JFK: A real piece of shit

Ham Murabi

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JFK and 19-year-old White House intern Mimi Alford -- a truly shameful revelation



This is a story about a young and impressionable female intern in the White House -- a virgin, with girlish dreams about princes and presidents. Young girls are trained to marry the wealthiest or most powerful man on the block. When the prince comes calling, few young girls can resist this opportunity.

However, they are not the ones who are abusing power and betraying both youth and a wife. That would be the prince or president himself.

And no, I am not talking about Monica Lewinsky in the Clinton White House.

I am talking, sadly, about the recent revelations by a former intern, Mimi Alford, in the Kennedy White House.
Alford is no Marilyn Monroe, who was reputedly the mistress of both John F. and Robert F. Kennedy. Nor, is she Judith Exner, who was reputedly the "Mata Hari" connection between President Kennedy and Sam Giancana, a Mafia operative. These were adult women who chose to use their sexuality to further their careers.

Alford is not in this category. Like then-First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy, Alford attended the prestigious Miss Porter's School in Farmington, Connecticut. She was "wife" material--but President Kennedy treated her in a shameful and inappropriate fashion.

In television interviews, a much older Mimi Alpert now admits that she was not "guilty" about being "overpowered" by a man 25 years her senior. True, he was married, but he was "handsome," and the "president" and she describes him as having expertly maneuvered her into bed. Yes, she could have screamed out but then what?


No access to power, no feeling "special," agonizing embarrassment, no internship.

Girls and women make just such devil's bargains every day. They do not care about the humiliated or left-in-the-dark wife nor do they care about how little they really matter to the Great Man.

In reading Alford's revelations, perhaps the saddest incident concerns the president turning to Alford, a disposable stranger, for sexual comfort after the death of his infant son.

No, he did not break the law.

In fact, it's important to remember that neither Ms. Alford nor Ms. Lewinsky ever alleged sexual harassment or rape. But both young women were manipulated into feeling very, very "special," even important. Neither dared say "no" to their commander-in-chief.

His wife had suffered an emergency Caesarean and the infant boy died two days later. Instead of remaining at his grieving wife's side to comfort her, he turned to his nubile intern for...escape.
Well, maybe an even sadder incident is when Kennedy pimped out Mimi to his aide and friend, Dave Powers--Kennedy watched. (Alford now admits she is ashamed that she went along with this).
 
Sorry, Ham, but Vetteman beat you to it by several days.

You should feel free to discuss Newt's women if you're bored.
 
the wingnut propaganda machine has found a new target for the month... and the sheeplings tow the party line.
 
So is this the month we're supposed to be outraged by this stuff?

In January, the month of Newt, we were told that it's not important in the least. It's all so confusing!
 
Maybe it's just me, but I just don't give a shit about the circumstances or reasons behind anyone's sexual behavior 50 years ago.
 
Sounds like she has a book deal or movie in the works. Basically it is a "she said" with no proof.

Maybe it happened. I think we all know that our politicians are not boy scouts no matter how much it is your fantasy.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I just don't give a shit about the circumstances or reasons behind anyone's sexual behavior 50 years ago.

And what impact did it have on the Presidency? Maybe the lesson is that it doesn't matter even if it's now.

The US people are so provincial.
 
Sorry, Ham, but Vetteman beat you to it by several days.

You should feel free to discuss Newt's women if you're bored.

It started off as indifference. I already knew JFK fucked around, got pushed around by Kruschev, and took an incredible amount of drugs. And, oh yeah, he thought MLK was moving way too fast. You dreamers see JFK leading the civil rights movement and marching in Selma, but the facts are a bit harsh.
Then I got beyond the headline to the facts of this story and found myself even more appalled at his behavior. Really, fucking an intern after his son's death while his wife is recuperating, then arranging for the intern to fuck a friend while he watches. Jesus Christ, he was as bad as Ted.
And BTW, Newt's a slimeball and you haven't seen me defending his behavior.
 
Look at it this way, at least there weren't secret tapes released of JFK going "Who's Your Daddy?"
 
It started off as indifference. I already knew JFK fucked around, got pushed around by Kruschev, and took an incredible amount of drugs. And, oh yeah, he thought MLK was moving way too fast. You dreamers see JFK leading the civil rights movement and marching in Selma, but the facts are a bit harsh.
Then I got beyond the headline to the facts of this story and found myself even more appalled at his behavior. Really, fucking an intern after his son's death while his wife is recuperating, then arranging for the intern to fuck a friend while he watches. Jesus Christ, he was as bad as Ted.
And BTW, Newt's a slimeball and you haven't seen me defending his behavior.

The left is full of myths about JFK and Camelot, like how he was going to get us out of Vietnam right after the election. Totally false, yet a generation of malleable minds were fed this shit by left wing professors and media types. :rolleyes:


I'm guessing you are older guys? Most people, Ok Liberals or Democrats or whatever you want to say, aren't dreamers over JFK anymore. We don't much think about him at all to be honest. I'm 41, and I sure don't, so I can't imagine people much younger care.

