Is it true for me to say that any supporter of Sharon...
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You so funny!
That pp. Such a rascal.
That pp. Such a rascal.
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I apologize. I was wrong.
A supporter of Sharon would most likely be Jockey. Possibly another brand, but Sharon buys his supporters at TJ Maxx. At 50% off retail (you know how those people only buy at a discount).
A supporter of Sharon would most likely be Jockey. Possibly another brand, but Sharon buys his supporters at TJ Maxx. At 50% off retail (you know how those people only buy at a discount).
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Stroke...inflate? Does this mean you want to blow me?
Chowder head?
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Stroke...inflate? Does this mean you want to blow me?
Chowder head?
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Re: Re: Is it true for me to say that any supporter of Sharon...
Then we come down to numbers.
Is the support of Arafat and suicide bombers, who are using the only weapons at their disposal and are killing dozens of Israelis, the same as the support of Sharon with his policy of killing or expelling 750,000 Palestinians?
Or is it a case of 10 deaths is a tragedy but 100,000 deaths is a statistic.
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Then we come down to numbers.
Is the support of Arafat and suicide bombers, who are using the only weapons at their disposal and are killing dozens of Israelis, the same as the support of Sharon with his policy of killing or expelling 750,000 Palestinians?
Or is it a case of 10 deaths is a tragedy but 100,000 deaths is a statistic.
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Get over it already. Remember when the Palastinians were evicted from Jordan? How many 1000s of Palastinians were butcherd by the Jordanian Army? And why were they evicted? Because your boy Arafat was causing trouble.Hell even other Arabs dont want the Palastinians around. Why is that?p_p_man said:
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Re: Re: Re: Is it true for me to say that any supporter of Sharon...
Find me some supportable, independently verified numbers and we can argue, p_p_man.
And don't forget to add in some 3200+ Americans dead in the WTC and the Pentagon while you're at it. That debit accrues to the detriment of the Palestinian side--their deaths certainly a result of that conflict in some part. Not to mention the number killed in Europe as a result of pro-Palestinian terrorism over the years.
Face it man. At this point it would make more sense to give Sharon and Arafat each a club, shove them otherwise naked into an empty room, and tell them they have a choice, either the winner takes all or the two can come to an equitable agreement. Then lock them in for at least 72 hours--and not let them out until they beg to be let out.
Pissing and moaning about who's "more wrong" at this point is nothing more than an intellectual exercise.
p_p_man said:
Then we come down to numbers.
Is the support of Arafat and suicide bombers, who are using the only weapons at their disposal and are killing dozens of Israelis, the same as the support of Sharon with his policy of killing or expelling 750,000 Paklestinians?
Or is it a caseof 10 deaths is a tragedy but 100,000 deaths is a statistic.
Find me some supportable, independently verified numbers and we can argue, p_p_man.
And don't forget to add in some 3200+ Americans dead in the WTC and the Pentagon while you're at it. That debit accrues to the detriment of the Palestinian side--their deaths certainly a result of that conflict in some part. Not to mention the number killed in Europe as a result of pro-Palestinian terrorism over the years.
Face it man. At this point it would make more sense to give Sharon and Arafat each a club, shove them otherwise naked into an empty room, and tell them they have a choice, either the winner takes all or the two can come to an equitable agreement. Then lock them in for at least 72 hours--and not let them out until they beg to be let out.
Pissing and moaning about who's "more wrong" at this point is nothing more than an intellectual exercise.
Sharon Bashing...............
PP-Man---On September 11, 2001 nineteen ARAB hi jackers brought down the World Trade Center killing almost 3,000 people.
Not one of those Al Qaeda boys were Israeli.It's very plain to me who the enemy is and it sure as hell isn't Ariel Sharon and the Israelis..Arafat is a known terrorist and Sharon should kill the little , ugly bastard while he has the chance..
We're getting ready to kick Saddam's ass very soon now and I'm sure you'll side with him..Thank God all Limeys aren't like you...
