Is this true?

[rgraham666]

This link showed up on my home page when I signed on today.

A man with as little experience as me had no idea.

But it is on the internet. Which means that it could be complete bullshit.

Is it? I would like to know.

Or maybe I'm just trying to get a flame war started.

 

[cloudy]

Don't know if they're all true...but some struck a chord, yes.

 

[Guest]

one exception.. though the rest is pretty on
foreplay is nice.. it has its place but i do know that there are women out there like me who just want a fast fuck..

there are women out there like me.. arent there?

 

[cloudy]

one exception.. though the rest is pretty on
foreplay is nice.. it has its place but i do know that there are women out there like me who just want a fast fuck..

there are women out there like me.. arent there?

Yes, perverted one, there are. A good quickie is sometimes exactly what I need.

 

[Guest]

Yes, perverted one, there are. A good quickie is sometimes exactly what I need.

bless you cloudy.. bless you..

 

[Tanuki]

9. We will leave you if you lie to us.

Hehe, that's a good one! Great article! And the one on the page about flirting is great too.

 

[SeaCat]

Hmmmm, from a males point of view.
1) We don't read minds, why do you expect us to?
2) You don't want us to compare us to our ex's, You ever think this works both ways?
3) Groping is not foreplay. Listen to yourselves and learn ladies. You may think grabbing us in the fist of iron is sexy, but to us it hurts.
4)You want a quicky? Hell we always want a qquicky. Tell us and we'll oblige.
5) If you don't want us to tell you what to do, don't ask us.
6) If it aint PMS, then don't use it as an excuse.
7) You don't want us to lie to you? Don't lie to us.
8) If we're not having sex with you, it's not because we're having sex with someone else. It's because your obsessing about being fat, you're trying to punish us, or you're just acting like a bitch.
9) We don't tell you how we feel about you every ten mintues because after about a dozen times you should realize we love you.
10) Not all of us are obseesed by the stick figure, big titted women on the porn sites. We don't want you to become them. We love you for who and what you are.

With all the love our society will allow me to show for the other women in my life. (Those here on Lit.)

Cat

 

[shereads]

Be careful with Number 12, rg.

Yes, women like to be told how you feel. But if you say it every fifteen minutes, it loses its impact.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Frankly, RG, I think its a load of crap, written by someone who has no real finesse in the art of sarcasm.
But that's just me.

Best advice? Just pay attention and listen to her, I mean, really listen.

 

[amicus]

This will, without a doubt...be taken the wrong way...so what else is new?

A 'woman' in her natural state of beauty, warm, loving, compassionate, understanding, happy, spontaneous, kooky, irrational, unpredictable, unfaithful and subject to whims and to sublime emotional swings, is natures gift to man who must stare with unflinching strength into the eyes of the beast.

Do not ever attempt to understand or cater to these delightful creatures...just be content that one has chosen to share her mystery with you. Enjoy it while you can...it seldom lasts.

Amicus, the amicable Troll


Edited to add, perhaps inspired by a song: "She's always a woman to me..."

 

[BlackSnake]

Frankly, RG, I think its a load of crap, written by someone who has no real finesse in the art of sarcasm.
But that's just me.

Best advice? Just pay attention and listen to her, I mean, really listen.

Sometimes it's hard to see what women are saying.

Are you listening? Of course, but something seems to be lost in the translation.

When asked the question, do you think I'm fat? Well, it seems as if you are asking my opinion. Now, do you really want to the truth? Do you want a lie? Personally, I just don't answer questions like that, because it's a trick....a trick, I tell you. I figure I must have done something and I'm about to hear about it. The question is just to lure me in.

Women are just out to get us...I tell you.

 

[Guest]

Just learn to understand when we need to be treated good and when we need to be treated bad, and everything will be fine.

Lou

 

[Carl East]

I do know that there are women out there like me, who just want a fast fuck..

there are women out there like me.. arent there?

God I hope so.

Carl

ps oh, and you called.

