Issues of ignorance: sex reassignment and transgender

[Stella_Omega]

Oh, I know lots of stuff. But when you say "Oh, you know..." and leave it at that, I have no ides which of the stuff aplenty you are thinking of right then. Because there's not one aspect, as well you know. There are hundreds.

Lots to chew on in the rest of your reply. I'll be back.

yeah, there are hundreds of aspects. It's upsetting when someone-- especially someone as knowledgeable as you are-- asks me to 'enlighten' them.

So yeah... You cling to what little you can. I don't have a "home" or "family" now except for the one I've made here with Amy, my children and a few "like minded" friends. After a point, you get WAY defensive when somebody, whom you thought you could rely upon, "wavers"...

Liar: I'm not saying they were right, but I sure can understand how they felt... It's hard to be accepting when you have people spitting on and calling you names every day.

exactly; it isn't right, but it's sadly understandable.

I often meet lesbians who don't trust me because I am bi. I don't blame them, although I wish I could-- I wish it weren't a matter of self-preservation for each and every one of us who are not straight in one way or another.

Oh and I was just now talking with a very young man who said the same thing you did, Liar-- that he hated being around the gay community and was more comfortable with his hetero friends.

 

[3113]

yeah, there are hundreds of aspects. It's upsetting when someone-- especially someone as knowledgeable as you are-- asks me to 'enlighten' them.

Now Stella, come on. It's equally upsetting when people give others the run-around, claiming they ought to know something, and if they don't you're not going to tell them. Why not? Even if they should know and don't, why not say? And if they do know, and haven't thought of it, again, why not remind them? Especially if they're asking for clarification. Especially in an online conversation which has many people reading it, and maybe wondering the same.

My assumption is that only good can come of enlightening someone on anything, and it's extra good if it's in a place where you can enlighten many along with the one

 

[Stella_Omega]

Which is why I went ahead, marshalled my thoughts, and explained -- one or two of the hundreds of aspects.

It's still upsetting. Sometimes enraging, sometimes saddening. We have these emotions that go along with all the rest of it, you see. You talk about something, it reminds you of the way you feel. Again. It's nice sometimes, to not have to rehearse this stuff.

But- we explain, on request or demand. Over and over. And over.

Sort of like Chaz Bono.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Until we get over this remnant of the XIV Century and develop a more Classical Era attitude towards sexuality, we're in the position of being in high school all over again where any deviance from the norm of The Beautiful People, of whichever group they may belong to, is a threat to Them. Any organism, when it feels threatened, is likely to do what it believes is a counter attack. The inferred threat can be as petty a thing as a refusal to wear button-down shirts or as traumatically drastic the feeling of being e a stranger in one's own body. Those who are different from 'us' are not attacking us until they actually attack. Just being different will eventually be accepted by the rest of the self-identified in-groups but damnation, it's taking a long time!

 

[CharleyH]

It's still upsetting. Sometimes enraging, sometimes saddening. We have these emotions that go along with all the rest of it, you see. You talk about something, it reminds you of the way you feel. Again. It's nice sometimes, to not have to rehearse this stuff.

But- we explain, on request or demand. Over and over. And over.

Sort of like Chaz Bono.

I am just sort of going on a tangent ... my post has nothing to do with Stella's, I just wanted to throw a smile and a kiss her way.

I remember a point in time when I could not understand why any woman would want to be with a butch lesbian. It repulsed me. I didn't get it. Defining myself as bi-natured, I simply felt, why not just get with a man? It took knowing a very good lesbian friend to figure out how closed and narrow minded I was (I was young - this was 20 years ago). She was a very high-class, fru-fru type and very, very hot). Time and again we would go out to lesbian clubs. Time and again, I picked up and she did not, although not because no one hit on her, it's just that not the right woman for her hit on her. She dated lots of lesbians, but never happy. After a few years, she shocked me. I had been staying at her home in transition and she brought home a man - I mean Alpha masculine, top, man all the way. Her love of dykes suddenly dawned on me. "She had different desires than I did," and that was cool. I only recount this story to press home that ignorance does sometimes have a lot to to with youth. Not always, but sometimes.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

VM

The fly in your ointment is you wanna be the one to decide what is and isnt okay. Youre hot for the kink you like, and not so hot for what others want.

Dear Reader,

VM is a pussy boy who does what Stella wants, so he wont read this post, but you can, and then laugh at him for the hypocrit he is.