Judaism AMA

[RobDownSouth]

Not sure what the context of your statement is. Do you have a link?

My sincere apology, it wasn't you, it was your fellow Jewish apologist @AveryElle that made the specious Google AI claim against me.

I'm not Jewish, so I can readily own up to errors of fact that I occasionally make. Most of the Jews in this thread (@BrightShinyGirl , @Noor and the geriatric @Justplainjeff in particular) are fundamentally incapable of admitting error, because they lack basic morality and human decency.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Not sure what the context of your statement is. Do you have a link?

My sincere apology, it wasn't you, it was your fellow Jewish apologist @AveryElle that made the specious Google AI claim against me.

I'm not Jewish, so I can readily own up to errors of fact that I occasionally make. Most of the Jews in this thread (@BrightShinyGirl , @Noor and the geriatric @Justplainjeff in particular) are fundamentally incapable of admitting error, because they lack basic morality and human decency.

Did they really make errors, or did they just disagree with your opinion?

Are you saying there's some reason you think Jews in particular can't "own up to errors of fact"?

Also, just out of curiosity, why aren't you accusing me of being one "of the Jews in this thread"?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

My sincere apology, it wasn't you, it was your fellow Jewish apologist @AveryElle that made the specious Google AI claim against me.

I'm not Jewish, so I can readily own up to errors of fact that I occasionally make. Most of the Jews in this thread (@BrightShinyGirl , @Noor and the geriatric @Justplainjeff in particular) are fundamentally incapable of admitting error, because they lack basic morality and human decency.

"The only ones being starved are the Israeli hostages."

 

[RobDownSouth]

Did they really make errors, or did they just disagree with your opinion?

To be honest, until the above statement, I wasn't quite sure you were Jewish at all, as you did not engage in specious wordplay to justify your position. But.....you just went there. You've twisted the standard argument they push that "anyone who disagrees with me is an ANTISEMITE!". I see no "difference of opinion" here. That's MAGA both-sidesism. I have have documented facts in my arguments, the best they offer in reply is "nuh uh! U R Antisemitic"

I now forever hold the moral high ground over the three of these choads.

Are you saying there's some reason you think Jews in particular can't "own up to errors of fact"?

Yes, yes I am. They've surrendered their honor, their credibility and their honesty in their misguided desire to "defend Judiasm" by advancing the Official Narrative of the genocidal Israel Public Relations office....

...the same office that has had remarkable success to date re-defining and expanding the century old definition of the word "anti-semitism" to include anything that offends or has the ability to offend delicate Jewish sensibilities.

I've said this before: At it's logical extreme, this specious and arbitrary redefinition is the opening salvo on the War On Christmas. The end game? In a perfect Jewish States of America, there is no Santa Claus in Macy's Thanksgiving parade, and Christmas trees will be banned. Likely Reductio ad absurdum, I admit, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

Simply put, in my opinion labelling criticism of genocidal Israel's secular government as a religious "Antisemitic hate crime" is an abomination, a perversion of the Jewish faith.

Also, just out of curiosity, why aren't you accusing me of being one "of the Jews in this thread"?

You have, to date, refrained from spewing the generic "U R Antisemitic" reflexive response unlike the majority of the rest of the Jews in this thread. That puts you head-and-shoulders above them intellectually, which is admittedly damning you with faint praise.

But I nonetheless applaud you for not making this personal.

p.s. can we agree that the deliberate starvation of innocent children as a government policy is a heinous war crime that can never be rationalized?

 

[RobDownSouth]

"The only ones being starved are the Israeli hostages."

Typical DARVO.

"Israelis are the REAL victims here!"

Not getting much traction anymore with your propaganda, have you noticed?

Fewer and fewer people around the world each day accept The Narrative.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

To be honest, until the above statement, I wasn't quite sure you were Jewish at all, as you did not engage in specious wordplay to justify your position. But.....you just went there. You've twisted the standard argument they push that "anyone who disagrees with me is an ANTISEMITE!". I see no "difference of opinion" here. That's MAGA both-sidesism. I have have documented facts in my arguments, the best they offer in reply is "nuh uh! U R Antisemitic"

I now forever hold the moral high ground over the three of these choads.

Yes, yes I am. They've surrendered their honor, their credibility and their honesty in their misguided desire to "defend Judiasm" by advancing the Official Narrative of the genocidal Israel Public Relations office....

...the same office that has had remarkable success to date re-defining and expanding the century old definition of the word "anti-semitism" to include anything that offends or has the ability to offend delicate Jewish sensibilities.

I've said this before: At it's logical extreme, this specious and arbitrary redefinition is the opening salvo on the War On Christmas. The end game? In a perfect Jewish States of America, there is no Santa Claus in Macy's Thanksgiving parade, and Christmas trees will be banned. Likely Reductio ad absurdum, I admit, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

Simply put, in my opinion labelling criticism of genocidal Israel's secular government as a religious "Antisemitic hate crime" is an abomination, a perversion of the Jewish faith.


