Jumping the Shark

jfinn

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A friend of mine who writes gay stories recently put together a list that's extremely funny and unfortunately truthful about some of the traps we all can get into when writing erotica. A lot of them are specific for writing about male/male sex (which except on sites like Lit where it's not allowed are often about high school and college kids experiencing first times and/or true love), but a lot of them work for all kinds of porn so I thought I'd share it and also see if anybody could come up with some more that are specific to straight erotica. And don't worry there really isn't anything in this to offend anyone who doesn't read or like gay stories.

Jumping The Shark in Gay Fiction by Nick Archer

There’s a fun website devoted to television called Jump The Shark (http://jumptheshark.com/) They describe their mission as “It’s a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television show has reached it’s peak. That instant that you know from now on…..it’s all downhill. We call that moment Jumping the Shark.”

I’ve spent many hours laughing along with the amusing comments on the message boards. And then I thought to adapt the concept to gay fiction.

Jumping the Shark in Gay Fiction is a story element that is so overused it’s predictable. You can see what’s coming a country mile away. Or it’s a common mistake that amateur writers use. JTS in gay fiction is that moment or plot element that stretches our believability to the limit. Or it’s the story element that is so over-used that it’s a cliché. After that, it’s all downhill….assuming there was a climax in the first place.

Don’t take the list personally; all of us have used at least one of these in our stories.

· The “Personal Ad” Self-Description: “Me? I’m 6’1”, 175 lbs., blond hair, blue eyes, 8” uncut, and I have a 6-pack from doing 3000 sit-ups a day….”

· The Collision: Our hero collides with a potential love interest in a crowded hallway at school or work.

· Location, Location, Location: Stories are always located in sunny California or Florida with sex scenes on the beach. Ever get sand in your crack?

· Oversized Body Parts: Penises seem to gain at least two inches in every story on the Net. Do we really need to know the length, thickness and circumcision status of everyone’s dick?

· Richie Rich: This cliché often accompanies Dead Parents. The Parents die, leaving our Hero with gazillions. Or they have a perfect job what they can take endless time from and still earn millions a year. Or they win the lottery. If the main characters are teenagers, they never seem to have jobs. And how many college students today have the luxury of not working?

· Let’s Sit Around and Talk About Our Feelings: C’mon guys! This isn’t a sensitivity seminar or a conscience-raising session! These are horny, red-blooded guys! They’re only going to do enough talking to get into the other guy’s pants. After they’ve lit a cigarette and are staring at the ceiling, they might get around to talking about their emotions. Maybe.

· The Names-We-Wish-We-Had. Our parents gave us boring names – like David and John – so we’ll give our characters the names we wish our parents had named us. Justin. Tyler. Cody. Brad and Chad. Brice or Bryce. Roland.

· Sports Hero Falls For Geek/Nerd/Outcast: Maybe it’s one of fantasies – we’ve all jacked off with the image of the Sports Hero in our minds. Use the Sports Hero once, to get it out of your system, and then lay this cliché to rest for good.

· Moving is Traumatic: Moving may well be traumatic because it represents a loss of control over our lives (especially for teenagers). But let’s give this overused plot element a rest! Enough already!

· Teenagers Who Speak Like They Are 30: “Do you really deem me diligent because I persisted in my attempts to insert my penis into you? Your compliments are more than necessary, I’m sure." Your words are not untruthful, but they do border on hyperbole.”

· Teenagers Who Speak Like They Are From California: “Like c’mon, duuuuude, I just moved to California. That surfboard is totally rad! Bitchin’ Like, I’m so sure.”

· Superheroes: These are main characters without any flaws. They are perfect in every way. They’re beautiful, rich, intelligent, well hung, and fashionable and have a wonderful sense of humor. They would never get zits or an STD, or file bankruptcy, or lose their temper or – God forbid – fart. Leave the Superheroes for the comic books.

· Smilies: Never, never, never, never use smilies. Your job as an author is to paint a word-picture of your characters, plot and settings. Any interaction between yourself (the writer) and the reader should be done through words, not through icons.

· The Alarm Clock: Please, please don’t start your story with a ringing alarm clock. We all hate to get up in the morning, and everyone hates the sound of the damn thing. Why remind us? A corollary to this is the doorbell.

