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BlackShanglan

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I find this sort of thing deeply amusing. Only a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science could possibly imagine that it takes a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science to come to the conclusion that when one is taking a penalty shot in football, the best place for the ball to enter the goal is in the upper corner close to the post. Thank goodness we have "research in physics, biology, computing and psychology" to tell us that; otherwise I would never have thought of selecting the place farthest from the goalie and hardest for him to reach.

But wait! That's not all. We also have the ground-breaking revelation that the direction in which the kicker's kicking foot is pointing just prior to the shot has a relatively high degree of correlation with the eventual direction of the ball.

Oh brave new world, that has such creatures in it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/05/science.football.reut/index.html

Score one for science
Physicist finds top corner is goalkeeper's 'unsaveable zone'


Friday, May 5, 2006; Posted: 7:27 p.m. EDT (23:27 GMT)


LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Ken Bray, a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science, has some advice for any player taking a penalty: Aim for the top corner.

It may sound obvious, but Bray's advice is backed by scientific research that he says can help players in everything from taking free kicks to saving penalties.

"Science is important in terms of winning matches," said Bray, author of a book on the science behind soccer called "How to Score."

Bray has analyzed memorable games over the past 50 years and applied research in physics, biology, computing and psychology to the beautiful game.

Using biomechanics to calculate the absolute reach of a goalkeeper diving to try to save a penalty, Bray has identified an area near the posts and in the top corners where the goalkeeper cannot reach as the "unsaveable zone."

"If a player were to place the ball in those regions, which are 28-30 percent of the goal area, there is not a sniff that the goalkeeper can do to get across to them," explained Bray, from the University of Bath in England.

He advised goalkeepers to move before the kick is taken because if they wait, the ball will be halfway to the goal before they can react.

He said that where the striker places and points his standing foot is a good clue to where the ball will go.

"It's been shown that in about 85 percent of cases the direction in which that foot points is the direction of the shot," he told a news conference in London.
 
BlackShanglan said:
I find this sort of thing deeply amusing. Only a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science could possibly imagine that it takes a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science to come to the conclusion that when one is taking a penalty shot in football, the best place for the ball to enter the goal is in the upper corner close to the post. Thank goodness we have "research in physics, biology, computing and psychology" to tell us that; otherwise I would never have thought of selecting the place farthest from the goalie and hardest for him to reach.

But wait! That's not all. We also have the ground-breaking revelation that the direction in which the kicker's kicking foot is pointing just prior to the shot has a relatively high degree of correlation with the eventual direction of the ball.

Oh brave new world, that has such creatures in it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/05/science.football.reut/index.html

Score one for science
Physicist finds top corner is goalkeeper's 'unsaveable zone'


Friday, May 5, 2006; Posted: 7:27 p.m. EDT (23:27 GMT)


LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Ken Bray, a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science, has some advice for any player taking a penalty: Aim for the top corner.

It may sound obvious, but Bray's advice is backed by scientific research that he says can help players in everything from taking free kicks to saving penalties.

"Science is important in terms of winning matches," said Bray, author of a book on the science behind soccer called "How to Score."

Bray has analyzed memorable games over the past 50 years and applied research in physics, biology, computing and psychology to the beautiful game.

Using biomechanics to calculate the absolute reach of a goalkeeper diving to try to save a penalty, Bray has identified an area near the posts and in the top corners where the goalkeeper cannot reach as the "unsaveable zone."

"If a player were to place the ball in those regions, which are 28-30 percent of the goal area, there is not a sniff that the goalkeeper can do to get across to them," explained Bray, from the University of Bath in England.

He advised goalkeepers to move before the kick is taken because if they wait, the ball will be halfway to the goal before they can react.

He said that where the striker places and points his standing foot is a good clue to where the ball will go.

"It's been shown that in about 85 percent of cases the direction in which that foot points is the direction of the shot," he told a news conference in London.


I wonder if anyone has done a correlation on the incidence of leg and back pain among cameramen at NFL games when one team or the other has a cheerleading squad?

Perhaps they might enlighten us on the probability of more low angle shots when the camera is pointed up slightly?
 
Colleen Thomas said:
I wonder if anyone has done a correlation on the incidence of leg and back pain among cameramen at NFL games when one team or the other has a cheerleading squad?

Perhaps they might enlighten us on the probability of more low angle shots when the camera is pointed up slightly?

