Is this Kosher.

[GrayAndBlack]

Hello all. I am new here. I am wondering if I am allowed to do this.

After I read a story can I send an email or message to the author saying "Hey I liked your story. If you would like to publish it on my site ________.com, I would like to have it there. You may make money."?

If that is allowed wonderful.

If not it is certainly understandable. Could I publish one of my own stories and then at the end say, "If you would like to read more of my stories please visit my site, ______.com."?

 

[sr71plt]

Sure, go ahead. Don't be surprised if they are disbelieving or skittish, though. I've published with a few who have contacted me that way, though. (And not with others, who didn't offer a good deal.)

 

[SamScribble]

As Pilot says: Yep, go ahead. But don't be surprised if authors are disbelieving or skittish. There is a lot of spam out there. If I was in your shoes, I'd probably want to put some effort into establishing the creds of your site. Good luck.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

You could, but now a days any author can publish their stuff at Amazon or Smashwords for free.

With Smashwords your work gets distributed to Sony, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Apple, Diesel, Page Foundry, Baker & Taylor Blio, Library Direct, Baker-Taylor Axis, Flipkart, Oyster and Scribd all for free.

Amazon pays monthly, Smashwords quarterly.

 

[GrayAndBlack]

You could, but now a days any author can publish their stuff at Amazon or Smashwords for free.

With Smashwords your work gets distributed to Sony, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Apple, Diesel, Page Foundry, Baker & Taylor Blio, Library Direct, Baker-Taylor Axis, Flipkart, Oyster and Scribd all for free.

Amazon pays monthly, Smashwords quarterly.

That is not entirely true.

Amazon has been removing stories about incest and non-consent.

I know because my own stories were removed.

 

[TxRad]

That is not entirely true.

Amazon has been removing stories about incest and non-consent.

I know because my own stories were removed.

Not everyone writes Incest and/or Non-consent.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

That is not entirely true.

Amazon has been removing stories about incest and non-consent.

I know because my own stories were removed.

Although I have written some Amazon only refused to publish one. I have several others still up over there. Of course the titles don't reflect that they are incest or pseudo-incest.

Now apple has thrown out most of my work. Several though have remained. I question their guidelines, because what they left is just as bad as those they pulled.

 

[lovecraft68]

You can contact authors, but you cannot mention a website at the end or anywhere else in a story.

As for incest/non con on amazon. Real incest they did away with awhile back as for their recent crackdown on step incest/non con and monster pron here is the thing.

Look at your rejection e-mail they are saying title/cover/description or all three.

Their new game is you can write whatever content you want, but the "wrapping" has to be pretty vanilla. They don't care what's in it, but how it is presented.

 

[lovecraft68]

You could, but now a days any author can publish their stuff at Amazon or Smashwords for free.

With Smashwords your work gets distributed to Sony, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Apple, Diesel, Page Foundry, Baker & Taylor Blio, Library Direct, Baker-Taylor Axis, Flipkart, Oyster and Scribd all for free.

Amazon pays monthly, Smashwords quarterly.

The ones I put in bold accept little to nothing in the way of erotica.

and Scribd is a fucking joke. Its known as a free site(with a substantial amount of what is there being stolen and posted without permission) and no one is ever going to pay for anything.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Hello all. I am new here. I am wondering if I am allowed to do this.

After I read a story can I send an email or message to the author saying "Hey I liked your story. If you would like to publish it on my site ________.com, I would like to have it there. You may make money."?

If that is allowed wonderful.

If not it is certainly understandable. Could I publish one of my own stories and then at the end say, "If you would like to read more of my stories please visit my site, ______.com."?

Contacting other authors and asking for permission is OK, but advertising your own site in a story post is not permitted. (In your forum signature or user profile is allowed.)

 

[sr71plt]

Sure you can self-publish. If you're good enough, though, you can find a publisher to do all of the grunt work for you and to cover the expenses of production themselves. And then they can be the ones to worry if Amazon wants to take down one or more of your books.

Those who badmouth having a publisher are mostly those who couldn't find one--or didn't bother to try to or who couldn't do the math on relative cost/benefit.

To find one, go to one of the mega distributors (Amazon, B&N, Smashwords, Allromancebooks.com), find books like the ones you are writing, look to see if they have publishers, go to the publisher's Web site, check out the submissions guidelines. But you need to have something good enough to attract a publisher and you've got to be savvy enough to have done the math on whether it's advantageous to use a publisher. Most self-publishers delude themselves on how much they are going to make from a book, because they don't factor in how much it's going to cost them to produce, promote, distribute, and maintain a book title by themselves.

 

[lovecraft68]

No, some who don't use a publisher simply don't feel like kicking over a percentage to do what anyone can do themselves these days.

With the exception of whatever a publisher may have as their own "storefront" website" there is nowhere they can put you that you cannot put yourself.

Now do things like covers and formatting and uploading take away from some writing time? Of course it does, but your profit margin makes up for it and you're in total control of your stuff.

But the school of thought that all self published authors are not good enough to have a publisher is just something some people say to make themselves feel superior (but I guess someone has to)

 

[sr71plt]

As I posted, some self-publishers can't do the math very well on cost-benefit of them doing everything themselves (and paying for it) plus the lost writing time.

