Is this Voter Fraud, too? (yeah, yeah, political)

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Since ACORN has been arguably used to argue that there's voter fraud, will this be pointed out as well?
Dozens of newly minted Republican voters say they were duped into joining the party by a GOP contractor with a trail of fraud complaints stretching across the country. Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.

"I am not a Republican," insisted Karen Ashcraft, 47, a pet-clinic manager and former Democrat from Ventura who said she was duped by a signature gatherer into joining the GOP. "I certainly . . . won't sign anything in front of a grocery store ever again." It is a bait-and-switch scheme familiar to election experts. The firm hired by the California Republican Party -- a small company called Young Political Majors, or YPM, which operates in several states -- has been accused of using the tactic across the country.

Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights lawsuit. Prosecutors in Los Angeles and Ventura counties say they are investigating complaints about the company. The firm, which a Republican Party spokesman said is paid $7 to $12 for each registration it secures, has denied any wrongdoing and says it has never been charged with a crime....

Some also report having their registration status changed to absentee without their permission; if they show up at the polls without a ballot they may be unable to vote. The Times randomly interviewed 46 of the hundreds of voters whose election records show they were recently re-registered as Republicans by YPM, and 37 of them -- more than 80% -- said that they were misled into making the change or that it was done without their knowledge. Lydia Laws, a Palm Springs retiree, said she was angry to find recently that her registration had been switched from Democrat to Republican. Laws said the YPM staffer who instructed her to identify herself on a petition as a Republican assured her that it was a formality, and that her registration would not be changed. Later, a card showed up in the mail saying she had joined the GOP.

"I said, 'No, no, no. That's not right,' " Laws said. It all sounds familiar to Beverly Hill, a Democrat and the former election supervisor in Florida's Alachua County. About 200 voters -- mostly college students -- were unwittingly registered as Republicans there in 2004 by YPM staffers using the same tactic, Hill said. "It is just incredible that this can keep happening election after election," she said.

...Jose Aguilera, a 48-year-old math teacher from Ventura whose registration was recently changed from Democrat to Republican, said he signed the child-molester petition outside an Albertsons supermarket. He said he was asked to sign a second document but not told that it would change his registration. "Somehow the guy pulled out something else and I signed it," he said.
Full story here. Let this be a lesson to you people...don't sign anything in front of a grocery store! And don't ever fall for that "it's just a formality" line.

Not that this stops them from voting in the election--unless they were listed absentee! In which case...Voter Fraud?--but it would sure piss me off if someone named me part of a party I didn't want to be party to.
 
Interesting, but not surprising.

Not any longer.

I'm still waiting for a sudden terrorist alert to shock everyone in the U.S.

Orange Alert, anyone?
 
SoCal man arrested in voter registration fraud
Well, they made an arrest. Of course, it was a biased arrest so it doesn't count as ACORN-level voter fraud. :rolleyes:

The Associated Press
Article Launched: 10/19/2008 06:08:14 PM PDT

ONTARIO, Calif.—State authorities have arrested the owner of a signature-gathering firm on charges of committing voter registration fraud.

Secretary of State Debra Bown says the Election Fraud Investigation Unit arrested Mark Anthony Jacoby, who owns the firm Young Political Majors, late Saturday near an Ontario hotel. Jacoby is accused of registering himself to vote twice— in 2006 and in 2007— using the address of a childhood home in Los Angeles where he no longer lived.

According to state law, signature-gatherers must sign a declaration stating that they are either registered to vote in California or are eligible to do so. Jacoby allegedly used his childhood address to fulfill this requirement.

Jacoby was charged with four felonies: two counts of voter registration fraud and two counts of perjury.
 
Since ACORN has been arguably used to argue that there's voter fraud, will this be pointed out as well?

Of course it will be -- you're making sure of that. :p

Yes, this is voter fraud -- or at least voter registration fraud. It won't affect the general election except for those registered as 'absentee voters' and maybe those who had their polling station/precinct changed, too, although with Electronic Early Voting in most States, the polling place isn't as critical to casting a vote as it used to be.

It doesn't surprise me much that YPM has been investigated for similar violations for nearly a decade, because the penalties for voter registration fraud are barely even slap-on-the-wrist level. It's one reason why ACORN is continuously under investigation for voter registration fraud.

(YPM isn't by chance one of ACORN's member groups, is it? I doubt it, but they're just doing what they're paid for -- registering Republicans.)

The advice about not signing anything outside of a grocery store is good advice. If you're worried about being registered to vote, there are ways to do so without the assistance of (paid) "voter registration volunteers." If youcan't figure out the voter registration form at the DMV office or courthouse, then you probably shouldn't be voting anyway.
 
Of course it will be -- you're making sure of that. :p

She means in the mainstream media. I'm not sure if she means the "elite" mainstream media (are they, like, green berets or something??) or the "regular" mainstream media, though........

:eek:
 
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When you finally get the idea that the Republicans & Democrats are Al Capone and Bugs Moran fighting over turf, you'll see the light.
 
Of course it will be -- you're making sure of that. :p
:rolleyes: Harold, Harold. You can be so clueless sometimes. Do I really have to explain that I didn't mean by me? That I meant, would it be noticed by McCain? None of us here are pointing out ACORN to justify anything. He is. But then, ACORN and this example, generally speaking, only supports the fact that there is voter registration fraud, and so far, the checks in places to stop it have worked quite nicely.

What hasn't been proven is that there is voter fraud requiring say, the disenfranchising of people who've lost their homes. My point here is that if someone is going to use ACORN to point out voter fraud in an attempt to justify such measures, they really should use this as well. Otherwise it's the pot calling the kettle black--asserting that Democrats engage in such measures and so Democrats should be watched carefully for voter fraud. It would be much more convincing if republicans used this and pointed out that, as they can't be trusted either, we all need to be watched.
 
She means in the mainstream media. I'm not sure if she means the "elite" mainstream media (are they, like, green berets or something??) or the "regular" mainstream media, though........
I believe the definition of elite media is anything outside of Fox News :rolleyes:
 
I think we're all overlooking the real crime and abuse of human rights here:

It all sounds familiar to Beverly Hill, a Democrat and the former election supervisor in Florida's Alachua County.

Some couple named their kid Beverly Hill? That's child abuse!
 
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Fox has some very liberal pundits. Its rare when both sides arent included in stories. CNN doesnt include both sides.

Ever the Wall Street Journal roasts Dubya. Peggy Noonan recently called Bush the little bird in the cuckoo clock that pops out every hour spouting 'crisis! crisis! crisis!'
 
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