I've just watched Jessica Lynch's family...
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I missed the newsconference, glad to hear the family is holding up. Her rescue is bittersweet....it's no question a great story she was saved, but there are still others (British and Americans) who are still captured. Perhaps this will give the families of those still POW some form of hope.
She looks like the little girl down the block, I doubt she ever thought she'd see the day when she would be on the front lines of a major war.
She looks like the little girl down the block, I doubt she ever thought she'd see the day when she would be on the front lines of a major war.
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Gord said:
She is a 92A....Logistical Supply Specialist...the same MOS as my wife. 92A's in the 507th mainly issue out new parts to repair vehicles. When my wife was stationed at Ft Bliss, her unit shared a motorpool with the 507th.
My wife knows a couple of the other POW's from the 507th, and was very glad to hear that someone from the 507th was rescued.
It's nice to see a family that's so military oriented like her family appears to be. I'm glad they're holding up well, and glad their daughter is safe.
Edited to add - My wife is a 92A, but she has undergone numerous training exercises that would be tough on anyone. She has participated in several OPFOR exercises at Ft Bliss, several urban warfare exercises at Ft Benning with the Rangers, and a few here at Ft Hood as well. True, a 92A is not a combat MOS, but even 92A's can be trained to handle themselves well.
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I can't help but wonder what the Iraqi soldiers did to her. Sounded like her injuries were pretty bad. Hopefully she can help us document their cruelty.
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Gunner Dailey said:
Yeah that was my thought too. Especially for those execution style killings of POWs. But I don't hold much hope of actually finding the exact soldiers that conducted these acts. And my stomach just gets twisted when I think about possible abuses they could have done to this woman.
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One question I pondered about the situation was how her life in the years that follow this event will transpire. It could go either direction.
She was never really in the military to be a soldier, instead just to get help with education so she could be a teacher. She will likely have permanent emotional scars from the event, and that could lead to her taking a more liberal view of things in the future.
On the other hand, she could tell her story, write a book or whatever, and act as a source of inspiration in promoting the military and the theme that "America doesn't leave it's soldiers behind."
I dunno, should be an interesting side story in years to come.
She was never really in the military to be a soldier, instead just to get help with education so she could be a teacher. She will likely have permanent emotional scars from the event, and that could lead to her taking a more liberal view of things in the future.
On the other hand, she could tell her story, write a book or whatever, and act as a source of inspiration in promoting the military and the theme that "America doesn't leave it's soldiers behind."
I dunno, should be an interesting side story in years to come.
I agree, and glad she got out... hope the others do too, and soon.
I was disappointed though as I said to my GF 'now we are going to hear from her first grade teacher' and seconds later they had her kindergarten teacher on.
I find the Iraqi press breifings almost amusing sometimes, yesterday morning they were playing the 'race card' and by the evening they had to switch tactics to accusing us of religious genocide and calling for 'holy war'. Wonder if they have Johnny Cochran advising them
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Though it's SOP for any American In Crisis nowadays...I still find the idea of the family giving a press conference just fucking bizzarre.
19 years old over being shot up and tortured in a war...I can't think of anything less civilized for a country to put its teenagers through.
Kudos on the extraction....and in the equally classy act of not firing back at shots from mosques today....I think I'd put a stinger through the tower if they did that to me...
19 years old over being shot up and tortured in a war...I can't think of anything less civilized for a country to put its teenagers through.
Kudos on the extraction....and in the equally classy act of not firing back at shots from mosques today....I think I'd put a stinger through the tower if they did that to me...
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Lancecastor said:
I agree. If something ever happened to me and my family gave an interview... I'd ahve to come back kick their asses.
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Lancecastor said:
I'm sure if you looked at what goes on around the world Lance, you could find many things less civilized than the dangers and injuries members of the military face.
I too, think it is great that they didn't return fire at the Mosque. If they did, which they would be right to do, then headlines around the Muslim world would be screaming "War Against Islam."