 

[gystex]

Saying "I love you" before, during or after sex doesn't count.
Bullshit. It's been my (admittedly meager) experience that women really appreciate being told "I love you" in the throes of passion.

When we ask you how we look, "fine" is not an appropriate answer.
It is the answer that will be provided if every other answer causes a ruckus.

We obsess over whether you'll call from the moment we give you our number.
Try it from the other end sometime and see how you do.

We fantasize. But it's usually about you.
Feel free to describe those fantasies in detail and/or try them out.

No matter how cool we seem about it, if you did something bad, we're pissed off.
If that's the case, then don't blame us if we stop trusting your emotional state.

Don't patronize us by asking if our bad mood is because of PMS.
Don't ever use it as an excuse, then.

Don't ever tell us what to do, even when we ask you to.
Don't ask for advice you don't want.

We will leave you if you lie to us.
Read through this list and you'll find 3 separate items that are about a woman's right to be dishonest. If you can't tell what they are, that kind of says something right there, doesn't it?

We're unimpressed by men who don't take the lead. Be a man, dammit!
See above: "Don't ever tell us what to do." Make up your fucking mind.

We love when you hold our hands.
We love when you hold our dicks.

We need to hear how you feel about us. Tell us right now. And again in ten minutes.
If you're that insecure, there's no hope for this relationship.

We want to be the best thing that ever happened to you -- and for you to know it.
Presenting this list would not be a step toward that goal.

If we don't feel loved, we'll start looking elsewhere.
If you don't feel loved, it's probably because we're already looking.

Don't talk about your ex. Ever.
Don't ask about our ex. Ever.

We like porn, too.
If that were true, there would be a hell of a lot more male pornstars.

We remember everything about our relationships. Yes, everything.
And however distorted and one-sided that memory is, it will be held against us.

We let you fix things.
Don't pretend you know how to do it any better than we do.

You're sexiest when you're: sweating, driving, shaving, or holding a baby.
You're sexiest when you're: naked, naked, naked, or naked.

We've faked it.
See above on lying.

Groping and foreplay are not the same thing.
Tell us what you want and we're generally happy to provide.

While we're on the subject: more foreplay!
See above.

If we're not having sex it's because: we feel fat; we don't feel very close to you, or we are punishing you for not doing something our way.
Yes, those are the first three of over a thousand reasons.

We're afraid to meet your mother.
Join the club.

We think you should have already known all this stuff.
The amount of stuff we think you should know would fill several books.


Having said all that, I sincerely doubt this was written by a woman. The women I've known are smarter than that.

 

[BlackSnake]

Actually, I play no games. I do listen to the things she likes and try to give them to her when the mood seems right. Movies, music, concerts, ice cream, chocolate, silence, craziness, hugs, kisses, and other things that I pick up on, she tell me, or I ask. You can never make anyone happy all the time, but you can be there when they need you most of the time.

ed to add: I don't mind, because she's always in the mood.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I love these articles that make women sound as if they're some kind of species of exotic iguana whose care and feeding has baffled the greatest minds in the world. I thought dcience had agreed that women are a type of human being.

This stuff is the flip side of women-driver jokes.

---Zoot Q. Lewis

 

[cloudy]

I can't help but notice how some of the replies made by men seem so......I dunno, hateful.

Yes, women are mysterious to you. That's the way it's supposed to be. I promise, most of the time you are just as much a mystery to us. The differences are what make life interesting.

In my experience, (some) men could learn a few things, if they only paid attention. Body language says as much, if not more than what we actually say.

I would be reasonably happy if some could learn simple appreciation...the art of saying "thank you," and meaning it. I don't have a problem in the world saying it, nor do I have a problem saying "I'm sorry" when I feel that I was wrong. Not all men are like this, granted, but the majority I've been around seem to choke on those words.

Being taken for granted, and I'm sure there are both men and women that feel that way, is one of the worst feelings in the world.

 

[BlackSnake]

Cloudy,

There are times when saying "I'm sorry" is not a good thing. I do what I can to prevent myself from every being untruthful to my wife. When I do something that is an accident like falling, the saying I'm sorry is OK, but if I do something with the intent on doing it, more than likely given the same circurmstances I would do it again, so I will not say "I'm sorry", because it would be a straight lie.

