Amy Sweet
Literotica Guru
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- Nov 29, 2004
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BlackShanglan said:
For a long time I gave Joe the benefit of the doubt that it was simply an innocent misunderstanding- but it happens so often when everyone else understands and Joe is one of the smartest guys on the board, so I've come to doubt the 'innocence' of his 'misunderstandings'
Sometimes it is helpful to clarify words and meanings, but again you should still keep the spirit of the message in mind as much as possible. For example: If I say, "I'm tired of staring at these same four walls," and you say "There are actually *five* walls in this room" that is simply not a helpful statement in any way. If you really want to clarify, you should be trying to find out if I'm feeling bored, restless, depressed or some combination of the three and either sympathise or help come up with a solution. ("Yeah, me too, I wish we had some money so we could go out to dinner.")
On to the topic of jargan- the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is 'gainsaying'-- I've heard that from him as well as other logic and debate type words that I don't remember. Not always, but plenty of times his posts are filled with acusations of incorrect debating style or whatever complete with debate/logic vocabulary.
And finally, maybe this is just a pet peeve, but the way he words his sentances *so* carefully that, first of all, they are really long and difficult to understand the meaning of, and lastly contain so many qualifiers that in the end, they hardly actually say anything. He refutes things, but he refuses to assert anything unless its 101% scientifically proven true. And it's to the point were one rarely knows were he stands on anything, and if one puts it together from the available clues he is either offended and acts wounded or explains why he doens't beleive that particular thing *neccessarily*
So the final thing is that he is argumentative and yet, he has almost nothing to say with all of his words. I think, though, that it's more than a pet peeve- I think it's sort of a verbal defense that's actually quite cowardly. He shoots down everybodies arguments with his Logic and offers little or nothing to replace it, meanwhile staying safely tucked behind his words, never risking making any sort of statement about anything- never 'sticking his neck out' but meanwhile, happily chopping others heads right off there necks- so many others just don't stick there's out either or loose interest. this is not very elecquantly put at all, I"m just doing my best to show where my frustration (and others) comes from.
And Finally, I also get PM's encouraging me that I'm doing the right thing. And I really don't think I ever told Joe that he should just shut up and go away, or anything like that.
I hope this makes sense and answers some of your questions. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way- just one of the most vocal.