PP-Man---On September 11, 2001 nineteen ARAB hi jackers brought down the World Trade Center killing almost 3,000 people.
Not one of those Al Qaeda boys were Israeli.It's very plain to me who the enemy is and it sure as hell isn't Ariel Sharon and the Israelis..Arafat is a known terrorist and Sharon should kill the little , ugly bastard while he has the chance..
We're getting ready to kick Saddam's ass very soon now and I'm sure you'll side with him..Thank God all Limeys aren't like you...
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Sometimes you've gotta despair at some of the posters on this board...
Sharon's policy, as is the the policy of Zionists everywhere, is the extermination or the expulsion of the Palestinian people.
I asked a simple question to bring that simple fact to light. In other words if you support Sharon do you support genocide.
And look at the replies coming through...
Jabo 69: On September 11, 2001 nineteen ARAB hi jackers brought down the World Trade Center killing almost 3,000 people.
Not one of those Al Qaeda boys were Israeli.
Does Jabo69 known the policy of the Zionists? Or is he just giving a knee jerk reply to something completely unrelated to Sharon's genocide policy because he feels he must?
paphian: And don't forget to add in some 3200+ Americans dead in the WTC and the Pentagon while you're at it. That debit accrues to the detriment of the Palestinian side--their deaths certainly a result of that conflict in some part. Not to mention the number killed in Europe as a result of pro-Palestinian terrorism over the years.
Notice there's not a mention of the massacre of Beirut by the Beast of Beirut. And again what the WTC has to do with it I have no idea, unless paphian is recalling bin Laden's passing refernce to Palestine, in one of those many videos that were conveniently discovered.
Unless paphian is saying. Kill one of us and your whole race is dead. Isn't that Le Penn's old mates the Nazis way of doing things?
bored1: Get over it already. Remember when the Palastinians were evicted from Jordan? How many 1000s of Palastinians were butcherd by the Jordanian Army?
The best I've left until last. So bored1 is now saying it's alright to go into the occupied territories and massacre as many Palestinians as possible because the Jordanians have already killed thousands. And if someone else can do it so can Sharon.
Is it small wonder that I sometimes read posts on this Board and I think that a lot of you are still at High School?
ppman
Sharon's policy, as is the the policy of Zionists everywhere, is the extermination or the expulsion of the Palestinian people.
I asked a simple question to bring that simple fact to light. In other words if you support Sharon do you support genocide.
And look at the replies coming through...
Jabo 69: On September 11, 2001 nineteen ARAB hi jackers brought down the World Trade Center killing almost 3,000 people.
Not one of those Al Qaeda boys were Israeli.
Does Jabo69 known the policy of the Zionists? Or is he just giving a knee jerk reply to something completely unrelated to Sharon's genocide policy because he feels he must?
paphian: And don't forget to add in some 3200+ Americans dead in the WTC and the Pentagon while you're at it. That debit accrues to the detriment of the Palestinian side--their deaths certainly a result of that conflict in some part. Not to mention the number killed in Europe as a result of pro-Palestinian terrorism over the years.
Notice there's not a mention of the massacre of Beirut by the Beast of Beirut. And again what the WTC has to do with it I have no idea, unless paphian is recalling bin Laden's passing refernce to Palestine, in one of those many videos that were conveniently discovered.
Unless paphian is saying. Kill one of us and your whole race is dead. Isn't that Le Penn's old mates the Nazis way of doing things?
bored1: Get over it already. Remember when the Palastinians were evicted from Jordan? How many 1000s of Palastinians were butcherd by the Jordanian Army?
The best I've left until last. So bored1 is now saying it's alright to go into the occupied territories and massacre as many Palestinians as possible because the Jordanians have already killed thousands. And if someone else can do it so can Sharon.
Is it small wonder that I sometimes read posts on this Board and I think that a lot of you are still at High School?
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You really are a [edited].
