It's Oct 1st. Exchanges are open. Let's pause to review another failed RW prediction

[mercury14]

..... that exchanges would not be ready in time. Turns out that they're ready and people are signing up even with a government shutdown. Hmm. Go Kathy.

 

[neci]

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they are working...

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

So it begins.

 

[contrifan32]

But the real question is, how many Lit youngins between 18 and 35 are going sign up. Can we get a show of hands?

 

[contrifan32]

None of you?

 

[RobDownSouth]

But the real question is, how many Lit youngins between 18 and 35 are going sign up. Can we get a show of hands?

I seriously doubt that many folks between 18 and 25 will sign up, since they can be carried on their parents' policies.

 

[contrifan32]

I seriously doubt that many folks between 18 and 25 will sign up, since they can be carried on their parents' policies.

But I thought it is the young and healthy who are going to be paying for us old folks? Without that support how does the system survive financially?

 

[RobDownSouth]

But I thought it is the young and healthy who are going to be paying for us old folks? Without that support how does the system survive financially?

It will, and the actuarial tables reflect it. That's why the Reich-wing is concentrating on the rising cost of insurance policies of healthy 27-year-old males are self-employed and make more than 400% of the federal poverty level.

It's all about ack-cent-chew-ating teh negative.

 

[contrifan32]

It will, and the actuarial tables reflect it. That's why the Reich-wing is concentrating on the rising cost of insurance policies of healthy 27-year-old males are self-employed and make more than 400% of the federal poverty level.

It's all about ack-cent-chew-ating teh negative.

Can you explain to me how that works without the political dogma?

 

[CandiCame]

But the real question is, how many Lit youngins between 18 and 35 are going sign up. Can we get a show of hands?

We're auto-enrolled unless we opt out. We automatically go into the silver plan.

 

[tactful]

Choose wisely.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Can you explain to me how that works without the political dogma?

Requiring everyone 27 to 65 carry their own insurance greatly expands the risk pool, and the healthy populace subsidizes the relatively fewer sicker populace.

The cost burden for the population as a whole decreases on a per-person basis.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Its a tax on peasants and self employed, its not the savior of Medicaid/Medicare. Its bonus money and pay raises and fat contracts for the well connected.

 

[phrodeau]

But I thought it is the young and healthy who are going to be paying for us old folks? Without that support how does the system survive financially?

Those under 26 can be on their parent's policies, so the payment is being made.

 

[contrifan32]

Requiring everyone 27 to 65 carry their own insurance greatly expands the risk pool, and the healthy populace subsidizes the relatively fewer sicker populace.

The cost burden for the population as a whole decreases on a per-person basis.

So its sort of like selling Avon?

 

[RobDownSouth]

So its sort of like selling Avon?

Wouldn't know, I've never sold Avon or known anyone who sold Avon.

 

[contrifan32]

Those under 26 can be on their parent's policies, so the payment is being made.

So its those of us that have kids that will really be towing the financial burden of this system?

 

[JohnnySavage]

So its those of us that have kids that will really be towing the financial burden of this system?

A typical hospital eats about 20% of their costs due to bad debt. They make that up by charging those with insurance more to cover the loss.

Isn't that a de facto tax on those leaching off their employer that provides (or subsidizes) their insurance?

Isn't it better to make everyone pay for their own?

 

[remy_lebeau8]

I seriously doubt that many folks between 18 and 25 will sign up, since they can be carried on their parents' policies.

I'm 25 and have a nice policy through work. I don't think obamacare will affect it until the new year. Contracts and such

 

[CandiCame]

I'm 25 and have a nice policy through work. I don't think obamacare will affect it until the new year. Contracts and such

Were you the one who used to have Humana and traded up, Remy? If so, congratulations!

 

[jeninflorida]

You welfare-tards are on fire!

 

[RobDownSouth]

So its those of us that have kids that will really be towing the financial burden of this system?

Just those folks who love their kids.

There's no requirement that parents be forced to carry their 18-25 year old children on their policies. This is a splendid opportunity to "teach them a lesson", if you were so inclined.

 

[Wok]

..... that exchanges would not be ready in time. Turns out that they're ready and people are signing up even with a government shutdown. Hmm. Go Kathy.

Servers are overloaded this morning.

 

[sufisaint]

A typical hospital eats about 20% of their costs due to bad debt. They make that up by charging those with insurance more to cover the loss.

Isn't that a de facto tax on those leaching off their employer that provides (or subsidizes) their insurance?

Isn't it better to make everyone pay for their own?

Its a number game when you basically get charged 20 dollars for two aspirin that were bought for 30 cents... eating 20% of 300% mark up is a good deal.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Its a number game when you basically get charged 20 dollars for two aspirin that were bought for 30 cents... eating 20% of 300% mark up is a good deal.

Hospitals have to make up costs to pay for those patients without insurance. With fewer patients without insurance, these costs will go down.