Truth be told, this story is only relevant to senior citizens. He was POTUS a long, long time ago.
 
I'm guessing you are older guys? Most people, Ok Liberals or Democrats or whatever you want to say, aren't dreamers over JFK anymore. We don't much think about him at all to be honest. I'm 41, and I sure don't, so I can't imagine people much younger care.

Truth be told, this story is only relevant to senior citizens. He was POTUS a long, long time ago.

Ham and Vetty are both in their 60s, they're lower middle class bitter white men who never amounted to much and have slowly realized that they never will amount to much. Both of them have this inordinate desire to re-fight the 1960s.
 
Sounds like she has a book deal or movie in the works. Basically it is a "she said" with no proof.

Maybe it happened. I think we all know that our politicians are not boy scouts no matter how much it is your fantasy.


The book is more than "in the works." It was released today.

I haven't been following the story at all, but I have no reason to believe she's not telling the truth.
 
So this is supposed to be some shocking revelation? JFK liked to fuck? Clutch your pearls and fall towards the fainting couch. I'll be back with smelling salts.
 
If it were Bush, you would have already been hospitalized with a burned wiener from all of the circle jerks you'd have feverishly attended in response.

You're wrong about that. I could care about a mans sex life, as long as it's legal.
I do however care whether our President is a coward or not. JFK was no coward. GWB was nothing else but.




Comshaw
 
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Opinion
JFK and 19-year-old White House intern Mimi Alford -- a truly shameful revelation



This is a story about a young and impressionable female intern in the White House -- a virgin, with girlish dreams about princes and presidents. Young girls are trained to marry the wealthiest or most powerful man on the block. When the prince comes calling, few young girls can resist this opportunity.

However, they are not the ones who are abusing power and betraying both youth and a wife. That would be the prince or president himself.

And no, I am not talking about Monica Lewinsky in the Clinton White House.

I am talking, sadly, about the recent revelations by a former intern, Mimi Alford, in the Kennedy White House.
Alford is no Marilyn Monroe, who was reputedly the mistress of both John F. and Robert F. Kennedy. Nor, is she Judith Exner, who was reputedly the "Mata Hari" connection between President Kennedy and Sam Giancana, a Mafia operative. These were adult women who chose to use their sexuality to further their careers.

Alford is not in this category. Like then-First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy, Alford attended the prestigious Miss Porter's School in Farmington, Connecticut. She was "wife" material--but President Kennedy treated her in a shameful and inappropriate fashion.

In television interviews, a much older Mimi Alpert now admits that she was not "guilty" about being "overpowered" by a man 25 years her senior. True, he was married, but he was "handsome," and the "president" and she describes him as having expertly maneuvered her into bed. Yes, she could have screamed out but then what?


No access to power, no feeling "special," agonizing embarrassment, no internship.

Girls and women make just such devil's bargains every day. They do not care about the humiliated or left-in-the-dark wife nor do they care about how little they really matter to the Great Man.

In reading Alford's revelations, perhaps the saddest incident concerns the president turning to Alford, a disposable stranger, for sexual comfort after the death of his infant son.

No, he did not break the law.

In fact, it's important to remember that neither Ms. Alford nor Ms. Lewinsky ever alleged sexual harassment or rape. But both young women were manipulated into feeling very, very "special," even important. Neither dared say "no" to their commander-in-chief.

His wife had suffered an emergency Caesarean and the infant boy died two days later. Instead of remaining at his grieving wife's side to comfort her, he turned to his nubile intern for...escape.
Well, maybe an even sadder incident is when Kennedy pimped out Mimi to his aide and friend, Dave Powers--Kennedy watched. (Alford now admits she is ashamed that she went along with this).

And this is corroborated by whom? No one? And where? No place? So it's one person's uncorroborated and unsubstantiated claim of what happened 50 years ago involving a very famous person? Hmmmm.....not knowing the lady making the claim, I'd have to say this is to be taken not with a grain, but a pound of salt.


Comshaw
 
So is this the month we're supposed to be outraged by this stuff?

In January, the month of Newt, we were told that it's not important in the least. It's all so confusing!

Whatever happened to Vette's demands of an in-depth inquiry into whether Obama gave blowjobs in the back of a limo? :)
 
From what little I know of his presidency, I never thought he did much worth adulation. And I agree with Funk; I'm 47 this year and the last time I thought about JFK at all was like six or seven years ago when some of Lady P's family had a gathering and we all went to his library and memorial. And even then, what I found most interesting was his desk with the day's agenda on it. I had always kinda wondered what a president did all day. That's outside of the building itself, which is IM Pei and spectacular.

Also, he holds a special place in the hearts of SF people, because he's the guy who approved the green beret.

Fucked an intern? Yeah, uh huh. He may have been a cipher as a human being. Again, I don't know a lot about him, but I always got the impression that he was a stereotypical child of privilege. And I very much doubt that the whole Camelot thing was going on while he was in office. I suspect that's nostalgia.
 
Like others here have said, find someone under sixty that gives a rats ass about JFK.
 
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