It would be truer to say the British are like children putting wasps and spiders into a jar, shaking the jar, giggling at the angry combatants, hoping one will dramtically off the other.
And so you see, yet once again, America, the ugly stepchild, must come in and attempt to put everything right while the ugly stepmother goes about criticizing every little move we make.
So if it’s mass murder and genocide which appall you so terribly, then you best get to the sink and wash your hands. They’re bloody…
It would be truer to say the British are like children putting wasps and spiders into a jar, shaking the jar, giggling at the angry combatants, hoping one will dramtically off the other.
And so you see, yet once again, America, the ugly stepchild, must come in and attempt to put everything right while the ugly stepmother goes about criticizing every little move we make.
So if it’s mass murder and genocide which appall you so terribly, then you best get to the sink and wash your hands. They’re bloody…
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Just a minute! p_p_man does not speak for Britain. I and many others are quite capable of speaking for ourselves and putting our own spin on what we read.
Arafat leads a people whose avowed intention is to destroy the state of Israel. Israel has, in my humble opinion, every right to exist and to deter those who would destroy it.
A pox on the house of those who would destroy Israel!
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Sorry Blues,
I tend to use scatter shot when I'm hunting p_p_...
I tend to use scatter shot when I'm hunting p_p_...
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Re: Re: Is it true for me to say that any supporter of Sharon...
Sharon serves at the behest of the Knesset. He was elected by a fragile coalition of parties. One small change in the tide of Isreali politics (the voters) will see the collapse of the Sharon government. That means that Sharon serves at the sufference of the people of Isreal.
Arafat will serve until he's assasinated, or dies of natural causes.
The difference between the two men and their relationship to the people they represent are profound.
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paphian said:
Sharon serves at the behest of the Knesset. He was elected by a fragile coalition of parties. One small change in the tide of Isreali politics (the voters) will see the collapse of the Sharon government. That means that Sharon serves at the sufference of the people of Isreal.
Arafat will serve until he's assasinated, or dies of natural causes.
The difference between the two men and their relationship to the people they represent are profound.
Ishmael
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I take it you're referring to this famous PLO Charter which keeps getting trotted out as policy.
It is as you say, an 'avowed intention'.
A Notice of Intent.
Any trade unionist will tell you that notices of intent are just a way of saying what they would like to happen.
Not what necessarily will.
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If anyone else but p_p_man had posted this original comment would we have a valid debate rather than this knee jerk reaction?
I like to think yes, but suspect not.
I think p_p_man has made a very valid point - recently the whole Swedish (I think) government resigned in shame because their troops stood by and, by default, allowed ethnic cleansing in the Balkans. Surely this murder of Palestinians - just for being Palestinians - is ethnic cleansing on a similar scale!
Why is Isreal not being dealt with more harshly by the rest of the world?
I like to think yes, but suspect not.
I think p_p_man has made a very valid point - recently the whole Swedish (I think) government resigned in shame because their troops stood by and, by default, allowed ethnic cleansing in the Balkans. Surely this murder of Palestinians - just for being Palestinians - is ethnic cleansing on a similar scale!
Why is Isreal not being dealt with more harshly by the rest of the world?
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Ishmael said:
You'll have to explain that one.
You mean the land that Israel has invaded and is now occupying?
So if the PLO scrub their Notice of Intent then Israel will give them their own land back.
How does that tie in with Sharon's genocidal policiy?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Is it true for me to say that any supporter of Sharon...
A leap of inductive logic on your part pp.
You know as well as I that should Isreal go about this 'genocidal' spree that you keep ranting about that the death toll would be in the ten's of thousand's if not the hundred's of thousand's.
Reality does not substantiate your allegations.
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A leap of inductive logic on your part pp.
You know as well as I that should Isreal go about this 'genocidal' spree that you keep ranting about that the death toll would be in the ten's of thousand's if not the hundred's of thousand's.
Reality does not substantiate your allegations.
Ishmael
