It's not Incest

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Okay, I know this is being picky, but I can't help it. A story is NOT an incest story if it involves brother-in-laws, sister-in-laws, mother-in-laws or father-in-laws having sex with you. If you're a blood relative and are having sex with your mom, dad, sister, brother, uncle or aunt. That's incest. I know it's nit picking and has probably been covered before but just had to get it off my chest. Sorry.
 
Hamlet considered his mother marrying her dead husband's brother to be incest because at the time she married the one, she automatically became sister to the other (we'll leave out the poor Danish prince's first schizophrenic break).

But some societies feel that it's a man's duty to marry his brother's widow (or impregnate her, of which the failure to do so was Onan's real sin).

Guess it works both ways ;)

Sabledrake
 
when is morality moral?

Because the web is world wide and the contributors to literotica are international, quite a lot of fetish fantasies (or perversions) will not be abnormal in some part of the world or other.

Incest in America includes cousins, in Britain it doesn't, as I understand it, in some countries (some us states?) it is legal to marry at 14 years old, in many other countries it is considered to be paedophilia.

The above is one case where I have changed the age of one of my protagonists only because the accepted age of consent appears to be 18 in the US whereas it is 16 in the UK.

At times stories I read suddenly contain fetish which doesn't turn me on in the least. The urilagnia in the Coronation Street fantasies by cargy1uk. Now that I've looked at that again I've just realised it also contains 'Statutory Rape' as one of the characters is 14/15.

So sometimes it's cultural, sometimes it's inadvertant and sometimes it's purely technical.

One mans' meat... as they say (ooer)
 
Hello picky one, :)

Yes, that's an interesting point.

I can't abide incest stories, however I respect that everyone's tastes are different. (I'm right into bdsm, which isn't for everyone either.) If I came across a story like you mentioned, involving in-laws, I would not find it offensive at all.


So from my point of view, I agree it's not incest.

Have a great day now,

Alex (female)
 
Ha! I agree entirely. I click on a promising title hoping it'll be something juicy, and it's in-laws or cousins. So I go away. Honestly, it might as well be with the next-door neighbour or the milkman.

The idea that in-laws count is from the Christian notion that man and woman become one flesh; therefore your spouse's sibling becomes your sibling, as far as degree of relationship goes, and so on.

In Britain in the early 1900s there was much controversy over the Deceased Wife's Sister Act, I think, which legalized marriage to a sister-in-law.

I'm not really a pervert, I just like sibling lust.
 
The way I view it, in-laws are related by law (or marriage). There is no "blood" relationship typically (there are some scenarios like twins marrying twins of course).

Looking at another situation, an uncle or aunt that is not related by "blood" but by marriage to their spouse (mother's sister's husband as an example) is related by law (or marriage) as well.

So is sex with your mother's sister's husband (your uncle) considered incest?
 
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I'm my own Grandpa, come on, sing it everybody!

The way I define incest, is having relations with your immediate blood relatives. I just don't count in-laws as blood relatives. I do like the differing viewpoints and laws though. The more we know, the less ignorant we are.
 
I simply can’t understand incest with close family members. I am not particularly hostile toward it, but I am extremely hostile when that incest becomes molestation. Someone very close to me experienced incestuous molestation as a child, and that has turned her very much against even mention of the word. Obviously, we stay well away from any story with the word incest even close to it.

In-laws and steps are another matter. Personally, if I grew up with an in-law or a step, then I would see little difference in them and a close blood relative. However, if there is no previously established familial relationship – Well then, the door’s wide open!
 
Incest Vs. Molestation

I agree. Molestation is molestation regardless of relation. I believe most of us are talking about consenting adults (or near adults, I mean a 16 year old can be tried for murder as an adult but isn't considered an adult where sex is concerned? Seems like a doulbe standard to me) Anyway, I'm still sticking to the point that incest is sex between blood relatives. Uncles and aunts are blood relatives. Uncle in-laws and aunt in-laws are not. Maybe legally, but not true blood relatives. After all, you'd be able to marry an uncle or aunt in-law but I don't think you can marry your aunt or uncle. Of course, that my depend on the state laws, etc. I could marry my sis in-law but not my sister.
 
Incest and molestation are two very different things. "Informed consent" plays a major role in the difference between the two. I'm not going to debate the issue of whether incest between consenting "adults" is harmful or not.

Molestation is always harmful. Molestation is not limited to children either. Individuals with disabilities of all kinds are potential victims along with children. Elderly adults are often victimized. When someone is unable to give their "informed consent", then it is always wrong.
 
Most people understand the differences between incest and molestation. Unfortunately, when a close and authoritan family member is involved, the lines become blurred for the victim. Emotional pain has a way of clouding our tolerance.
 
I agree completely. I can't think of anything more harmful to a child than for a family member to molest/rape them. Children expect their "family" to protect them. When a family member does them harm, it will definately affect them emotionally and mentally for the remainder of their life. This happens with sexual abuse at any age, but is most harmful to a child whose perceptions of the world are just being shaped. It's not limited to sexual abuse either. Parents or other family members that beat their children do very similar harm to a child's mental and emotional health. The same occurs with adults as well that abuse their spouse or "significant other".

Children are priceless. To harm even one is a tragedy for the world. Children are our future. Children will one day grow up to become our leaders. Children will one day grow up to become mothers and fathers. Children will one day grow up to become doctors and nurses. Children will one day grow up to be murders, rapists, and/or any number of other criminal types. For the most part, what they turn out to be is up to the adults that nurture them.

I sincerely hope your friend has learned how to deal with the crime committed against him/her. I know as a coed how rape can dramatically shape a person's life. I don't know of any crime short of death that can be so horrific to the victim. So much is taken from a victim by a rapist. Molestation is rape as far as I am concerned.
 
Incest?

Nit is technically correct in the U.S. Even relations between a stepparent and the spouse's child(ren) isn't "technically" incest.

But I was looking at the Top List here today and, after reading the two most often read stories and finding them to both be incest stories, I scanned the next 98. Of the first 100 stories on the most read list, 80% of them are incest stories! Hmmm... I wonder what that means, exactly about all of us folks here?
 
i not agree with that ,Incest is sex between mothers &son,or father &daughter.
 
I'm sorry, but I sort of resent "unregistered" posts. If somebody wants to participate in a discussion, I think the Moderators should require them to register, so that folks can reply to them. How does anybody else feel?
 
Nit Picking? said:
Okay, I know this is being picky, but I can't help it. A story is NOT an incest story if it involves brother-in-laws, sister-in-laws, mother-in-laws or father-in-laws having sex with you. If you're a blood relative and are having sex with your mom, dad, sister, brother, uncle or aunt. That's incest. I know it's nit picking and has probably been covered before but just had to get it off my chest. Sorry.

Stepfather and stepmother is incest also
 
Re: when is morality moral?

gauchecritic said:
Because the web is world wide and the contributors to literotica are international, quite a lot of fetish fantasies (or perversions) will not be abnormal in some part of the world or other.

Incest in America includes cousins,

I live in a southern US state and cousins are premitted to marry.

as I understand it, in some countries (some us states?) it is legal to marry at 14 years old,
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Here you could have married a 14 y/o up to about 6 years ago. Now you have to wait until she is 16. (Woop-de-do)

Maybe we should just come up with our own laws for incest on Lit.
 
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