decade plus we waited for a diplomatic solution with UN support should have stretched on forever?

It’s easy to decry war. It’s a hard decision to make, to go to war.

I saw a post earlier how the US Military didn’t sign up to go to Iraq. You bet your bottom dollar they did. I can't find the thread so I will post it here.

When they took the oath they certainly signed up to go where their president (Commander in Chief) sends them.

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I,_________,do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
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So, wouldn't this be null and void when your armies are used on false pretexts?
 
Annabelllee2003 said:
Precognition
How I wish I too owned that talent.

So the decade plus we waited for a diplomatic solution with UN support should have stretched on forever?

It’s easy to decry war. It’s a hard decision to make, to go to war.
No precognition is needed. Only 60 odd years of history to base this on.

Force against this enemy will only bring more retribution.
 
Somme said:
http://www.newamericancentury.org...and I am not a US citizen. I fear for those of my friends who are. After so many months of disinformation from the current Washington Junta I am trying to see through their smokescreen. If this is taken to be anti- American then you should read the URL thoroughly - find out what YOUR politicians are thinking and why they are doing so. If it was just a case of the US going to hell on its' own then I could live with that. It isn't. Your politicians have stated that they are prepared to wage war to get what they want. This melagomania must be stopped.

What exactly do you know?

Tell me.
Are you privy to the intelligence files? Do you have a line-in at the Pentagon? Rub elbows with a big-mouthed CIA operative? Have a glass to the wall of the oval office? Have a pillow installed under Tony Blair’s bed?

Disinformation is on both sides of the fence. Misinformation that is easily cut and pasted and twisted to reflect whatever opine one wants to spout.

One URL is wonderful to use as an example. Especially when it embraces your opinion. Have you looked the other way yet?

I read and read as much as I can and still come to the same conclusion.

WE aren't PRIVY to the intelligence.

WE elect officals to represent us.

WE fund the military, the intelligence communities, and the minds that can make rational decisions.

WE can protest. WE can support or not the decisions made.

I fear for every soldier, airman, marine and sailor that goes in harms way. But I am damn glad they are there and are willing to say NOT ON MY WATCH.
 
Annabelllee2003 said:
What exactly do you know?

Tell me.
Are you privy to the intelligence files? Do you have a line-in at the Pentagon? Rub elbows with a big-mouthed CIA operative? Have a glass to the wall of the oval office? Have a pillow installed under Tony Blair’s bed?

Disinformation is on both sides of the fence. Misinformation that is easily cut and pasted and twisted to reflect whatever opine one wants to spout.

One URL is wonderful to use as an example. Especially when it embraces your opinion. Have you looked the other way yet?

I read and read as much as I can and still come to the same conclusion.

WE aren't PRIVY to the intelligence.

WE elect officals to represent us.

WE fund the military, the intelligence communities, and the minds that can make rational decisions.

WE can protest. WE can support or not the decisions made.

I fear for every soldier, airman, marine and sailor that goes in harms way. But I am damn glad they are there and are willing to say NOT ON MY WATCH.
You're tearing down your own argument here.
You're saying that no one knows and in that case caution is always the best option.

I can say I have looked both ways and from many angles. Every scenerio I play from this war is negative.

Have you looked at this from all sides or are you basing your decision on the american propoganda machine?

Look I'm not trying to tell you what to think. You're free to make your choice. But you should also look at the problem from as many view points as possible and not from an amero-centric one.
 
Blindinthedark said:
You're tearing down your own argument here.
You're saying that no one knows and in that case caution is always the best option.

I can say I have looked both ways and from many angles. Every scenerio I play from this war is negative.

Have you looked at this from all sides or are you basing your decision on the american propoganda machine?

Look I'm not trying to tell you what to think. You're free to make your choice. But you should also look at the problem from as many view points as possible and not from an amero-centric one.

I don't think I tear down my argument Blind, I am merely pointing out that we will not know the intricacies until we are able to be arm-chair critics after the events unfold. I have lived in too many countries for too many years to blindly accept propaganda.

I also look at the funding of the URL's, Opinions, news agencies et el, ,that I read. That says quite a bit, too.

My point is that I believe that given all the information the conclusion will be more apparent.

To disseminate secrets now is pure craziness and would cost far more lives.

I am happy to hear your opinion and only hope that you too base it on more than propaganda.
 
Annabelllee2003 said:

That George W. Bush is a pansy, pampered, rich good ole boy that got to be president by screwing over the citizens of the United States.

What exactly do you know?

I don't know about the pansy part, but Dubya really is a pampered rich good ole boy that got to be president by screwing over the citizens of the United States.
 
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Thrillhouse said:
I don't know about the pansy part, but Dubya really is a pampered rich good ole boy that got to be president by screwing over the citizens of the United States.
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It smacks of envy to me. How envious people are that they couldn’t get into Ivy League schools. How economically disadvantaged they are.

Of course we should foot the bill for all of you to attend prestigious schools. We should pay for your whole bloody life. Then toss in free medical care. And corporate America should pay for it, those bloodsucking pigs that steal from you.
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And Bill Clinton was poor and pulled himself up by the bootstraps. And Hillary didn't state hop to find one that would support her.

OH my god.
I've just sunk to the level.
Pinch me quick.
 
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Thrillhouse said:
I don't know about the pansy part, but Dubya really is a pampered rich good ole boy that got to be president by screwing over the citizens of the United States.
Exactly like the inbred Kennedys............
 
The beautiful thing about our country, and the thing that we are most hated for, is that we have the RIGHT to question our elected officials. In fact, it is not only CAN we, but we SHOULD. A democracy builds a foundation on its citizens, and our feelings and opinions do matter. If we were not in the practice of questioning our government, then what power do we have over our own lives? We cannot always blindly accept what we are told is best for us.

I am not jealous of the President. I would never want to be in his position. I do, however, have the right to feel skeptical about his motives. I don't claim to know anything, be privy to any information that you aren't, but sometimes a gut feeling is all it takes. I will support our men overseas, and I will support our government now that this has started. There is no going back now. HOWEVER, to call me arrogant for exercising my freedom to question my governing body is to ask me to give up liberties that my government has promised me.

As for teaching our children not to hate...No, we shouldn't teach our children it's okay to hate just because we're hated. That's teaching them to sink to a level that we despise. I'm not saying we should ask terrorists into our country, or ask our children to embrace them, BUT I think it is VERY important to teach our children that a person of a certain culture is to be judged on his/her own merit, not by the standards set by his/her government. It is important for them to know that calling someone a "fucking camel jockey asshole" is wrong. You can be staunchly against something and not resort to name calling...

Like calling the President names.

I don't condone either.
 
Islamic Facism is a reality. If you do not believe it now, you will in 20 years.
 
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