These invariably are the people who can't find a publisher or, not being able to do good cost-benefit analysis, don't even try to. Yep, there are some folks who enjoy doing all of the production, promotion, and distribution functions themselves and do it well. Not many of those exist, though--certainly not many who can use the sales synergy and economies of scale of a publisher and only have their own products to sell. Self-publishers mostly are those who can't get a publisher or who don't even try.

It's fine for them to do this--until they start denigrating using publishers just because they can't get one and/or can't do the math.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Crap, here we go again...

 

[lovecraft68]

Yawn.

I'm not going to go round and round with you on this again.

You're a bitter individual who foams at the mouth daily because none of us hacks think you're anything, but the lying fraud you are and don't pay any attention to you.

Your "publisher" came from the same free site we're talking on right now. And you can claim otherwise all you want about all your other publishers that you of course just can't mention here.

Give it up Pilot, no one believes you and no one cares.

One of these days I'll lose interest in batting you around like a mouse and then no one will be paying any attention to you.

I guess you didn't get that personality for Christmas we were all hoping for.

 

[sr71plt]

There are more established publishers than mine (for erotica). That's certainly true, and I've never said otherwise. I have mine because I can do as much of the design as I want, I get priority attention, and, mostly, because I can have arrangements where I get royalties through cutouts and not even my publishers know who I really am.

The kicker that's on topic here, is that my publishers get my books edited and cover all of the costs of covers, production, ISBNs, copyright, distribution--as well as all of the aggravation of putting them in multiple formats for multiple distributors--and then maintaining them. When Amazon recently notified that my Choke Hold was being taken down, the publisher took care of it and got it back up. In the first attack campaign by Amazon, my publisher did the same quietly and effectively while you were wringing your hands and misfiring at Amazon about censorship.

A. You haven't done the cost-benefit analysis if you continue to yammer that you are advantaged because you get all the profit--when you don't seem to have a clue what the real profit is. (For starters, editing runs into the hundreds of dollars--which I'll bet you don't even get done. You go with your copy replacing apostrophes with semicolons.) And, B. after doing what I want toward production--like finding an image I want for the cover--someone else does the rest (including paying for the image and the cover design).

I'm not running down self-publishing. I'm countering you continually running down using publishers (simply because you always have to run me and whatever I'm doing down). The bottom line is that you are pretty much clueless about the world of publishing, Lovecraft68, and trying pull other posters here along with you.

 

[lovecraft68]

Pilot, I can't tell you how you did it(it was nothing on this thread), but I owe you big time. I got some bad news today, but you just made me laugh so hard I almost shot coke out of my nose.

Thanks, pal, I needed that.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Two things....

1. Pilot, we all know how much better you are than us, you tell us every chance you get.

B. Love, just think what would happen if nobody every responded to one of his posts?

 

[sr71plt]

Two things....

1. Pilot, we all know how much better you are than us, you tell us every chance you get.

Bullshit, you saying that doesn't make it so.

The irony here is that I just made a bow to you on green E's (when there was a whole lot more to say about that if I was doing what you say I do).

 

[lovecraft68]

Two things....

1. Pilot, we all know how much better you are than us, you tell us every chance you get.

B. Love, just think what would happen if nobody every responded to one of his posts?

I know. I know. I know.

But he's just like that hot young thing at the club. You know you shouldn't, you know you shouldn't, but its just to tempting!

 

[sr71plt]

Besides, you're a sick stalker with an inferiority complex who can't help yourself. You just have to have your nose up my ass all of the time.

The bottom line is that you have absolutely no experience with publishers but you have no trouble making stuff up and blowing it out your ass.

 

[lovecraft68]

Uh-oh, its last word time and Pilot's just gotta have it.

Funny how much the last word means so much to such a literary legend!

And yes, he is a legend! Don't believe me? Just ask his alt! They'll tell you!

 

[sr71plt]

Ah, the silly old "last word" game in which you almost always are actually the one posting the last word. (Just like other posters who invoke this and wind up with egg on their face because they were the last ones who posted.)

One thing that invoking the game is, though, is a recognition that you've come up blank with your argumentation points and realize that you have.

Can you resist? No, I don't think so. Will it help that this is the last post I'll be putting on this thread, and I have the willpower to carry through? Even with that help, can you resist? I doubt it. Just like with what you just posted, you just can't resist putting your nose up my butt one more time, can you?

Bottom line, again, when you pontificate about publishing as you did here, you are firing blanks, as you have no experience with real publishing at all.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Bullshit, you saying that doesn't make it so.

The irony here is that I just made a bow to you on green E's (when there was a whole lot more to say about that if I was doing what you say I do).

And I thank you.

But you do, every chance you get, even when no one asks or wants to know.

And you always have to have the last word.


If this isn't true you won't respond to this at all.

 

[lovecraft68]

Ah, yes the vaunted Green E.

The ultimate sign that....

One person here enjoyed your story. The person "with the pen" so to speak.

I'll take H's and W's here(signs that many people enjoyed a story) and sales in the "real world" over those thank you.

Something tells me Zeb will agree especially on the sales portion.