John Conyers out?

We are about to be blessed with that corrupt clown out of the picture. Did his wife ever go to prison?

I don't recall, does it matter? Actually the district is going to stay democrat no matter what. Just wondering if his replacement, if that's in the cards, is going to play the Charlie Rangel to his Adam Clayton Powell?

Ishmael
 
He can still run as a write-in...

...he won his district last time with 83% of the vote.
 
I am not a fan of Term limits, but yah. This guys shelf life is about 20 years past due.
 
I am not a fan of Term limits, but yah. This guys shelf life is about 20 years past due.

I am a fan of term limits. It seems to me that somewhere around their 8th year in office they turn sour. I can only think of a handful, from any party, that made it past that 'expiration date' and still remained true to themselves and their constituents.

Ishmael
 
I am a fan of term limits. It seems to me that somewhere around their 8th year in office they turn sour. I can only think of a handful, from any party, that made it past that 'expiration date' and still remained true to themselves and their constituents.

Ishmael

My former representative that was also my neighbor at the time campaigned on term limits he was part of the Gingrich balancing the budget and welfare reform that Clinton now pretends was his idea rather than passed over his strong objections.

Since he had campaigned I think on three terms and out, on his third term he retired. Most of the rest did not. He is now back again trying to make a difference again. I don't live in his district anymore. Some interests in keeping family issues off the national stage keeps him lower key than he might have aspired to.

Seniority for committees and speaker or senate leadership is a horrible system...only ideological obstructionists that can afford to be that way because they are in safe district make it to power...they stay til they are senile.

Since law is, anymore, written by- entrenched bureaucrats, staffers that seem to come with the newly held office, and lawyer-lobbyists, I don't know term limits would solve much but it is a start.
 
Kind of weird that a guy who's been reelected eleventy million times and is a shoe-in for the seat would fumble the registration process. Should have been easy enough for him to do it right.

That said, I'm not a fan of fossils in office.
 
Kind of weird that a guy who's been reelected eleventy million times and is a shoe-in for the seat would fumble the registration process. Should have been easy enough for him to do it right.

That said, I'm not a fan of fossils in office.

I think that at some point in their career they reach the threshold of 'entitlement.' Much like Baldwin's recent arrest where he expressed outrage that the cops didn't know him and therefore should have let him go without penalty. Conyers seems to be expressing outrage that the elections clerk actually did her job and didn't let is slide.

Ishmael
 
My former representative that was also my neighbor at the time campaigned on term limits he was part of the Gingrich balancing the budget and welfare reform that Clinton now pretends was his idea rather than passed over his strong objections.

Since he had campaigned I think on three terms and out, on his third term he retired. Most of the rest did not. He is now back again trying to make a difference again. I don't live in his district anymore. Some interests in keeping family issues off the national stage keeps him lower key than he might have aspired to.

Seniority for committees and speaker or senate leadership is a horrible system...only ideological obstructionists that can afford to be that way because they are in safe district make it to power...they stay til they are senile.

Since law is, anymore, written by- entrenched bureaucrats, staffers that seem to come with the newly held office, and lawyer-lobbyists, I don't know term limits would solve much but it is a start.

It is a serious problem............for us, the constituent. The lobbyists et al love it. They only have to grease the palms of the most senior to get their legislation to the floor.

Ishmael
 
Kind of weird that a guy who's been reelected eleventy million times and is a shoe-in for the seat would fumble the registration process. Should have been easy enough for him to do it right.

That said, I'm not a fan of fossils in office.

I know the news keeps trying to spin it that someone from his office messed up the forms along the line but whatever. After all this time, do any of us really believe that?
 
I know the news keeps trying to spin it that someone from his office messed up the forms along the line but whatever. After all this time, do any of us really believe that?

Not really. The forms weren't messed up, the procedure they used was. In particular the law requires that the person collecting the signatures be a registered voter in the district. (Yes, I'm aware that the ACLU believes this to be unconstitutional although on what grounds eludes me.) That requirement seems simple enough to me and apparently that is what disqualified many of the signatures.

Ishmael
 
I know the news keeps trying to spin it that someone from his office messed up the forms along the line but whatever. After all this time, do any of us really believe that?

Dunno. I think it was pretty clear. They didn't follow a rule. A simple rule that they could have easily followed: Only a registered voter gets to do that particular legwork. It's not like there were no locals willing to step up.

Why didn't they follow the rule? Probably a combination of complacency, arrogance and sloppiness. Sucks to be them, but them's the rules.
 
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