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NCAA: Oklahoma must forfeit 2005 season
By MURRAY EVANS, Associated Press Writer
July 11, 2007

Oklahoma must erase its wins from the 2005 football season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years, the NCAA said Wednesday.

The penalties stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team last August for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership. The NCAA said Oklahoma was guilty of a "failure to monitor" the employment of the players.

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Oklahoma President David Boren said the university will appeal the NCAA's "failure to monitor" finding and the ruling that Oklahoma must erase the wins from the 2005 season. Oklahoma has 15 days to notify the NCAA in writing of any such appeal.

The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be erased, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the erased wins, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-19.

Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010.

Those sanctions are in addition to those already self-imposed by Oklahoma, which has banned athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university's athletics program until at least August 2011.

Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall. The Sooners also dismissed Bomar, Quinn and walk-on Jermaine Hardison from the team.

Paul Dee, the athletic director at Miami and the interim chairman of the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions, said Oklahoma will be allowed to keep the money it received for playing in the 2005 Holiday Bowl, because the NCAA does not regulate bowl games.

"Although this case centered on a few violations involving three student-athletes, the committee finds this case to be significant and serious for several reasons," the NCAA report said, noting the length of time of the violations and the fact that Oklahoma had appeared before the committee in April 2006 regarding violations in its men's basketball program.

On Aug. 3 — the day before the Sooners began preseason practice — Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports.

That led to an NCAA investigation, which found that Bomar, Quinn and Hardison had been paid for time they did not work at the car dealership and that Hardison received payment for time he spent participating in a scrimmage and spring game.

The players and McRae engaged "in a deliberate scheme to deceive both the employer's payroll system and the university's employment monitoring system in an attempt to violate NCAA rules of which they were real aware," the report stated.

The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations.

During the investigation, the university disputed that allegation, arguing that the NCAA should applaud, not penalize, its efforts to root out violations and noted that NCAA president Myles Brand told one news outlet that the university "acted with integrity in taking swift and decisive action" in the case.

Dee said Wednesday that Oklahoma should be praised for quickly dismissing the players from the team, calling that action "very influential on the committee."

Still, the committee said that Oklahoma should have undertaken more extensive efforts to monitor the players' employment, because the dealership apparently was the largest employer of Oklahoma athletes.

Boren disagreed, saying in a statement that "any mistakes made by the athletic department compliance staff while monitoring would not have prevented the intentional wrongdoing by the student athletes and the employer involved."

Stoops said he "strongly supported" Boren's decision to appeal.

"Our current team is focused on the upcoming season," Stoops said. "The university is dealing with a matter that relates to the 2005 season. This group of players and those that will join our program later have no reason to be concerned about our goals or the direction of our program. Those things remain unchanged."

Both Bomar and Quinn lost a season of eligibility. Bomar has been ordered by the NCAA to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100. Both players transferred to Division I-AA schools — Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana — where they can resume their careers this season.

Through Sam Houston State athletic department spokesman Paul Ridings, Bomar declined comment Wednesday.

Oklahoma officials also appeared before the Committee on Infractions in April 2006 following an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson's staff.

Oklahoma escaped major sanctions in that case, as the infractions committee also found the university guilty of a "failure to monitor," a less severe ruling than "lack of institutional control," which had been recommended by the NCAA's enforcement staff.

The committee mostly accepted the university's self-imposed sanctions, which included reductions in scholarships, recruiting calls and trips and visits to the school by prospective recruits.

Updated on Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 5:28 pm EDT
 
Pink, can you break it down some? I don't quite understand why they have to erase their wins for an entire season and lose 2 scholarships.

This over two players that they didn't monitor?
 
Morcheeba said:
Pink, can you break it down some? I don't quite understand why they have to erase their wins for an entire season and lose 2 scholarships.

This over two players that they didn't monitor?


Basically, i think that's it.

The penalties stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team last August for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership. The NCAA said Oklahoma was guilty of a "failure to monitor" the employment of the players.

The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations.
 
Well, that's utter B.S..

I hope they appeal before their deadline.

*glad to see you making a football news thread as it's never too early ;)
 
Morcheeba said:
Well, that's utter B.S..

I hope they appeal before their deadline.

*glad to see you making a football news thread as it's never too early ;)


They are appealing.


i know, i can't wait. *holds back squeal so i won't look like such a damn dork*
 
Bah, I was hoping this was about football. Not american football!

Still, nevermind, only 25 days to go until the charity shield commences. Chelsea -v- Manchester United, and in the meantime, my beloved blues are touring california.

Anyone in the LA area who is going to any of the exhibition matches against Chelsea, take some friends, watch and enjoy, this team is going to be stunning the rest of the world next season.