· Switching Narrators: If you feel the need to describe the thought processes of more than one character, I’ve got two words for you: third person! In third person you can describe the thoughts and feelings of ALL your characters if you are so inclined. What a concept!

· The “Phyllis” Syndrome: A bit of a preface is necessary here especially if you didn’t grow up in the seventies. The Mary Tyler Moore Show had two major spinoffs; Rhoda and Phyllis. Rhoda was successful because Rhoda Morgenstern was a likeable character and she was funny. She was everyone’s favorite next-door neighbor. Phyllis was not successful because the Phyllis character was basically unlikable – selfish, pretentious and boorish. The point is – be very, very careful if you make your main character unlikable.

· Is It Live or Memorex? All good fiction has elements of truth to it. And good autobiographies have elements of fiction to them. But make up your freaking mind! Are you writing fiction or an autobiography? If you’re writing fiction you have permission, no, you MUST stray from the facts. Not only to protect your ass from lawsuits but in order to make it fiction. If you absolutely can’t do it, if it’s too difficult for you to allow yourself to fictionalize your memories, then for God’s sake, label your story an autobiography and get on with it!


Can anybody think of some for the stories we see here?

Jayne
 
jfinn said:
· The Alarm Clock: Please, please don’t start your story with a ringing alarm clock. We all hate to get up in the morning, and everyone hates the sound of the damn thing. Why remind us? A corollary to this is the doorbell.


*blush* Wow somehow I didn't think I'd find myself guilty of any of them .. and let me tell you this isn't the only one thats a guilt thing, but It's one of my favorite scenes I've writen. It's not on lit yet, it's the start of ch 5 of my fan fic that is rapidly getting outta hand, but not only did I do the doorbell thing, I had the whole set up be the groggy awakenings of someone who at first thought it was the alarm clock, then realized it was the door. So managed to violate alarm clock and door within moments of each other.

I still think my alarm/door scene works and sets up conflict in my story so I'm leaving my cliche, but now that I'm aware of it, I don't think I'll be using an alarm clock again unless I -really- need it.

alex756
http://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=177120
 
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Alex756 said:
*blush* Wow somehow I didn't think I'd find myself guilty of any of them .. http://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=177120

LOL, like it says, don't take the list personally. We're all guilty of using at least some of these. Personally, I've done the jock, the accident, the rich kid, the talking things to death and all in the same story!:eek:

The trick I think is to take the cliche and turn it inside out and make it into something unique. If you can do that, then you've actually got something quite special.

Jayne
 
I think I'm only guilty of 2..

· Let’s Sit Around and Talk About Our Feelings: C’mon guys! This isn’t a sensitivity seminar or a conscience-raising session! These are horny, red-blooded guys! They’re only going to do enough talking to get into the other guy’s pants. After they’ve lit a cigarette and are staring at the ceiling, they might get around to talking about their emotions. Maybe.

· The Names-We-Wish-We-Had. Our parents gave us boring names – like David and John – so we’ll give our characters the names we wish our parents had named us. Justin. Tyler. Cody. Brad and Chad. Brice or Bryce. Roland.

My characters are usually well endowed, but I almost never mention the size, I just say that it's big. Then it's up to the reader to create a mental image based on his/her own sense of measurements.
 
Hmmmmmmmmm

Not really guilty of any mentioned, but I tend to have my gay male characters appear within the stories, bi-sexual events mainly, so I don't tend to dwell on them or their make up etc for long enough to fall into any of the traps.

I did stray into the 'mummy made my gay' territory and dwell on a gay character and the reasons for his strange behaviour as well as his heavily gay tendencies in one story, well an unfinished three part affair actually, 'A nice surprise for Brian' Not everyone's cup of tea and a bit crude so don't get stressed if you read it and don't like it, forced fantasy thing. But hey these wicked things happen in real life as well as fiction.

pops...
 
The actual term "jumping the shark" is misused here., The term refers specifically to a late episode of the old TV series "Happy Days" when Fonzy jumped a fountain full of sharks on his motorcycle, and is used to refer to the point when a piece of serial art over-reaches itself and becomes unintentionally ludicrous; a parody of itself. As he says, the series--be it a series of stories or a TV show or a bunch of movies--invariably goes downhill from there on as the audience no longer is willing to suspend disbelief or give the story the benefit of the doubt. As a resident pain in the ass, I felt it was my duty to point that out.

