Is there a difference between Socialism, Marxism and Fascism?

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

... and to think, the whole purpose of this thread was for naughty to be able to play the "Obama isn't a Marxist/Socialist/Fascist" card because the wingnuts wouldn't be able to pigeon-hole him enough to avoid her playing "gotcha" with wikipedia definitions...

He's a COLLECTIVIST!

A man of COMMUNAL leanings!

A man who believes he is smart enough to dictate law, run business, provide health care, and manufacture world Peace with apology and empathy for fellow collectivist nations.

 

[RightField]

Communism, socialism, and facism ALL share the same root philosophy. They differ only in the degree and detail of the implementation of their agendas.

So as the the question, "Is there a difference?" Of course there is. If there weren't we wouldn't have three different nomenclatures for them. But one can easily morph into another of it's 'sister' forms rather easily.

The root philosophy of all three can be traced back to Wilhelm Gregor Hegel whose philosophical line went............."The state is the highest manifestation of God on earth." As such the state acts as the temporal hand of God and is superior to the people (masses) in all respects. The Communists merely did away with God altogether and replaced Him with the state. The Socialist believe that God gets in the way of an orderly society, a society in which they dictate the order. The Facists merely believe that they are acting in direct accordance with some heavenly plan. All three believe that the intent is more important than the results.

All three of the mentioned philosophies are in direct conflict with the notions held by the founders of the US who traced their philosophical roots back to John Locke. Locke held that the highest manifestaion of God on earth is the individual and that a proper society is ruled by the individual(s) acting in their own best interest in concert with other like minded individuals. As such all power resides with the people who loan that power to the government and can withhold that power as well.

The two philosophies are in direct conflict with one another and no 'bipartisan' compromise is possible regarding the respective relationship between the individual and the state. It is the difference between liberty and being ruled over.

Ishmael

You forgot to add the the liberal democrats advocate the all-powerful state while the Republicans stand firm for the individual, constitution and liberty.

 

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You forgot to add the the liberal democrats advocate the all-powerful state while the Republicans stand firm for the individual, constitution and liberty.

Not so much under President Bush...

McCain Feingold
No Child Left Behind
Elderly Prescriptions (for votes)
Stimulus checks (for votes) TARP (for contributions)...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

He has no sympathies for traditional American values and is going to insist that we all be equally miserable. He'll be lucky if he isn't eventually impeached. Though there may be big support for his collectivist ideas in the extreme wing of his party, the judgment of the American people can be awesome.

He won't be impeached; Democrats are Socialists too and Republicans are too afraid of losing the black and Hispanic vote...

rlmao at the Clown College known as Congress.

 

[naughtycakes]

... and to think, the whole purpose of this thread was for naughty to be able to play the "Obama isn't a Marxist/Socialist/Fascist" card because the wingnuts wouldn't be able to pigeon-hole him enough to avoid her playing "gotcha" with wikipedia definitions...

He's a COLLECTIVIST!

A man of COMMUNAL leanings!

A man who believes he is smart enough to dictate law, run business, provide health care, and manufacture world Peace with apology and empathy for fellow collectivist nations.

The purpose of this thread was the same purpose of every other thread I start at Lit... my amusement.

I do it for shits & giggles.

Anywyas, it's all clear to me now. Obama is a socialist, Marxist, fascist Totalitarian. According to vetteman, he may be a cross-dresser, too, but that's yet to be proven in this thread.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Gee, naughty seems to have grown weary of her thread...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The purpose of this thread was the same purpose of every other thread I start at Lit... my amusement.

I do it for shits & giggles.

Anywyas, it's all clear to me now. Obama is a socialist, Marxist, fascist Totalitarian. According to vetteman, he may be a cross-dresser, too, but that's yet to be proven in this thread.

Well, the communist Frank Marshall Davis was a known molester of young boys and he was given time alone with the young Barack for "MENtoring..."



Boyz 2 MEN!

 

[naughtycakes]

Gee, naughty seems to have grown weary of her thread...

Yeah, somewhat.

No offense, but some of you guys could bore anybody.

 

[naughtycakes]

Well, the communist Frank Marshall Davis was a known molester of young boys and he was given time alone with the young Barack for "MENtoring..."



Boyz 2 MEN!

Hmmm, so then he was raised a Marxist and a child molester?

Maybe that's why he placed the flag at half-mast to commemorate M.Jackson's death!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Yeah, somewhat.

No offense, but some of you guys could bore anybody.

I'll leave boring you to the others.

I don't want to catch whatever the hell it is that you got...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Hmmm, so then he was raised a Marxist and a child molester?

Maybe that's why he placed the flag at half-mast to commemorate M.Jackson's death!

Not fair, Michael was acquitted, he was merely gay, and weird, maybe more weird than gay...

 

[naughtycakes]

I'll leave boring you to the others.

I don't want to catch whatever the hell it is that you got...

I got all kinds of goodies that sparkle around me, but you couldn't catch any if you tried.

Toodle-loo!

Not fair, Michael was acquitted, he was merely gay, and weird, maybe more weird than gay...

Yeah, you're right, it's not fair to compare Obama's child molester MENtoring Marxist indoctrination to M. Jackson.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I'm never Wright,
I'm always wrong,
Everything I say,
Seems to need correction...



I stand alone today,
Don't ask me what I say!

 

[naughtycakes]

I'm never Wright,
I'm always wrong,
Everything I say,
Seems to need correction...



I stand alone today,
Don't ask me what I say!

Hey... wait!

Don't leave! You forgot your pink tu-tu and red slippers!

 

[richard_daily]

The purpose of this thread was the same purpose of every other thread I start at Lit... my amusement.

I do it for shits & giggles.

Anywyas, it's all clear to me now. Obama is a socialist, Marxist, fascist Totalitarian. According to vetteman, he may be a cross-dresser, too, but that's yet to be proven in this thread.

You're hitting on all of vettemans' repressed fantasies, all in one post.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

You're hitting on all of vettemans' repressed fantasies, all in one post.

I bet the floor in front of his computer terminal seat is reaaaaallly sticky, too.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Hey... wait!

Don't leave! You forgot your pink tu-tu and red slippers!

Silly girl; that's not my only pair(s)...

 

[torchthebitch]

Yes. Social and Fasc never really existed.

 

[John Doe]

The purpose of this thread was the same purpose of every other thread I start at Lit... my amusement.

I do it for shits & giggles.

Anywyas, it's all clear to me now. Obama is a socialist, Marxist, fascist Totalitarian. According to vetteman, he may be a cross-dresser, too, but that's yet to be proven in this thread.

Being both Fascist and totalitarian really isn't much of a stretch since historically Fascism has also been totalitarian.

By the way, I'd like you to address Hitler's fascistness (or lack thereof).

 

[KingOrfeo]

Capitalism has been under a federal dictatorship since FDR.

Only in the sense that American government at all levels has been under a capitalist dictatorship since the Industrial Revolution.

No, not even in that sense.