 

[psychocatblah]

I really don't know about that list. Some of them ring true, but any of the nice ones done in extreme would make me nuts. Like I'd love to get an email from my husband from work now and then. If he did it all day?

And I like him to take the lead, maybe sometimes more than he does, but if he did it all the time?

Oh, and the PMS thing REALLY gets on my nerves. I've never personally blamed a fight on PMS. Others he's been with have, And whenever there's a disagreement, "Is this PMS?" "Is this my foot up your ass?"

PMS is like the "n" word. We can use it, you can't. Well, no, but I thought it was funny. It just riles me as a woman who doesn't throw fits or use it as an excuse to yell at other people. Besides, the way it works for me is that generally I'm broody and depressed.

Now, one thing my husband has learned to his oh-so-great benefit, is that if he wants some all he has to do is say, "Have you lost weight?" Or if I look kind of wrecked like things are getting me down he'll say that. Oh, I know he's full of shit generally. But it shows concern and a that. He's also not sparse with the "I love yous" so there might be something to that.

But a lot of the list is just "We're passive aggressive bitches and you should cater to our non-communicativeness." I hate that. It's no one's job to read my mind or her mind or anyone's mind. Well, unless it is your job, in which case, you know... do it. And I can see why a lot of the male posts are kind of hateful, this list is pretty full of mind-reading expecations. *shrugs*

 

[gystex]

I can't help but notice how some of the replies made by men seem so......I dunno, hateful.

It's an antagonistic list by its nature. It's essentially saying "Oh, haven't you figured this out yet? You really are stupid."

If the list were about more truthful things, I'd respect it. For instance:

(from the woman's point of view)

It's important for us to feel loved and cherished. Actions speak louder than words in this regard.

If you have a sexual fantasy, tell us about it. If we say no, don't push the issue.

We sometimes like to have dirty, kinky, slutty sex. However, we also like to have deep, loving, romantic sex. Don't neglect that second part.

When we tell you about our problems, we don't always want solutions. Sometimes we just want a sounding board.

We accept that you will find other women attractive. Just don't rub it in our faces.

If your excuse for poor behavior (i.e., infidelity) is "it's different for a man", don't even bother.

As a rule, men are not sexier when they're drunk.

Being a sensitive and understanding guy is not the same as being a doormat.

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I'm not a woman, but I'd still be willing to bet that my list of "Things women wish men knew" is more accurate than the one under discussion here, and a hell of a lot less hostile.

 

[psychocatblah]

As a rule, men are not sexier when they're drunk.

Being a sensitive and understanding guy is not the same as being a doormat.[/size]

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I'm not a woman, but I'd still be willing to bet that my list of "Things women wish men knew" is more accurate than the one under discussion here, and a hell of a lot less hostile.

I definitely like your list better.

Although I would say that men can be sexier when they're drunk if the woman is drunk as well.

 

[cloudy]

It's an antagonistic list by its nature. It's essentially saying "Oh, haven't you figured this out yet? You really are stupid."

If the list were about more truthful things, I'd respect it. For instance:

(from the woman's point of view)

It's important for us to feel loved and cherished. Actions speak louder than words in this regard.

If you have a sexual fantasy, tell us about it. If we say no, don't push the issue.

We sometimes like to have dirty, kinky, slutty sex. However, we also like to have deep, loving, romantic sex. Don't neglect that second part.

When we tell you about our problems, we don't always want solutions. Sometimes we just want a sounding board.

We accept that you will find other women attractive. Just don't rub it in our faces.

If your excuse for poor behavior (i.e., infidelity) is "it's different for a man", don't even bother.

As a rule, men are not sexier when they're drunk.

Being a sensitive and understanding guy is not the same as being a doormat.

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I'm not a woman, but I'd still be willing to bet that my list of "Things women wish men knew" is more accurate than the one under discussion here, and a hell of a lot less hostile.