What your friend is really talking about are those story cliches that tell us we're in for a big disappointment, if not actual nausea, if we continue reading; those authorial lapses that irritate or actually make us doubt his talent. We've discussed these before, but it's always fun to go over them again. My problem is that I never remember specific ones. I just know them when I see them.

Okay: I remember some:

Numerical measurements, whether of dicks or chests or cup sizes, or the ubiquitous 6'2" 180 pounds without an ounce of fat on him. In this category too go mentions of how many times a week someone works out "at the health club". I say fuck you and your health club.

Failures of description could be my biggest category of red flags. "World-class tits" is one of my faves. "The most gorgeous ass I'd ever seen." "A body most women would kill for." "She turned men's heads." "The best looking guy in the school." Gag.

Stories that start with a weather report: "It was a warm/perfect/rainy day in June/1998/Seatle/my freshman year." A total failure of imagination from the get go. It makes me feel like some bore has come to regale me with his personal reminiscences.

Characters who look like celebrities. It just means the author has no powers of description whatsoever.

"It was something I know I'll always remember." This usually comes at the end of the story when it's too late to duck. If you see it at the start, save yourself.

As I say, I try not to remember these, but they are legion.


---dr.M.
 
One of my more popular stories has both, a rich guy, and a gym instructor.

IMHO The way they are used(Introduced) in the story determines whether or not they constitute a cliché.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
Stories that start with a weather report: "It was a warm/perfect/rainy day in June/1998/Seatle/my freshman year." A total failure of imagination from the get go. It makes me feel like some bore has come to regale me with his personal reminiscences..

I've never read it, I'm not entirely sure of the author (Hold on I'll look it up)... here we are: Thomas Hardy; Return Of The Native. I'm given to understand (mainly by Monty Python) that this is a classic piece of work, begins;

"A Saturday in November was approaching the time of twilight..."

Don't know if this proves or disproves anything or not, just thought I'd mention it.;)

Gauche
 
Oh, Gauche. . .

gauchecritic said:
Thomas Hardy; Return Of The Native. I'm given to understand (mainly by Monty Python) that this is a classic piece of work, begins; "A Saturday in November was approaching the time of twilight..."
This is one of my favorite books, with one of my favorite force-of-nature heroines, Eustacia Vye. To me, and not IMHO, this is core eroticism. My near future goal is to save the $60-80 to buy the recording of Native with narration by *Alan Rickman*. I plan to swoon for however many hours he reads.

Hardy took the old gothic romances and landscape novels/sappy poetry and turned them into art. As an adolescent I identified with Eustacia's "hunger". Hardy knew 'woman'.

There's a several years old Brit tv production of the book w/a young and too vapid C. Zeta-Jones as EV. She did EV an injustice; don't know who might play her well now, perhaps the Aussie actress, Rachel Griffiths.

"Eustacia Vye" - say it aloud.

Like you still, Pear :rose:
 
dr_mabeuse said:
Stories that start with a weather report: "It was a warm/perfect/rainy day in June/1998/Seatle/my freshman year." A total failure of imagination from the get go. It makes me feel like some bore has come to regale me with his personal reminiscences.

It was a dark and stormy night...

The Earl
 
jumping into the shark pond

It was a light and sunny day in West Hollywood when my alarm clock went off and Chad the super-model nudged me with his 11-1/2 inch love-snake saying we had to get to the lawyers to read his recently deceased parents' will as they had been in the last Concorde landing collision which we had witnessed together at Heathrow airport while waiting for our Olympic gold medalist lovers returning from Paris, France when we realized accidentally that we were wearing matching Ralph Lauren polo shirts and spent the weekend grieving together and having multiple simultaneous orgasms with a bellhop and an old-fashioned rent boy who looked respectively, but not very respectably, just like Alan Rickman and Gary Oldman, and who we invited to join us for the special preview screening of the new Harry Potter movie where we woud be introduced to the books' author and the princes William and Harry before being seated in the Royal box with the Queen Mum and Mrs. Parker-Bowles who would later tell us everything she and Charles did with a box of tampons while wearing matching Ralph Lauren polo shirts.
 
Perdita - stop now before it's too late

Writing like that is infectious.

Bulwer-Lytton cornered the market in the 19th century.

I did it in The Worst Chain Story Ever as a sample of how dreadful writing can be.