You have, to date, refrained from spewing the generic "U R Antisemitic" reflexive response unlike the majority of the rest of the Jews in this thread. That puts you head-and-shoulders above them intellectually, which is admittedly damning you with faint praise.

But I nonetheless applaud you for not making this personal.

p.s. can we agree that the deliberate starvation of innocent children as a government policy is a heinous war crime that can never be rationalized?

Jews don't have any issue with Christians celebrating Christmas.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Typical DARVO.

"Israelis are the REAL victims here!"

Not getting much traction anymore with your propaganda, have you noticed?

Fewer and fewer people around the world each day accept The Narrative.

The hostages being starved in the tunnels in Gaza are innocent victims. Kidnapping them was a crime. There should be international pressure to free them, or at least to allow the Red Cross to deliver aid to them.

 

[Hel_Books]

RobDownSouth said:
My sincere apology, it wasn't you, it was your fellow Jewish apologist @AveryElle that made the specious Google AI claim against me.

I'm not Jewish, so I can readily own up to errors of fact that I occasionally make. Most of the Jews in this thread (@BrightShinyGirl , @Noor and the geriatric @Justplainjeff in particular) are fundamentally incapable of admitting error, because they lack basic morality and human decency.

"The only ones being starved are the Israeli hostages."

Oh, I'm sure there is plenty of malnutrition and some starvation among the Moslems in Gaza. But there was plenty of hardship in, say, Berlin in mid-1945. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

I wonder if they'd taken a poll in Gaza on 6 October, before the massacre on 7 October. Suppose they'd told them Hamas would perpetrate a massacre of Jews, the Jews would counterattack and many Moslems would die and by the time two years had passed Gaza would be in ruins and there would be great suffering. Suppose they asked them, "Would it be worth it, in exchange for killing a thousand plus Jews and taking a bunch hostage to use as bargaining chips?"

How many would say, "Sure, I don't care what the price is, make those Jews suffer!"

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Did they really make errors, or did they just disagree with your opinion?

To be honest, until the above statement, I wasn't quite sure you were Jewish at all,

And . . . are you sure I'm Jewish now? If so, why?

 

[Lazaran]

Typical DARVO.

"Israelis are the REAL victims here!"

Not getting much traction anymore with your propaganda, have you noticed?

Fewer and fewer people around the world each day accept The Narrative.

Yeah, Rob, Hamas / Russia / Iran / China / NK / Etc used the atrocious genocidal 10/7 Hanas / "Palestinian" attack on Israel (and Israel’s predictable scorched earth response) as a way to create a distraction from Ukraine / Taiwan / Etc, and split America’s / Americans’ attention - AND to split the Democratic Party to help elect DonOld & the MAGAt republicans. (And, yes, Russia, etc, likely factored in Netanyahu’s political / personal situation when they green-lighted the 10/7 attack.

Russia, etc, particularly counted on people like you, Rob, to get so emotionally invested in saving the children (many of whom are Hamas fighters) in Gaza and taking your eye off the big picture: Ukraine, America, Taiwan, AND DEMOCRACY ITSELF. And all for the "Palestinians" who are a most unworthy cause (especially after the Hamas 10/7 rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation).

Congratulations, you played yourself.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Pad_Foot]

I hope no white phosphorus got down to where Hamas is holding prisoners!
Nasty stuff!!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yeah, Rob, Hamas / Russia / Iran / China / NK / Etc used the atrocious genocidal 10/7 Hanas / "Palestinian" attack on Israel (and Israel’s predictable scorched earth response) as a way to create a distraction from Ukraine / Taiwan / Etc, and split America’s / Americans’ attention - AND to split the Democratic Party to help elect DonOld & the MAGAt republicans. (And, yes, Russia, etc, likely factored in Netanyahu’s political / personal situation when they green-lighted the 10/7 attack.

Russia, etc, particularly counted on people like you, Rob, to get so emotionally invested in saving the children (many of whom are Hamas fighters) in Gaza and taking your eye off the big picture: Ukraine, America, Taiwan, AND DEMOCRACY ITSELF. And all for the "Palestinians" who are a most unworthy cause (especially after the Hamas 10/7 rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation).

Congratulations, you played yourself.



We. Told. Them. So.

Nope.

 

[rgraham666]

Christ. Humans sure do love to hate, don't they?

 

[Lazaran]

Nope.

Yep.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[coati]

Laz and BSG appear to be saying that Judaism (the topic of this thread) requires agreement with the war tactics of the current administration in Israel, and anyone who disagrees with those tactics is anti-Semitic, or at least being duped by anti-Semites.

Obviously not all Jews agree with this.

 

[Noor]

Laz and BSG appear to be saying that Judaism (the topic of this thread) requires agreement with the war tactics of the current administration in Israel, and anyone who disagrees with those tactics is anti-Semitic, or at least being duped by anti-Semites.