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I just think of the nightmare of World War II if it would've been fought with today's media. There would've been hundreds of news conferences a day, thousands of embedded reporters everywhere from Tobruk to Leningrad, they would've had to create 8 different news channels that specifically focused on a single theater of operations. The media would've self destructed.
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zipman7 said:
Isn't that what snipers are for?
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I noticed a few posts on this thread refer to her sufferings...
at the hands of the Iraqis.
Aren't you jumping the gun a bit, talking about war crimes, torture and injuries.
Brigadier General Vince Brooks said there was no evidence of torture...
"Brooks said he had no information of torture and Pentagon sources later told NBC News that there was no apparent evidence Lynch had been tortured."
Sometimes we can all get carried away a little too early with what we would like to believe...
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at the hands of the Iraqis.
Aren't you jumping the gun a bit, talking about war crimes, torture and injuries.
Brigadier General Vince Brooks said there was no evidence of torture...
"Brooks said he had no information of torture and Pentagon sources later told NBC News that there was no apparent evidence Lynch had been tortured."
Sometimes we can all get carried away a little too early with what we would like to believe...
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Think of the strength of the Burnhams, the KANSAS couple held hostage by terrorists.
The strength of our people p_p_man. That's why you look like such a damn fool when you question our motives. They are much purer than yours or the French or any of the other 'DonWAVIANS.
The strength of our people p_p_man. That's why you look like such a damn fool when you question our motives. They are much purer than yours or the French or any of the other 'DonWAVIANS.
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Re: I noticed a few posts on this thread refer to her sufferings...
Now the rescuing Marines have said how surprised they were at the good conditions she was being held in...
You really shouldn't believe all that demonisation you know...
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Now the rescuing Marines have said how surprised they were at the good conditions she was being held in...
You really shouldn't believe all that demonisation you know...
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Re: Re: I noticed a few posts on this thread refer to her sufferings...
Yeah, she has two broken legs, a broken arm and at least one gunshot would. She could have been shot in the course of legitimate battle, but the other injuries?
Of course the Iraqis would never torture anyone. Shame on anyone who would think that.
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Yeah, she has two broken legs, a broken arm and at least one gunshot would. She could have been shot in the course of legitimate battle, but the other injuries?
Of course the Iraqis would never torture anyone. Shame on anyone who would think that.
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Come on I think to jump and say she had been tortured is a bit premature - She was also recued from a hospital !! If she was being mistreated I doubt she would be left in a hospital
Ok the Saadam regime does torture people - but lets get the facts before everyone jumps and screams foul.
In the press conference - they were talking about hostage situation etc. She wasnt a hostage , she was a legitamate POW-
I just think that people must be carefull about the language they use - not everyone in Iraq is evil, and the majority of conscripts probably hate Saadam as well - but are just bloody scared that the West is going to abandon them again
Ok the Saadam regime does torture people - but lets get the facts before everyone jumps and screams foul.
In the press conference - they were talking about hostage situation etc. She wasnt a hostage , she was a legitamate POW-
I just think that people must be carefull about the language they use - not everyone in Iraq is evil, and the majority of conscripts probably hate Saadam as well - but are just bloody scared that the West is going to abandon them again
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P. B. Walker said:
I once worked with a woman who was a military wife. She had several (3 or 4) sons, all of whom went into the military as well. She was sweet with a rather quiet demeanor I thought for being the only woman in that kind of household. You just KNEW by knowing her that her entire life was her family. One of her sons (travelling on a military id) was murdered by terrorists aboard a hijacked airline and the whole world watched his body being dumped onto the tarmac. Of course the image was also plastered on the cover of every magazine.
The family's response? The husband/father spoke to reporters briefly at the bottom of the driveway, flanked by his other sons. He thanked everyone for their prayers and support, said they were doing as well as could be expected, and spoke of how proud they were of the deceased son and that no further interviews of family members would take place. You never saw Mom. I really liked that response and thought it a very classy handling of often animalistic media. This family kept the focus on their son and refused to be pulled into the media feeding frenzy trough. Strength is not always loud.
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kept in a hospital or not...
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