It's just interesting to me that something that, to me, was obviously a joke, was taken so seriously, and reacted to in such a hostile manner.

A peek into men's subconcious maybe? I don't know. I won't even hazard a guess.

And, for the record, I have never used PMS as an excuse, I don't expect to be catered to, and I don't expect total devotion and obedience. An equal partner, however, would be nice. And yes, your list is much, much closer to the mark.

I would add one final thing for women who choose to stay home, raise children, etc.

*Don't believe that the clean house, clean clothes, and dinner on the table every night is your just due; a thank you, or "that was a good dinner, sweetheart" can never go amiss. (I deal with this every damn day, and would rather go back to work, at least you feel appreciated there)

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

1.
Saying "I love you" before, during or after sex doesn't count.
No it doesn’t, but NOT saying it does!

2.
When we ask you how we look, "fine" is not an appropriate answer.
Once, yes. As a standard reply (especially without looking) BEWARE!

3.
We obsess over whether you'll call from the moment we give you our number.
Depending upon who you are -- ‘Maybe.’ It could be either a positive or negative, obsession?

4.
We fantasize. But it's usually about you.
Usually its about chocolate, a movies star we have never met, or someone who would rub our feet .

5.
We love it when you email us at work.
That depends upon what you email, and how often. Investigate definition of ‘stalker.’

6.
No matter how cool we seem about it, if you did something bad, we're pissed off.
What? You thought maybe your bullshit WORKS!

7.
Don't patronize us by asking if our bad mood is because of PMS.
“Don’t worry dear, every man is impotent once in a while,” is alright with you?

8.
Don't ever tell us what to do, even when we ask you to.
If you have a GOOD idea, maybe. Mostly HOW, not WHAT you advise.

9.
We will leave you if you lie to us.
Weird, isn’t it?

10.
We're unimpressed by men who don't take the lead. Be a man, dammit!
Only when you know where you are going, and we ask for advice.

11.
We love when you hold our hands.
Check hands first. Wash. Is this to show possession around other men?

12.
We need to hear how you feel about us. Tell us right now. And again in ten minutes
Once is fine, unless your opinion has changed.

13.
We want to be the best thing that ever happened to you -- and for you to know it.
But only if you are truthful, or can lie convincingly.

14.
If we don't feel loved, we'll start looking elsewhere.
Sorry, but listening to you fart just isn’t that entertaining.

15.
Don't talk about your ex. Ever.
Or compare what we do to how your mother does it.

16.
We like porn, too.
Be prepared for different subjects. (Objects.)

17.
We remember everything about our relationships. Yes, everything.
Or, at least the parts you forget quickly – assuming you noticed.

18.
We let you fix things.
We even let your Fux things.

19.
You're sexiest when you're: sweating, driving, shaving, or holding a baby.
Depends upon who you are with, but definitely not all at once.

20.
We've faked it.
Would you rather we told you that you are inadequate?

21.
Groping and foreplay are not the same thing.
Get an instruction book. Read. You weren’t born able to change the oil in a Chevy, either.

22.
While we're on the subject: more foreplay!
Drawing blood with our nails is a good indication that we have nearly had enough.

23.
If we're not having sex it's because: we feel fat; we don't feel very close to you, or we are punishing you for not doing something our way.
Or we just had lunch and you still need to learn a position that doesn’t squish your partner.

24.
We're afraid to meet your mother.
Yes, there’s too great a chance we might break out in hysterical laughter.

25.
We think you should have already known all this stuff.
It’s not so much that you’re from Mars, but the effects of the oxygen deprivation on the trip to Earth.

 

[gystex]

20.
We've faked it.
Would you rather we told you that you are inadequate?

No. We'd rather you tell us what you DO want, so we can provide it. When a woman fakes an orgasm and succeeds, she'd better be prepared to do it a lot more often, because we'll think we're doing it right.

Women who fake orgasms are only making their own sex life miserable.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

My Hubby gave me the sweetest compliment I've ever heard - and he wasn't even trying to be sweet, he was just being himself:
"Talk to me. I want to listen to your voice."