Oh, and good luck in your teams American Football results :) Apologies for the minor non-hijack but diversion ;)
 
shoulderblade said:
So how does this rate as a penalty? Make them forget they won?
It's not a penalty. A penalty would be losing scholarships and handing back the bowl money they garnered.
 
What do you all think about hunky Brian Urlacher of the Chicago Bears going all 'Alec Baldwin' to the mother of his son?

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/463240,CST-NWS-urlacher11.article

Here are some of the nasty things he 'supposedly' texted her:

In court documents filed Friday, Tyna Robertson alleges that her son's father, Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher, sent her text messages, including:

Jan. 1, 1:57 p.m.: "I haven't even left you tell them to turn around"

Jan. 17, 6:17 p.m.: "Go to hell you f- - - - - - - - - - I was sick"

Jan. 23, 8:51 p.m.: "F - - - You"

Jan. 25, 6:59 p.m.: "Im def going to the super bowl so get them pulled whats the big deak"

Jan. 25, 7:08 p.m.: "Shut up you're an idiot ill do it myself next he comes to stay with me"

Feb. 2, 12:28 p.m.: "You're a f - - - - - - fruit cake why the hell would you come down here you know im busy you always gotta be in the middle of s - - -"

Feb. 12, 3:05 p.m.: "Im not sure yet but it will be this weekend"

Feb. 14, 3:52 p.m.: "Your f - - - - - - nuts I just got done with a long season of work you wouldn't know what that's like so Im taking some time off"

Feb. 19, 8:59 a.m.: "Go to hell Ill be there when I get there"

Feb. 21, 4:05 p.m.: "That's not a favor we agreed on 7 and your not even out of town jack ass"

Feb. 21, 4:22 p.m.: "You are one jealous b - - - - quit threatening me you got no pull in court"

Feb. 21, 11:23 p.m.: "Fyi: F - - - you

Feb. 22, 4:54 p.m.: "maybe Sunday night before I leave down again and I can see him when you I get back"

Feb. 24, 11:55 a.m.: "Ok then don't meet me Ill see him I get back thanks"

Feb. 24, 2:40 p.m.: "Beat it no more of my time will be wasted on your skanky ass"

Feb. 26, 10:59 a.m.: "Your an idiot"

March 6, 11:24 a.m.: "You are one jealous b - - - - leave for what"

March 11, 9:12 p.m.: "Your raising a little p - - - y let him live with me it would be much better for him then you could do whatever the f - - - you want"

March 13, 5:59 p.m.: "F - - - off hooker I don't have time for you"

March 13, 6:01 p.m.: "That right b - - - -"

March 29, 7:23 p.m.: "Ill pick him up there im on my way unless you wanna meet me [somewhere] on the way"

March 31, 10:33 a.m.: "I cant get him a ticket this late"

April 14, 8 p.m.: "Just landed bout to be on the way"

April 28, 11:28 a.m.: "Shut up don't try to turn this around don't worry bout the judge the next one wont like you either"

April 29, 10:13 a.m.: "Then you find a way to do what your suppose to make one of your pimps drive you around"

May 18, 7:14 p.m.: "Quit threatening me with that spiritual bull s - - - ill be in Hinsdale at 2 tomorrow."

May 21, 1:49 p.m.: "according to you everyone is racist cuz they don't like you need to grow the f - - - up and quit praying and get a job."

June 2, 11:22 a.m.: "Funny stuff you can bring him to my house so I can spend more time if not leave me alone."


http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/Whats_Hot_Page/NFL/Achievements/Images/Brian_Urlacher.JPG

I really like Urlacher so it sucks to read how he talks like a hostile Literotica member. In fact, I'm shocked at his vile potty mouth. Even if he hates her, there's no excuse to text stupid shit like that.
 
Morcheeba said:
I really like Urlacher so it sucks to read how he talks like a hostile Literotica member. In fact, I'm shocked at his vile potty mouth. Even if he hates her, there's no excuse to text stupid shit like that.
Just like Baldwin, I don't think it's any of our business.

Since his are public, I would like to see them in context with what she sent him.


I didn't care for this: "Your raising a little p - - - y....." Give momma all the hell you want, but don't put your own kid down like that.
 
MakersandIce said:
Just like Baldwin, I don't think it's any of our business.

Since his are public, I would like to see them in context with what she sent him.


I didn't care for this: "Your raising a little p - - - y....." Give momma all the hell you want, but don't put your own kid down like that.

Yeah. I hear ya, it's really not any of our business. At the same time, he's what many young boys look up to.

