Is nudity no big deal?

[THROBBS]

I know that in the United States many people flip out at a flashed nipple on TV. Some freak out at breast feeding. Some have a tough time with plumber's crack... male OR female. Some feel that nude beaches are ..whatever. Sometimes it is a matter of the perceived relative attractiveness of the perpetrator or the nudity (entire or partial).

The flip side is the view that nudity is natural. It is how we are born.

I like nudity...but I also do not want to become desensitized to it. I enjoy being nude. I enjoy seeing nudity. I enjoy getting surreptitious glimpses.

I am an illustrator. I spent 5 years in art school and many year beyond drawing live nude models. I know MANY "artists' who say... it is no big deal, it is just work, I could be drawing a vase of flowers. I hope that drawing a naked OR clothed human figure will NEVER be reduced to that for me. When I draw a person (I'll stick with naked), I always feel SOME degree of intimacy. I am studying, inspecting, grazing over them with my eyes in the most intimate way. Certainly my task at hand is my rendering, but I do not want to create some mechanical rendition.... a camera can do that much better. I have only occasionally allowed myself the pleasure of acknowledging the voyeuristic thrill WHILE drawing. More typically I will sublimate that feeling, while not completely losing it.

I have also been to a few minor nude beaches in my past. While I did not "ogle", I DID enjoy being nude and seeing nudity. I can appreciate the old man and woman and their wrinkled and sagging flesh, knowing full well that will be my own condition in short order. I can enjoy the tiger stripes of stretch marks on a woman who has battled against her weight... or as a badge of honor from child birth. And OF COURSE I enjoy seeing the muscular fit young men and lush rounded curves of the youthful women..and the sexuality and sensuousness of their bodies. To me it is not "no big deal"...it is a GREAT deal!

I try not to be "hung up" about nudity. I do not make a big deal about it around my daughters. But I always make an effort to wear a bathrobe and change discretely.

I LOVE that I have ready access to "pornography". HOWEVER, I'd rather that sexuality wasn't so pervasive in, seemingly, every single television program and movie. I Love that women have been wearing tights as pants! I love the human body... I especially love the female human body. I believe I will always enjoy that.

I guess.... I'd like to keep nudity a big deal! not "forbidden" or "scandalous"...but ......hmmm.... maybe a "thrill".



(just some rambling thoughts because this came up today)

 

[cloudy]

I don't think it's a big deal, not really. Whatever you're comfortable with, ya know?

 

[SeaCat]

Nudity shouldn't be something to fear or even a thrill in my book. It is natural after all

Yes a Nude woman is nice to look upon for me but it is not necesarily a turn on to me.

Now give me a glimpse of a breast under a shirt or robe, or maybe that extra length of high thigh and you have my attention.

I won't get into my feelings on the right and wrong of nudity or more importantly Public Nudity.

Cat

 

[THROBBS]

Nudity shouldn't be something to fear or even a thrill in my book. It is natural after all

Yes a Nude woman is nice to look upon for me but it is not necesarily a turn on to me.

Now give me a glimpse of a breast under a shirt or robe, or maybe that extra length of high thigh and you have my attention.

I won't get into my feelings on the right and wrong of nudity or more importantly Public Nudity.

Cat

I like the thrill.... of the glimpse AND/or the full monty. Of course not always "Thrilling" per se.

Why NOT get into your feelings about the right or wrongness? Seems there is a time and place. THIS is the time and especially the place.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

The Swiss are about to start fining anyone who they catch backpacking in the nude. Sigh

 

[impressive]

The sight of nudity is no big deal. It's the FEEL of it that trips my triggers. And the taste.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Forcing folks to look at your wide body and fat ass is considered cruel & unusual punishment.

Thank your lucky stars you can still exhibit your charms at the carnival.

 

[THROBBS]

was pondering this.... and "big deal" is not quite correct.
I think "Special" is closer to what I feel..and hope to always feel
Definitely touch and taste are EXTRA special.

 

[IsabellaKing]

was pondering this.... and "big deal" is not quite correct.
I think "Special" is closer to what I feel..and hope to always feel
Definitely touch and taste are EXTRA special.

I think I understood your use of the pharse 'big deal'. It would be a shame to reach a point when nudity really was 'no big deal'. My husband, who has seen me naked from just about every angle, never fails to comment when he catches a glimpse of the small of my back as I bend over.

