Jungle love?

[Tugari]

Ok - I tried this question on the general forum, but that was a mistake because I thought I would actually get an honest response without to much comedy - so - within the context of a story (erotic fantasy-fiction) of course, I wanted people (women, especially, considering it's a women character) to answer if they could ever, have ever had a sexual attraction toward male gorillas (silverbacks) fictionally or otherwise. (Now mind you - I said, sexual attraction - Not actual sexual relationship - but if you want to add that - I guess you can.) This is not a stereotypical B-movie gorilla setting - (Gorillas do not rape, or abduct women to force sex upon them . . . in fact, its the females that do the seducing, by the way)

 

[Black Tulip]

Can't say I would.
But if you consider writing something along those lines, keep in mind that sex with animals is not accepted on this site.

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[oggbashan]

Can't say I would.
But if you consider writing something along those lines, keep in mind that sex with animals is not accepted on this site.

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Except with mythical, non-existent animals.

Sex with King Kong might be acceptable if unlikely.

Dragons and centaurs are possible.

Og

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I read a book, oh, many many years ago. It was called survivor I think. the female protag was the only survivior when a survey ship crashed on an alien world. the alien race was rather gorilla/bigfootish, but with fancifully colored fur. I do reemember a fairly arousing (at least for a 13 year old) scene in it.

In basic, the ability to paint any reaction from your protag and have a reader accept it, is a measure of your skill and not of preset conceptual ideas. the incest cat is filled with scenarios rangeing from highly unlikely to just plain out there, but the readership is willing to suspend disbelief for the sake of their enjoyment and some writers are ale to portray reactions that you would normally say, imposible to, credibly.

In short, while I am not about to move to the kenyan mountains and take up with Bobo, a good author might well be able to produce a character whom i could believe was. I don't know how erotic even a great writer could make it, but considering some of the sci-fi unions i have read and enjoyed, I wouldn't rule it out as impossible, just highly unlikely.

AS other's have noted, Lit dosen't accept stories of this nature, no matter how well done.

 

[eric shawn listo]

Check out Mrs. Caliban. Rachel Ingals, I think.

Or the one about the ape and the English lady by Peter Hoeg. Can't remember the title.

 

[impressive]

In basic, the ability to paint any reaction from your protag and have a reader accept it, is a measure of your skill and not of preset conceptual ideas.

Word.

 

[Tugari]

Can't say I would.
But if you consider writing something along those lines, keep in mind that sex with animals is not accepted on this site.

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Yes - but I see quite a few on here that have slipped through - little Red Riding Hood - for instance. It's a wolf, isn't it. It's an animal, isn't it? it might be intelligent enough to talk - but so are gorillas. Whats the difference between attraction to a gorilla and attraction to an alien or a mythical being - its all fantasy anyway?

 

[oggbashan]

Yes - but I see quite a few on here that have slipped through - little Red Riding Hood - for instance. It's a wolf, isn't it. It's an animal, isn't it? it might be intelligent enough to talk - but so are gorillas. Whats the difference between attraction to a gorilla and attraction to an alien or a mythical being - its all fantasy anyway?

The difference is the rules of Literotica. Sex with fantasy animals is allowed. Sex with realistic animals is not. Either we stick to Lit's rules or we put the story elsewhere. It is a simple choice.

Og (who has written about sex between animals)

 

[Tugari]

Except with mythical, non-existent animals.

Sex with King Kong might be acceptable if unlikely.

Dragons and centaurs are possible.

Og

So, If I'm a native american and want to right about a native american ledgend of a woman and a bear (which would be within the contecxt of that tribe's culture) that would not be acceptable. or africans and Indians, who have many fables and ledgends of this nature - they too would not be able to express their creativeness with this subject matter? Hmmm.

 

[alice_underneath]

I wanted people (women, especially, considering it's a women character) to answer if they could ever, have ever had a sexual attraction toward male gorillas (silverbacks) fictionally or otherwise. (Now mind you - I said, sexual attraction - Not actual sexual relationship - but if you want to add that - I guess you can.)

In the Ape House at the zoo near my home, the gorillas are separated from the humans solely by a thick glass wall. There is an enormous male gorilla who sits right up against the glass, staring into the eyes of visitors (who are standing, literally, inches away).

My children are currently teenagers, and have long since stopped begging to visit the zoo. So it's been a while. However, I can honestly say that every time I have visited the gorillas, I have been sexually aroused.

No, I do not want to have sex with gorillas. Not even in the fantasies in my head.

However, there is something about the male gorilla at my zoo that I find unbelievably erotic. His eyes are practically human, and they stare - without blinking - straight back at you. There is power and defiance in his gaze.... but just a tiny hint of sadness, making you wonder what's going on inside his head.

His shoulders are broad and his arms are hairy and he exudes an aura of strength and power, barely held in check. He is just an unbelievably masculine creature. I don't know how else to explain it.

He makes me want to have sex - not with him, but with a masculine guy in a wild & passionate way, unrestrained by the strictures of civilized society.