If it isn't stopped it will infect all of us.

Short and simple kills it dead, I hope.

Og
 
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perdita said:
It was a light and sunny day in West Hollywood when my alarm clock went off and Chad the super-model nudged me with his ..............

Dear Dita,
You forgot:
A. He didn't have an ounce of fat on him
B. He had a six pack abdomen from hundreds of situps daily
Without those items, it just doesn't work for me.
MG
 
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perdita said:
It was a light and sunny day in West Hollywood when my alarm clock went off and Chad the super-model nudged me with his 11-1/2 inch love-snake saying we had to get to the lawyers to read his recently deceased parents' will as they had been in the last Concorde landing collision which we had witnessed together at Heathrow airport while waiting for our Olympic gold medalist lovers returning from Paris, France when we realized accidentally that we were wearing matching Ralph Lauren polo shirts and spent the weekend grieving together and having multiple simultaneous orgasms with a bellhop and an old-fashioned rent boy who looked respectively, but not very respectably, just like Alan Rickman and Gary Oldman, and who we invited to join us for the special preview screening of the new Harry Potter movie where we woud be introduced to the books' author and the princes William and Harry before being seated in the Royal box with the Queen Mum and Mrs. Parker-Bowles who would later tell us everything she and Charles did with a box of tampons while wearing matching Ralph Lauren polo shirts.


That is the funniest fucking thing I've read in a month. I'd like to hear John Cleese reading that.
 
I have a very visual imagination. Right now, I can actually SEE (and hear) John Cleese walking around in a silly fashion, reading that text out loud in a very strict and pompous voice...:(
 
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MathGirl said:
You forgot:
A. He didn't have an ounce of fat on him
B. He had a six pack abdomen from hundreds of situps daily
I am taking Ogg's advice so I will not revise my sentence. But I think, based on the above responses, that I should be given the first B-L prize on Lit. And I don't want an old first ed. copy of Sexus, Nexus, Plexus as my reward (see the sex & humor thread for my reasons). I read somewhere on Lit. there's a "golden cock" award (cums with batteries); that would suit me fine.

MG: one must leave something to the reader's imagination. You are too severe a critic I think; did DG put you up to making those spiteful points?

Anyone: how can we contact Cleese? What about the pervs producing the latest Bond flix.

Proud Perdita
 
Now imagine the above text being read out loud by a silly-walking...

Alan Rickman
Gary Oldman
Rowan Atkinson
Gary Dourdan
Antonio Banderas

rofl...:D
 
Who dat?

Svenskaflicka said:
Alan Rickman
Gary Oldman
Rowan Atkinson
Gary Dourdan
Antonio Banderas

Dear Svenska,
Should I know who those people are?
MG
 
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perdita said:
It was a light and sunny day in West Hollywood when my alarm clock went off and Chad the super-model nudged me with his 11-1/2 inch love-snake saying we had to get to the lawyers to read his recently deceased parents' will as they had been in the last Concorde landing collision which we had witnessed together at Heathrow airport while waiting for our Olympic gold medalist lovers returning from Paris, France when we realized accidentally that we were wearing matching Ralph Lauren polo shirts and spent the weekend grieving together and having multiple simultaneous orgasms with a bellhop and an old-fashioned rent boy who looked respectively, but not very respectably, just like Alan Rickman and Gary Oldman, and who we invited to join us for the special preview screening of the new Harry Potter movie where we woud be introduced to the books' author and the princes William and Harry before being seated in the Royal box with the Queen Mum and Mrs. Parker-Bowles who would later tell us everything she and Charles did with a box of tampons while wearing matching Ralph Lauren polo shirts.

You forgot to mention the bj's they gave Harry and Wills in the bathroom, but other than that it was just perfect.

Jayne
 
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jfinn said:
You forgot to mention the bj's they gave Harry and Wills in the bathroom, but other than that it was just perfect.
Man, what a tough group of crits. Ogg, you'd better be ready to lead an intervention if I choose to revise. P.

p.s. Ms. Finn: how can you say "other than that" it was perfect? Fix your sentence, please.
 
Originally posted by Svenskaflicka
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Originally posted by MathGirl
Dear Svenska,
Should I know who those people are?
MG
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No, not really. They are known only to those of us born before 1990...
She's so young and sweet, isn't she?
 
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