I have no problems with nudity, and have spent many a balmy summer day around nudist beaches, but I would hate for the naked body to have no impact at all on me. I can't help but look, at both men and women, as they pass me by, but I do exactly the same with clothed people - it just takes longer to get to their face when they're nude - and, strange as it may seem, I find a lounging male with a soft cock, a huge turn on.

 

[THROBBS]

I don't think it's a big deal, not really. Whatever you're comfortable with, ya know?

hmmmm.. that sounds like you pat answer I bet you can come up with a more thoughtful one.

 

[THROBBS]

The Swiss are about to start fining anyone who they catch backpacking in the nude. Sigh

sounds dumb. But with my experiences backpacking in MIchigan... HA I wouldn't want to invite the mosquitos and black flies to any MORE sq. inches.

As far as I am concerned.if I know there is a possibility of nude hikers.I am ok with that.

 

[THROBBS]

I think I understood your use of the pharse 'big deal'. It would be a shame to reach a point when nudity really was 'no big deal'. My husband, who has seen me naked from just about every angle, never fails to comment when he catches a glimpse of the small of my back as I bend over.

I have no problems with nudity, and have spent many a balmy summer day around nudist beaches, but I would hate for the naked body to have no impact at all on me. I can't help but look, at both men and women, as they pass me by, but I do exactly the same with clothed people - it just takes longer to get to their face when they're nude - and, strange as it may seem, I find a lounging male with a soft cock, a huge turn on.

ah.... well I suppose I will have to agree with you, because your response mirrors mine. LOL

 

[dr_mabeuse]

What's the big deal you're talking about? That it's aesthetic?That it's erotic? That it's non-conformist? That it's voyeuristically titillating?

If it's that it's aesthetic, I'd think you'd want to see more of it. Same thing for erotic, although I don't find nudity erotic at all. Eroticism is really a matter of context, a matter of the person's attitude and position. To me, a partially-clothed body is more erotic than a stark-naked one.

Non-conformism I could see, but I hardly think that's a big deal, which leaves voyeurism, the excitement of seeing someone's body revealed. I guess I could get off on that if I found nudity erotic per se, but voyeurism has never been a big fetish of mine.

So basically, nudity doesn't do much for me. I'm not one of those people who finds all bodies beautiful. In fact, I find most of them kind of unsavory, better to touch than to look at generally, so nudity isn't a big deal to me. I can take it or leave it.

ETA: It's not so much about the rightness or wrongness, it's the awkwardness. Going nude makes other people feel so awkward. What do you say to a nude person? "Oh! You're naked! Hey! Nice dick!" or "Gee, your ass doesn't look so big with your clothes on."

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

DOC

The whole issue is absurd because nudity requires the cooperation of Mother Nature, and she rarely gives a rats ass about making things ideal for the exhibitionist. Your bare ass will stick to a frozen pipe as quick as your tongue will.

 

[Guest]

those muscles on a guy that V into the top of his jeans

that curve on the back of a woman

the inner curves of a woman's breasts

a well hung pair of wrangles on a man

the swell of a pregnant woman's belly

the bits and pieces of skin that peek out

the lingerie industry even in a recession STILL makes money

I like the human body

 

[THROBBS]

What's the big deal you're talking about? That it's aesthetic?That it's erotic? That it's non-conformist? That it's voyeuristically titillating?

If it's that it's aesthetic, I'd think you'd want to see more of it. Same thing for erotic, although I don't find nudity erotic at all. Eroticism is really a matter of context, a matter of the person's attitude and position. To me, a partially-clothed body is more erotic than a stark-naked one.

Non-conformism I could see, but I hardly think that's a big deal, which leaves voyeurism, the excitement of seeing someone's body revealed. I guess I could get off on that if I found nudity erotic per se, but voyeurism has never been a big fetish of mine.

So basically, nudity doesn't do much for me. I'm not one of those people who finds all bodies beautiful. In fact, I find most of them kind of unsavory, better to touch than to look at generally, so nudity isn't a big deal to me. I can take it or leave it.

ETA: It's not so much about the rightness or wrongness, it's the awkwardness. Going nude makes other people feel so awkward. What do you say to a nude person? "Oh! You're naked! Hey! Nice dick!" or "Gee, your ass doesn't look so big with your clothes on."