Obviously not all Jews agree with this.

Nonsense, they aren’t saying that at all.

 

[coati]

Christ. Humans sure do love to hate, don't they?

Yes, among the animal species on planet Earth, humans seem to have the most potential for arrogance, hate, and species-self-destruction.

They also have the potential for rationality and collaboration, but we're seeing less of that these days.

 

[Lazaran]

Laz and BSG appear to be saying

That ^ is where you went wrong…



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[coati]

Nonsense, they aren’t saying that at all.

I disagree. This thread started out as discussion about Judaism but once again devolved into BSG's false assertion about there not being a famine in Gaza among the Palestinians, Palestinians that Laz just labeled as "unworthy".

What does that have to do with BSG's stated intent to discuss the beliefs of Judaism? It's not part of the belief system, is it? I know Jews who don't accept this as an article of faith.

 

[coati]

That ^ is where you went wrong…



We. Told. Them. So.

I read BSG's citation of the current Israeli government (post 1028) and your post #1035.

I think I'll go elsewhere to learn more about the alleged topic of this thread.

And what's with your repetitive "We. Told. Them. So." shtick? Who is "We" and who is "Them" in this situation?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Jews don't have any issue with Christians celebrating Christmas.

Nor do I have any issue with Jews celebrating Hamakua.

https://www.literotica.com/s/a-hanukkah-gift

 

[RobDownSouth]

Laz and BSG appear to be saying that Judaism (the topic of this thread) requires agreement with the war tactics of the current administration in Israel, and anyone who disagrees with those tactics is anti-Semitic, or at least being duped by anti-Semites.

Obviously not all Jews agree with this.

Yep.

And sadly, Laz took a large step down the path to the dark side when he referred to a one day attack by an angry and starving Hamas mass on 10/7 as a "genocide" against the genocidal Israeli nation.

That's a supremely disrespectful conflation attempts that dishonors all the victims that perished in camps via German government policy in World War 2.

Laz took guidance from the updated Judaism 2025 handbook, took a virtual trip to the United States Holocaust memorial museum on the National Mall in Washington DC, purchased a ticket, walked to the middle of the first floor atrium, shouted "Look At Me!", then dropped his trousers and shit all over the Holocaust museum floor to show his utter contempt (which he likely refers to as "solidarity") for the REAL victims of WW2 genocide....afterwards he declared himself "just" and "righteous" for doing so, in accordance with the newly revised interpretation of the Talmud.

We
Told
Him
"No".

• Boycott
• Divest
• Sanction
• War Crime Tribunal

"God's Chosen People" chose their own fate.

 

[Lazaran]

I read BSG's citation of the current Israeli government (post 1028) and your post #1035.

Nice selective parsing of my post that completely omits context and the rational point(s) being made: Derpy level, in fact.

I think I'll go elsewhere to learn more about the alleged topic of this thread.

Maybe go back and see who ACTUALLY derailed this thread…

And what's with your repetitive "We. Told. Them. So." shtick? Who is "We" and who is "Them" in this situation?

We. Told. Them. So. is targeted at ANYONE who: voted for Trump & the MAGAt republicans; withheld their vote from Kamala & the Democrats for "reasons"; voted "third party" because "both sides" (Democrats & republicans "are the same"), or who voted for Kamala and the Democrats, but only after TRASHING THEM UP AND DOWN THROUGHOUT THE ELECTION CYCLE (these clowns frustrate me the most, because they claim ZERO responsibility for Trump & the MAGAt republicans seizing power).



And:

Sometimes it is quite specific to the topic of a thread: I.E. - a topic involving members of a < insert minority demographic who believed Trump & the MAGAt republicans: weren’t going to be that extreme; were going to lower "GROCERY!!!" prices, etc; we’re going to end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours of being elected; we’re going to BE BETTER FOR GAZA, weren’t going to go after same sex marriage, etc, etc, etc > .

I have particular contempt for Susan Sarandon & the Bernie Bros who, etc, who enabled Trump & the the MAGAt republicans to establish themselves in 2016.

Fuck them ^ to hell.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Hel_Books]

"God's Chosen People" chose their own fate.

Which chosen people? The followers of Mohammed? The people of the Talmud? The Millerites?

This thinking of oneself as "chosen" and hence thinking of others (such as the Jews killed on 7 October) as somehow lesser beings is one of the worst inventions of the human mind.

Give me the good old fashioned Zeus and Poseidon and Hades and all the rest and toss this newfangled monotheism into the dustbin, I say.

 

[coati]

Nice selective parsing of my post that completely omits context and the rational point(s) being made: Derpy level, in fact.

Fuck off with your comparison to Derpy. The second paragraph of your post that I cited speaks for itself. Palestinian children are not an unworthy cause, no matter how arrogant you are about justifying such a gross statement with your know-it-all interpretation of the "big picture". Starvation of children is a war crime.

Fuck your lame "context".