:D

Speaking of the NFL - it could take years and require thousands of mainframe hours, but I'm working on a theory that prevailing wind patterns could conceivably affect the trajectory of the ball in a long-distance field goal attempt. Of course, that's just the initial study; I shall have to leave for someone else's life's work the question of whether playing in a domed stadium affects this in any way.

Shanglan
 
BlackShanglan said:
:D

Speaking of the NFL - it could take years and require thousands of mainframe hours, but I'm working on a theory that prevailing wind patterns could conceivably affect the trajectory of the ball in a long-distance field goal attempt. Of course, that's just the initial study; I shall have to leave for someone else's life's work the question of whether playing in a domed stadium affects this in any way.

Shanglan


Witty equine is so sexy!

*swoon*
 
BlackShanglan said:
I find this sort of thing deeply amusing. Only a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science could possibly imagine that it takes a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science to come to the conclusion that when one is taking a penalty shot in football, the best place for the ball to enter the goal is in the upper corner close to the post. Thank goodness we have "research in physics, biology, computing and psychology" to tell us that; otherwise I would never have thought of selecting the place farthest from the goalie and hardest for him to reach.

But wait! That's not all. We also have the ground-breaking revelation that the direction in which the kicker's kicking foot is pointing just prior to the shot has a relatively high degree of correlation with the eventual direction of the ball.

Oh brave new world, that has such creatures in it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/05/science.football.reut/index.html

Score one for science
Physicist finds top corner is goalkeeper's 'unsaveable zone'


Friday, May 5, 2006; Posted: 7:27 p.m. EDT (23:27 GMT)


LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Ken Bray, a theoretical physicist with a doctorate in quantum science, has some advice for any player taking a penalty: Aim for the top corner.

It may sound obvious, but Bray's advice is backed by scientific research that he says can help players in everything from taking free kicks to saving penalties.

"Science is important in terms of winning matches," said Bray, author of a book on the science behind soccer called "How to Score."

Bray has analyzed memorable games over the past 50 years and applied research in physics, biology, computing and psychology to the beautiful game.

Using biomechanics to calculate the absolute reach of a goalkeeper diving to try to save a penalty, Bray has identified an area near the posts and in the top corners where the goalkeeper cannot reach as the "unsaveable zone."

"If a player were to place the ball in those regions, which are 28-30 percent of the goal area, there is not a sniff that the goalkeeper can do to get across to them," explained Bray, from the University of Bath in England.

He advised goalkeepers to move before the kick is taken because if they wait, the ball will be halfway to the goal before they can react.

He said that where the striker places and points his standing foot is a good clue to where the ball will go.

"It's been shown that in about 85 percent of cases the direction in which that foot points is the direction of the shot," he told a news conference in London.
Ain't it amazin' how stupid people can get after they learn a lot of high falootin' gobbledy gook? Hell, I could'a told y'all that shit and what I know from sports you could fit into a thimble right next to what I know about quantum science. *snickering @ the egghead scientist*
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Witty equine is so sexy!

*swoon*

Oh goodness. I'd swoon too, but then I might land on you. I'll settle for gently nuzzling your prostrate and helpless form and seeing where that leads. ;)
 
BlackShanglan said:
Oh goodness. I'd swoon too, but then I might land on you. I'll settle for gently nuzzling your prostrate and helpless form and seeing where that leads. ;)


SHould I get my johopers? ir would you prefer a pony girl this evening?

Hmmm?
 
Tom Collins said:
Mmmmmm...I sooooo agree with you, Colly dear. :kiss:

*uber :kiss:es for Shangy*

:kiss: right back to you, Tom. :)

I have a thimble holster for my knowledge of quantum physics as well, but Colly is doing her best to add to the few atoms of understanding currently rattling around in there. It's awfully kind, but I can't help thinking that, given the extent of her knowledge, it's rather like trying to fit a watermelon in. Still, it's plenty of fun trying. :D
 
Colleen Thomas said:
SHould I get my johopers? ir would you prefer a pony girl this evening?

Hmmm?

Do you do that deliberately to render me speechless, helpless, and utterly incapable of rational thought, or is that effect simply a happy accident? Whole portions of my brain give up all pretense of activity and just ... mmmmmm.
 
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*enters, sees what's going on and turns around, leaving directly*

Football and quantum science. What a deadly combination.
 
This calls to mind two aphorisms of Heinlein's I'm fond of.

"An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing at all."

And…

"Expertise in one field doesn't necessarily mean expertise in another. But experts often seem to think so. And the narrower their field of expertise the more likely they are to think this."

:D
 
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