Sure.... I understand that nudity doe snot appeal to MANY people. Especially in just any context. I do find MOST bodies beautiful in some respect... but not necessarily "appealing" or "arousing" . I am one who is turned on by voyeurism. I Do want to see more of it, but at the same time I appreciate people's varying levels of sensitivity and in no way would want to subject people to that.

 

[THROBBS]

(The Ignore function HAS proved useful. In case there had, uncharacteristically, been a thoughtful post, I undid the ignore....... back on)

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SCHINDLER'S LIST makes a good point about nudity. Naked people often look crazy and bizarre.

 

[THROBBS]

heeeeheeeeee

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

Nudity is interesting to me in a metaphorical sense mostly. When I think of nakedness, I think of innocence...of stripping bare to your essence and showing who you really are without all the pretenses. I think of the beauty of a child whose nakedness is not a sin or a disgrace or a thing of shame, but rather something natural and good and right. When thought of in that light, I find nakedness to be wonderful and fine. But, with most adults, nudity becomes a thing of shame and even when we do take off our clothes, we still find ways to let our hang-ups cloud the innocent naturalness of it.

 

[THROBBS]

Nudity is interesting to me in a metaphorical sense mostly. When I think of nakedness, I think of innocence...of stripping bare to your essence and showing who you really are without all the pretenses. I think of the beauty of a child whose nakedness is not a sin or a disgrace or a thing of shame, but rather something natural and good and right. When thought of in that light, I find nakedness to be wonderful and fine. But, with most adults, nudity becomes a thing of shame and even when we do take off our clothes, we still find ways to let our hang-ups cloud the innocent naturalness of it.

interesting! (nearly biblical )

There truly IS the baring of one's "self" when one bares one's self.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Nudity is interesting to me in a metaphorical sense mostly. When I think of nakedness, I think of innocence...of stripping bare to your essence and showing who you really are without all the pretenses. I think of the beauty of a child whose nakedness is not a sin or a disgrace or a thing of shame, but rather something natural and good and right. When thought of in that light, I find nakedness to be wonderful and fine. But, with most adults, nudity becomes a thing of shame and even when we do take off our clothes, we still find ways to let our hang-ups cloud the innocent naturalness of it.

See, I think the idea that our bodies tell who we really are is one of those unfortunate ideas we've been trying so hard to get away from in this culture for the last 100 years or so. According to that, the only worthwhile people are those of us who are thin, young, and beautiful.

 

[lesbiaphrodite]

See, I think the idea that our bodies tell who we really are is one of those unfortunate ideas we've been trying so hard to get away from in this culture for the last 100 years or so. According to that, the only worthwhile people are those of us who are thin, young, and beautiful.

I understand what you're saying, but I think we overestimate our importance in the scheme of things when we start thinking that our naked bodies are so special. The only reason I think the human form is lovely in its naked, innocent state is because it represents a stripping away of socialization. I am no proponent of thin, young, beautiful people's bodies being the only types of beautiful nudes. Quite the contrary.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

God invented clothes to spare the eyes of your friends and family, plus increase the odds for you getting a date.

 

[THROBBS]

See, I think the idea that our bodies tell who we really are is one of those unfortunate ideas we've been trying so hard to get away from in this culture for the last 100 years or so. According to that, the only worthwhile people are those of us who are thin, young, and beautiful.

Our bodies are an aspect of who we are...including our culturally distorted self view. And what you just said kind of perpetuates that... If I am fat and wrinkly... that IS what my shell is... it is not a value judgement. The beauty of the nudity is the humanity the empathy that comes from exposing and seeing those imperfections that make us more humble... or shy.. or critical... or whatever.

This is aside from the sexuality the titillation that comes along with nudity (for some of us some of the time).

I understand what you're saying, but I think we overestimate our importance in the scheme of things when we start thinking that our naked bodies are so special. The only reason I think the human form is lovely in its naked, innocent state is because it represents a stripping away of socialization. I am no proponent of thin, young, beautiful people's bodies being the only types of beautiful nudes. Quite the contrary.

My view is that there IS something "special" about or naked bodies. Each is unique to us. I feel what you say is true about the "stripping away of socialization"...but I also know there is something primal about the desire I feel for some/many...? naked women. It is unfortunate that we (I) are (am) conditioned (programed?) that way at all... It would be a "nicer" world if we would all see beyond superficialities. We don't. ( I try )