Is there anything the U.S. can do for the Uighurs of Xinjiang?

[The_Trouvere]

The UK government has acted about China's oppression of freedom in Hong Kong by providing British passports for people who want to leave Hong Kong and guaranteeing them asylum in the UK.

That could be many thousands, even tens of thousands. But the Uighurs? The Uighurs are not permitted to leave their region. Getting them out would be very difficult.

Chinese respond well to Western civilization. I doubt the Uighurs would.

 

[oggbashan]

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Not that any Uighurs are trying to emigrate to the U.S., that I have heard of.

There is a fair-sized Uighur presence in Turkey - another Muslim country. But China refuses to let Uighurs leave. Those that have, have had to smuggle themselves out.

 

[ll74]

The precious minerals that China sits on make any political pressure rather tricky.

 

[ll74]

The Jews are people like us. Muslims are not.

Humans are humans. Capable of the same bullshit. Religion is always the problem, but certainly not restrained to Islam.

 

[pecksniff]

Chinese respond well to Western civilization. I doubt the Uighurs would.

What's the difference?

 

[pecksniff]

Dunno why Pecksmith worries about other folks minorities. The USA can be pretty busy looking after its own.

If the USA wants to do something in that area it might not be a bad idea to stir up trouble between China and Russia over Kazakhstan, considering that some Uighurs are Kazakhs and many Kazakhs are Uighars. There are 200,000 Uighurs in Kazakhstan already. That's a lot of potential for causing trouble for both Vlad and Xi - without getting directly involved.

Paging Borat!

 

[colddiesel]

The USA imprisons about the same number of its minorities (Blacks and Hispanics) as do the Chinese, despite the fact that there are 5 times as many Chinese. Maybe both nations should have a crack at fixing their own problems first.

 

[pecksniff]

The USA imprisons about the same number of its minorities (Blacks and Hispanics) as do the Chinese, despite the fact that there are 5 times as many Chinese. Maybe both nations should have a crack at fixing their own problems first.

Well, it's not the same thing, is it? These Uighurs are being incarcerated just for being Uighurs, and the goal is not to turn them into honest citizens but to turn them into Han Chinese.

 

[Rightguide]

There is, you know, an awful lot of regret over America's failure to do more for the European Jews in the 1930s and '40s. We could at least have let more of them emigrate here -- in one case, a shipload of them was turned away and ultimately had to return to Europe.

Not that any Uighurs are trying to emigrate to the U.S., that I have heard of.

We're all out of "doing more" by moving people here. We already have a couple million we're going to have to run out of here when we finally elect a real President in 2024. We can help the Uighurs by pressuring China to be more humane towards its citizens. We can pull away from trade with China, we can sanction them.

 

[Rightguide]

The USA imprisons about the same number of its minorities (Blacks and Hispanics) as do the Chinese, despite the fact that there are 5 times as many Chinese. Maybe both nations should have a crack at fixing their own problems first.

Prove it. Show us the numbers.

 

[pecksniff]

We're all out of "doing more" by moving people here. We already have a couple million we're going to have to run out of here

That is never going to happen.

 

[Rightguide]

What's the difference?

Why don't you take a trip there and find out.

 

[Sean Renaud]

We're all out of "doing more" by moving people here. We already have a couple million we're going to have to run out of here when we finally elect a real President in 2024. We can help the Uighurs by pressuring China to be more humane towards its citizens. We can pull away from trade with China, we can sanction them.

We shouldn't be done and there are no people we are going to run out in off chance a Republican wins in 24.

 

[colddiesel]

Prove it. Show us the numbers.

Get off your fat ass and your deep seated prejudices and google it yourself. There are numerous sources. Your hypocrisy could make a dog vomit; you constantly detach the USA from foreign entanglements, but you still reserve the 'right' to tell those foreigners how to run their own affairs. I don't doubt for a moment that Xi's government are a bunch of assholes, but there is plenty of evidence that in consideration of minorities the USA doesn't win any prizes either. Get your own house in order first.

And considering your deep concern for minorities how do you feel about the explosion in attacks on American citizens of Asian origin - by other Americans.

 

[Sean Renaud]

While the US doesn't win any awards, we are worlds apart from what is happening in China and plenty of other places on the planet. I'm concerned about police overreacting to me, or my family. I'm worried that the cops are going to run African Americans into some reservations where they are going to die.

 

[slutindianwife]

they can, but do they want to?
this is not a new issue.

 

[slutindianwife]

Get off your fat ass and your deep seated prejudices and google it yourself. There are numerous sources. Your hypocrisy could make a dog vomit; you constantly detach the USA from foreign entanglements, but you still reserve the 'right' to tell those foreigners how to run their own affairs. I don't doubt for a moment that Xi's government are a bunch of assholes, but there is plenty of evidence that in consideration of minorities the USA doesn't win any prizes either. Get your own house in order first.

And considering your deep concern for minorities how do you feel about the explosion in attacks on American citizens of Asian origin - by other Americans.

and google can be trusted?
lol

 

[pecksniff]

I'm worried that the cops are going to run African Americans into some reservations where they are going to die.

Isn't that where they live now?

 

[Rightguide]

We shouldn't be done and there are no people we are going to run out in off chance a Republican wins in 24.

That's what you think. The next Republican President will uphold the law and go after those who entered illegally.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's what you think. The next Republican President will uphold the law and go after those who entered illegally.

No they won't. Bush didn't, Trump didn't, and Trump won't. They are far, far to valuable and only a racist would be going after those who entered illegally anyway.

 

[pecksniff]

That's what you think. The next Republican President will uphold the law and go after those who entered illegally.

Deportations will never number in the millions. Too economically disruptive.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Also it would simply cost more money than it could possibly hope to save by any rational stretch.

 

[Rightguide]

Deportations will never number in the millions. Too economically disruptive.

It's quite easy, ask Eisenhower.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Ignoring that nobody should emulate what Eisenhower did (holy shit why do conservatives work SO hard to be racist pieces of shit? Is it like an Olympic Event I wasn't made privy to or something? Cus yall can dial it back. I won't tell Ghost Hitler.) you'd NEVER be able to pull off something remotely similar to that today for a multitude of reasons. AND THAT WAS IMMORAL IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE.


1. Mexico was suffering a labor shortage and cooperated with the US to move Mexicans back to Mexico. We have no idea how many of them were either Americans by birth, or had immigrated legally. So just like that bitch in Arizona tried a few years back, we just made it illegal to be brown skinned.

2. While the Right is still easily fooled with racist rhetoric you're never gonna convince even 51% of Americans that Mexicans are dirty, disease ridden, dangerous criminals. At worst you're going to sell the "Too many speak Spanish and I don't want my kids being indoctrinated with the idea that it's okay to eat tacos.

3. To much of our society is dependent on them at this point.

4. Operation Wetback deported (according to the government, many historians think the number was much lower) fewer individuals than we estimate cross the border annually. Good luck with that.

This isn't gonna happen, it just won't. You can hate with every inch of your shriveled black heart and it won't change the facts.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Yes. Send Kamala to China. Or someplace sort of near China. She had huge success on her trip to “the border” and her trip to Eastern Europe. The nervous laugh works wonders.