I disagree with your "give momma all the hell you want" cuz the best thing a father can do for his children is to love their mother. If she's a skank, golddigger.. so be it. He stuck his dick inside her and created a child with her. No reason to be so hostile and immature. I thought he had more smarts about him. Guess not.

If United Way makes another commercial about him doing so much for children, well, his verbal abuse to his wife and calling his own son a pussy will be on the back of my mind.
 
I wonder what this punishment means in terms of what happens to Southern Cal as it regards Reggie Bush? What Bush hauled in makes those Oklahoma players look like pikers.
 
She sounds like a real winner

That's why gold digger doesn't add up'
I refused cash for abortion, says mom of Urlacher's son

October 29, 2006
BY MARK J. KONKOL AND STEVE WARMBIR Staff Reporters

There are two images of Tyna Robertson.

The devoted, churchgoing mother.

And the conniving extorter of wealthy, gullible men, according to court papers.



A stunning ex-stripper from Joliet, Robertson insists she's not a gold digger -- only a struggling, misunderstood woman faced with raising her infant son on her own.

A Chicago Sun-Times review of hundreds of pages of court documents, however, paints a different tale of Tyna.

Robertson is dogged by years of allegations that she shakes men down for money.

She has had a long list of boyfriends, including boxer Andrew Golata, "Lord of the Dance" star Michael Flatley, several professional ballplayers, even a cabinetmaker and a physical therapist. She speaks Spanish and Polish.

Flatley is suing her and an attorney for $100 million for allegedly making a false allegation that Flatley raped Robertson in Las Vegas. Robertson insists she was raped and wasn't involved in any extortion. Her $35 million lawsuit against Flatley was tossed out of court.

These days, she's best known as the mother of Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher's 17-month-old boy, Kennedy.

Robertson says Urlacher never wanted to have the child. In fact, she told the Sun-Times that she turned down a six-figure offer to have an abortion when she was two months pregnant.

"That's why gold digger doesn't add up. If I just wanted money, I could have aborted the baby," she said.

Her powerhouse family-law attorney, Steve Lake, said: "I don't see her as someone who had a baby to extort money."

Robertson claims that the abortion allegation prompted a settlement in their bitter custody fight.

"They didn't really want anyone to know about that," she said.

Bears officials said Urlacher told them there is "absolutely no truth to it."

'I must be easy on the eyes'
Urlacher's attorney Donald Schiller denied the allegation, saying, "When weighing the truthfulness of her quotes, just look at the source."

Robertson grew up in working-class Joliet, a far cry from the lure of luxury along Rush Street, where she's well-known.

"I must be easy on the eyes," she says, explaining why famous men have courted her. "A lot of professional athletes ask me out, and I've turned them down."

For years, Robertson has had a taste for the good life while struggling financially.

She filed for bankruptcy in 1998, listing a 1998 Corvette valued at $35,000 as a top asset.

The year before, she made $12,000. She listed her occupation as "Sales/Entertainer" but was unemployed then.

She owed thousands of dollars to high-end department stores, including Neiman Marcus, and thousands more to casinos. She admits battling a gambling problem.

"Obviously, I'm not a good gambler," she said.

In a recent court affidavit, Robertson reported similar money woes. She reported about $12,270 a month in expenses -- including $3,000 for a nanny, $2,000 in clothes, $600 for clubs and entertaining, $1,300 for vacations and $500 in children's entertainment. She makes $500 a month.

In the past, to make money, Robertson worked as an exotic dancer at Thee Doll House in Stone Park.

"I'm not proud of it. I wasn't even a good dancer," she said.

The late, renowned private investigator Ernie Rizzo said in an interview before he died that Robertson graduated from stripper to parasite of the rich and famous. Rizzo had investigated Robertson extensively for a client he declined to name.

Robertson disputes Rizzo's conclusion, saying, "It's not in my heart to take advantage of anyone."

Robertson often finds herself in courthouses, whether she's suing someone or getting sued. She's had tiffs with her hairdresser, business partners and even the men she paid to paint her Dodge Viper.

A married west suburban millionaire clashed with Robertson in court.

Sued by businessman
Robertson told the Sun-Times she and the man were just business partners. But another source familiar with the matter said the two were romantically linked.

At first, records show, they appeared to be getting along, buying a Mitsubishi and a house together in west suburban Naperville in 1999.

Soon, the relationship soured.

The businessman sued Robertson in 2001 for $463,149 that she charged on a corporate credit card he had given her, records show. Most of it was gambling debt.

The businessman also got an order of protection against Robertson, ordering her away from his family and business.

The matter was settled out of court, with the businessman eating much of the charges, a source said.

Dancer countersues
Robertson got her first taste of national exposure when she alleged in 2003 that star Irish dancer Michael Flatley raped her in a Las Vegas hotel the year before. Flatley said the sex was consensual.