In a way, this reminds me of a scene in the 1984 film, Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes. Andie McDowell is sitting on a bed, and the Tarzan character is jumping around her in a very ape-like way - hunched over, grunting, etc. Andie McDowell was very aroused by this behavior. And so was I....

I hope that answers your question. Thanks for asking it! I haven't thought about my friend at the zoo in a long, long time.

Alice

 

[Tugari]

In the Ape House at the zoo near my home, the gorillas are separated from the humans solely by a thick glass wall. There is an enormous male gorilla who sits right up against the glass, staring into the eyes of visitors (who are standing, literally, inches away).

My children are currently teenagers, and have long since stopped begging to visit the zoo. So it's been a while. However, I can honestly say that every time I have visited the gorillas, I have been sexually aroused.

No, I do not want to have sex with gorillas. Not even in the fantasies in my head.

However, there is something about the male gorilla at my zoo that I find unbelievably erotic. His eyes are practically human, and they stare - without blinking - straight back at you. There is power and defiance in his gaze.... but just a tiny hint of sadness, making you wonder what's going on inside his head.

His shoulders are broad and his arms are hairy and he exudes an aura of strength and power, barely held in check. He is just an unbelievably masculine creature. I don't know how else to explain it.

He makes me want to have sex - not with him, but with a masculine guy in a wild & passionate way, unrestrained by the strictures of civilized society.

In a way, this reminds me of a scene in the 1984 film, Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes. Andie McDowell is sitting on a bed, and the Tarzan character is jumping around her in a very ape-like way - hunched over, grunting, etc. Andie McDowell was very aroused by this behavior. And so was I....

I hope that answers your question. Thanks for asking it! I haven't thought about my friend at the zoo in a long, long time.

Alice

Thank you Alice. Wow - someone gets it. But - as a female, I too can get arroused by the male gorilla - accepting him as the appitomy of the masculine design - however, I can fantasize about him sexually - but thats just it - FANTASY. And what I'm talking about is not the Zoo gorilla in my question - What I'm talking about is a future adapted gorilla - a tribal - cultured gorilla (primitive) but no more so than the most primitive present day humans. With a shared DNA of 99.6% and an average IQ of 96 - where do we, as a species draw the line of what is beastial about gorillas. They do not rape, or murder or abandon their young. There has never been a case of a gorilla killing anyone - ever. Perhaps - in some philosophical way - they are more human than human.

 

[oggbashan]

So, If I'm a native american and want to right about a native american ledgend of a woman and a bear (which would be within the contecxt of that tribe's culture) that would not be acceptable. or africans and Indians, who have many fables and ledgends of this nature - they too would not be able to express their creativeness with this subject matter? Hmmm.

Not on Literotica.

As I said before, such stories can be posted elsewhere.

If the story is mythological - such as Zeus seducing Leda while pretending to be a swan - or the bear is actually a bear-god - then perhaps it might be acceptable. However if the story goes into explicit sexual detail of intercourse between a woman and an animal then it wouldn't be appropriate.

The rules are there to protect this site against those who want to close it down. Ultimately Manu and Laurel own this site. What they say is, or is not, permissible is a final decision.

Og

 

[Tugari]

The difference is the rules of Literotica. Sex with fantasy animals is allowed. Sex with realistic animals is not. Either we stick to Lit's rules or we put the story elsewhere. It is a simple choice.

Og (who has written about sex between animals)

So if it were a green gorilla or a blue gorilla - it would be acceptable? They don't exist.

 

[oggbashan]

So if it were a green gorilla or a blue gorilla - it would be acceptable? They don't exist.

It probably wouldn't be accepted. An alien who looks like a gorilla? Maybe. But see my last post above.

Og

 

[Tugari]

Not on Literotica.

As I said before, such stories can be posted elsewhere.

If the story is mythological - such as Zeus seducing Leda while pretending to be a swan - or the bear is actually a bear-god - then perhaps it might be acceptable. However if the story goes into explicit sexual detail of intercourse between a woman and an animal then it wouldn't be appropriate.

The rules are there to protect this site against those who want to close it down. Ultimately Manu and Laurel own this site. What they say is, or is not, permissible is a final decision.

Og

I'm not disagreeing with you - by the way - I'm just stating my feelings on it, Og. I'd like to read some of your stories. I'm not into "animals" (As a person who actually works with real gorillas, I don't, and never considered a gorilla anymore animal than a human being - so I draw the line there.) But I still would like to read your lit.

 

[Tugari]

It probably wouldn't be accepted. An alien who looks like a gorilla? Maybe. But see my last post above.

Og

How about a Magical gorilla - You know - like a Shaman. A mortal that has been transformed into a "more sentient" gorilla. or, how about a cross between a gorilla and a man - a hybrid? I've got stories of those - and I also have stories of Gorilla-man-dragon creatures . . . what about those?

 

[BlackSnake]

Trying to force an issue for animal sex is fruitless. Think planet of the apes and you'll be closer. Otherwise, thing of another story to write for Lit

 

[Tugari]

?where?

