James Freakin' Bond

Dixon Carter Lee

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Saw "Die Another Day", and was impressed. Say what you want about the Bond movies, but they've kept their integrity, and are not coasting on the past. Gone is SMERCH and SPECTRE. The villains now are Media Tycoons and North Korean nationalists. Bond gets the shit beat out of him. His relationship with M is deep. The plots are more complicated than "Mission Impossible". Think how eay it would have have been to just go along blowing shit up. Kudos to the producers for demanding good scripts.

But kudos mostly for the production values, and attention to detail. As absurd as Bond gets (surfing down the tidal wave caused by a calving glacier!) you buy it all because in the background a real world is created. Example: Bond has to meet an old contact in Cuba. The scene could easily have been just shot in an office, but, no, Bond has to first walk through a sweat shop with Cuban women slaving away on sewing machines while a man reads the party newspaper over a microphone -- and none of it had anything to do with the plot, it was only atmosphere. That was an expensive shot, with a lot of set dressing, extras, and research going into it, and it took up about three seconds of screen time. But, and this is what's so impressive, it cemented Bond in a specific time and place that exist in the real (read: "Exotic") world. Do that, put Bond in front of an actual reality, and you are then free to give him an invisible car and make that seem plausible. I appreciate that in a time when Hollywood could give two shits about such subtle nuance in their dramas, much less their action pics.

It's an impressive franchise, well produced, and worth nine bucks. Go see it. Right now. Or I'll have them make another Steven Segal movie.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
Example: a sweat shop with Cuban women slaving away on sewing machines

They were rolling cigars...the center view as he walked across camera from left to right was a woman rolling a cigar on her right upper thigh...he then passed the guy reading the paper into the mic.

A well crafted action pic.

Lance
 
Eh.

The story line was impressive - I'll agree with you there. However, there were just far too many cheesey lines that made me groan.

The one that made me groan the loudest went something like this:

Man: My name is Mr. Kill.

Bond: Now there's a name to die for.

*grrrooooaannn*

That is just one example of something silly they added to the movie that took away more than it added, IMO.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
give him an invisible car and make that seem plausible[/i

Koo-choo, koo-choo. Who's the cleaver boy. Koo-choo, koo-choo. That's right, Dixon. You are three and half.
 
Lancecastor said:
They were rolling cigars...

They looked like sewing machines to me. Are you sure? The cigar thing makes more sense, but, then, you haven't been making much sense about anything lately, so I'm going to stick with the sewing machine thing until you state, unequivocably, and without ambiguity, exactly what kind of cigars they were.

Provide examples.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
They looked like sewing machines to me. Are you sure? The cigar thing makes more sense, but, then, you haven't been making much sense about anything lately, so I'm going to stick with the sewing machine thing until you state, unequivocably, and without ambiguity, exactly what kind of cigars they were.

Provide examples.



Perhaps they were snakes. In the grass.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
They looked like sewing machines to me. Are you sure? The cigar thing makes more sense, but, then, you haven't been making much sense about anything lately, so I'm going to stick with the sewing machine thing until you state, unequivocably, and without ambiguity, exactly what kind of cigars they were.

Provide examples.

After passing the guy on the mic, his escort, the guy at the counter he'd asked for a box of a type of cigar "not produced in 30 years", took him through the factory to the cigar factory owner on a terrace. They shared smokes, talked of the longtime non-pickup of the "cigars" by the Brits from the Cubans...the gun trained on Bond was removed when Bond said the name of the north korean dude.

The thigh shot was fleeting, but sweet.

Hope this helps.

Lance
 
Lancecastor said:
After passing the guy on the mic, his escort, the guy at the counter he'd asked for a box of a type of cigar "not produced in 30 years", took him through the factory to the cigar factory owner on a terrace. They shared smokes, talked of the longtime non-pickup of the "cigars" by the Brits from the Cubans...the gun trained on Bond was removed when Bond said the name of the north korean dude.

The thigh shot was fleeting, but sweet.

Hope this helps.

Lance

I'm sorry, that was too ambiguous. Are you saying it was Blofeld in the Volcano Fortress with the Golden Gun?
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
I'm sorry, that was too ambiguous. Are you saying it was Blofeld in the Volcano Fortress with the Golden Gun?

Oh how I've missed you.
 
When provoked I am a Winchester rifle in the hands of Lucas McCain. Today, though, I'm more of an Indian Burn.

I've gone and swallowed a whole box of metaphors.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
When provoked I am a Winchester rifle in the hands of Lucas McCain. Today, though, I'm more of an Indian Burn.

Okay then, I'm a charlie horse with an option for a Three Stooges eye poke.

(and to think...all this stupidity happened just because I couldn't quell the urge to use the word "blunderbuss"...)
 
Every time I saw the Icarus Device all I could think about was Dr. Evil and the "laser".

Plus the lasers around Halle Berry were funny.

I think of you and PC more as "lasers" than firearms myself.

Deadly funny. Very sharp.

Lance
 
blunderbuss, blunderbuss, blunderbuss!


Fuck...I'm all giddy now. Time for more Thera-Flu.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:

But kudos mostly for the production values, and attention to detail. As absurd as Bond gets (surfing down the tidal wave caused by a calving glacier!) you buy it all because in the background a real world is created. Example: Bond has to meet an old contact in Cuba. The scene could easily have been just shot in an office, but, no, Bond has to first walk through a sweat shop with Cuban women slaving away on sewing machines while a man reads the party newspaper over a microphone -- and none of it had anything to do with the plot, it was only atmosphere. That was an expensive shot, with a lot of set dressing, extras, and research going into it, and it took up about three seconds of screen time. But, and this is what's so impressive, it cemented Bond in a specific time and place that exist in the real (read: "Exotic") world. Do that, put Bond in front of an actual reality, and you are then free to give him an invisible car and make that seem plausible. I appreciate that in a time when Hollywood could give two shits about such subtle nuance in their dramas, much less their action pics.

It's an impressive franchise, well produced, and worth nine bucks. Go see it. Right now. Or I'll have them make another Steven Segal movie.

yes i hear cuban extras are very expensive they get an extra chicken an hour for going into golden time
 
Haven't seen it yet, but I will. I have been a fan of the series since the mid 60's. Loved the spy stuff and the masculine hero that every woman falls for. It was kind of a Walter Middy for me.
 
red_rose said:
Eh.

The story line was impressive - I'll agree with you there. However, there were just far too many cheesey lines that made me groan.

The one that made me groan the loudest went something like this:

Man: My name is Mr. Kill.

Bond: Now there's a name to die for.

*grrrooooaannn*

That is just one example of something silly they added to the movie that took away more than it added, IMO.
There are cheesy puns like that in all Bond movies. It's just something that you get used to.

TB4p
 
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