That lawsuit was tossed out, and Flatley countersued her and the lawyer representing her for $100 million for civil extortion and defamation. The lawsuit is pending. Robertson said she had nothing to do with any extortion alleged in the complaint.

Flatley contends Robertson "had followed a pattern and practice of extorting money and other financial benefits from men."

Flatley suggests Robertson was lining up witnesses even before they went to bed.

The two ate dinner at Lutece Restaurant, where Robertson ordered chocolate cake to come before her dinner and later made a fuss -- all to make sure the waiter remembered her and who she was dining with, Flatley alleges.

Robertson later noted the name of the hotel employee who showed her to Flatley's suite, Flatley alleges.

'Mr. Suave, he's not'
As for Urlacher, Robertson met him at a Chicago nightclub, where they hit it off and talked all night long.

"He was nervous and shy and everything. Mr. Suave he's not," she said.

They dated for a bit, but Robertson had her eye on someone else.

"I told Brian to kick rocks," she said. "Then I found out I was pregnant."

Robertson said when she broke the news to Urlacher, he asked her to have an abortion. When she refused, Urlacher asked her to move out of state, according to a court filing that includes a series of text messages that Urlacher -- who has two daughters -- allegedly sent to Robertson.

One message allegedly sent on Nov. 10, 2004, reads: "UR right I don't want anymore kids and its 2 bad U want 2 bring a child into this situation when it could B avoided," court records show.

Their son was born May 20, 2005, but Urlacher did not meet him until July 22 and only spent 15 minutes with the boy on that day, according to court documents.

But in September 2005, Urlacher sought to establish paternity and seek full custody of the boy, whom he proudly included in his Bears media guide biography. Through a Bears spokesman, Urlacher declined a request for an interview.

Despite the venomous court battle between them, Robertson says she still has a soft spot for Urlacher.

They flirted a bit and "played footsies under the table" during a sit-down with their child custody attorneys, she said.

She said she wants to make sure Kennedy has a good life and is putting her trust in God.

Her son "is like Bamm-Bamm from the Flintstones. If he picks up the couch some day it will not surprise me," she said. "He definitely is Brian's son."

"If it wasn't for God, I never would have made it through this. I go to church six to seven times a week for morning prayer. That's why I'm not angry at Brian," she said.

Robertson says she's not sure if they'll ever get back together. Still, she was interested in whether Urlacher was with an old flame, Paris Hilton, when Hilton was in town a few days ago.

In a text message to a reporter at 11:35 p.m. Thursday, Robertson asked, "Paris Hilton is in town are they together?"

mkonkol@suntimes.com

swarmbir@suntimes.com
 
Morcheeba said:
At the same time, he's what many young boys look up to.
They need to look up to him only for his football abilities........nothing else. They need to look up to their own father/older sibling/uncle/gramps/etc for the proper way to be a man.
 
MakersandIce said:
They need to look up to him only for his football abilities........nothing else. They need to look up to their own father/older sibling/uncle/gramps/etc for the proper way to be a man.

Way to kill this thread last night.

He's Brian Urlacher.

Any Chi-Town kid raised by football loving parents knows him, looks forward to him each Sunday during regular season, at the SUPER BOWL - basically, he's the Peyton on the Bear's team.

United Way commercials aside, you think even those football-hungry kids with no father figures in their lives should divorce all the nasty stuff such a role model says about his own kid and move on to say, Uncle Crackhead Joe for guidance?

Then the hell with United Way and any Brian Urlacher involvements.
 
Morcheeba said:
Way to kill this thread last night.

He's Brian Urlacher.

Any Chi-Town kid raised by football loving parents knows him, looks forward to him each Sunday during regular season, at the SUPER BOWL - basically, he's the Peyton on the Bear's team.

United Way commercials aside, you think even those football-hungry kids with no father figures in their lives should divorce all the nasty stuff such a role model says about his own kid and move on to say, Uncle Crackhead Joe for guidance?

Then the hell with United Way and any Brian Urlacher involvements.


I don't think athletes and Hollywood actors/actresses should be blindly worshipped as role models. Respected for their talents--yes, respected for their community involvement--yes, but an image of someone transmitted over the airvaves or through fiber optic cables can't give the proper guidance that a "role model" should provide.

For his thoughts on the subject, Charles Barkley is my role model.
 
i doubt he'll be in any United Way commercials anymore but i doubt it will hurt his standing with the fans. Calling his kid a pussy was not the smartest thing to do, obviously but this woman appears to not have the world's greatest rep. Lots of men out there know what it's like to have a hellish ex to deal with.
 
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