Hey, Og, my luv, Where else can I post such stories if not here. Could you give me any sites that you may know of? Thanks - Would appreciate it.

 

[Tugari]

Trying to force an issue for animal sex is fruitless. Think planet of the apes and you'll be closer. Otherwise, thing of another story to write for Lit

Thats what I am saying. planet of the Apes, though - were not mythical creatures. They were evolved apes. (poor ones) but still.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

So, If I'm a native american and want to right about a native american ledgend of a woman and a bear (which would be within the contecxt of that tribe's culture) that would not be acceptable. or africans and Indians, who have many fables and ledgends of this nature - they too would not be able to express their creativeness with this subject matter? Hmmm.

Beastiality is simply not allowed here. It's one of the subjects the site owners are not comfortable with, for whatever reason. there are many sites without this particular editorial oversite and you are free to post there.

There are several myth cycles, that deal with sexual congress between animals and humans. The minotaur of hellenistic mysth is the offspring of such a pairing, to name but one.

If, your projected crature is mystical, magical, or alien in nature, then the site owners make allowances and have a category for non-human encounters. If they are aliens, you also have the option of Sci-fi/fantasy.

My vampire stories are in non human. My sex with aliens all falls into sci-fi/fantasy. My work is pretty cut and dried, in that the creatures are fanciful in the extreme. I suspect, if you wrote of a indian shamaness who has sex with father bear or brother wolf or cyote the trickster, while on the other side, it would pass muster. these totem spirts, while animal in form, are imbued with personality and powers beyond mortal ken. If, on the other hand, your shaman happens upon a bear and they get it on, even if she muses it might be father bear, I doubt it would pass.

Whenever you include a recognizeable animal involved in the sex act, unless you have taken great pains to make sure it isn't percieved as just an animal, it's going to be rejected.

 

[Tugari]

Thats what I am saying. planet of the Apes, though - were not mythical creatures. They were evolved apes. (poor ones) but still.

You know - I find it amazing how so many people don't actually read the question and comments. i am not talking about actual sexual relationships with gorillas - I'm talking about sexual attraction - there is a big difference. A person can have a sexual attraction to someone or something but not act on it. (or maybe not, apparently)

 

[BlackSnake]

Thats what I am saying. planet of the Apes, though - were not mythical creatures. They were evolved apes. (poor ones) but still.

Just keep it fictional and there is no guarantee that any story will be accepted here.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

You know - I find it amazing how so many people don't actually read the question and comments. i am not talking about actual sexual relationships with gorillas - I'm talking about sexual attraction - there is a big difference. A person can have a sexual attraction to someone or something but not act on it. (or maybe not, apparently)

true. But here, the stories are predominantly erotic in nature. the site owners have some set rules. You can't depict anyone under 18 in a sexual situation. Kids cannot even wander in on mommy and daddy while they are geting it on.

For under 18 characters, sex simply cannot exist in an explicit form.

For animals, i suspect the same rules will apply. I'll use alice as an example. If she went to the zoo and got turned on by the ape, but then went home and had a hot session with her husband it might be acceptable, but if she is dreaming/fantacising about the ape during sex, it probably won't.

At the end of the day, the site owners have put rules in place they are comfortable with. Authors either accept those rules, or post elsewhere. You do have the option of pushing the edge of the rules, but if you do that, you really have no grounds for complaint if the work is rejected.

 

[Tugari]

Beastiality is simply not allowed here. It's one of the subjects the site owners are not comfortable with, for whatever reason. there are many sites without this particular editorial oversite and you are free to post there.

There are several myth cycles, that deal with sexual congress between animals and humans. The minotaur of hellenistic mysth is the offspring of such a pairing, to name but one.

If, your projected crature is mystical, magical, or alien in nature, then the site owners make allowances and have a category for non-human encounters. If they are aliens, you also have the option of Sci-fi/fantasy.

My vampire stories are in non human. My sex with aliens all falls into sci-fi/fantasy. My work is pretty cut and dried, in that the creatures are fanciful in the extreme. I suspect, if you wrote of a indian shamaness who has sex with father bear or brother wolf or cyote the trickster, while on the other side, it would pass muster. these totem spirts, while animal in form, are imbued with personality and powers beyond mortal ken. If, on the other hand, your shaman happens upon a bear and they get it on, even if she muses it might be father bear, I doubt it would pass.

Whenever you include a recognizeable animal involved in the sex act, unless you have taken great pains to make sure it isn't percieved as just an animal, it's going to be rejected.

Thank you Colleen. Believe me, I do take great pains to make sure the "animal-creature" is not percieved as just an animal. I am not fighting for the right to post beastiality, however. I just don't see the difference between sexual attraction between a human and a sentient gorilla (gorilla-man or gorilla-dragon-man) than a human with an alien, or Klingon or vulcan (who are not even earthlings) or mythical beasts or were-animals. I'm not arguing with you or anyone about LITS rules. I'm just asking, as a writer, what peoples opions are about it.

 

[Tugari]

Back To Normal:?

Og, I noticed your picture says your back to normal. I'm sorry to hear that.